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Tim S · 8th May 2007, 18:27

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/05...roved_hotmail/

MrWillyWonka · 8th May 2007, 18:32

Meh, I'll stick with Gmail and its better spam control and ease of use.

Nice to see that I'll be able view my dodgy emails (which I use hotmail for) a bit more easily though. About time MS actually updated hotmail, its so long overdue.

devdevil85 · 8th May 2007, 18:44

Yeah I switched to gmail. So much nicer and more professional and the spam control is so much better. I just use my hotmail account for spam crap and other random emails, but not my friends and family. I also agree, Hotmail really needed an update cause it still ain't hip. I basically switched because Outlook was soooooooo slow and half the time it would lose it connection with the Hotmail Server which I found to be ridiculous and it always kept asking me to archive my files which still didn't help anything.

rowin4kicks · 8th May 2007, 18:48

still on hotmail myself but just cant be bothered to change over and everything so allow!

Lazlow · 8th May 2007, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Article

This will replace Outlook Express on Windows XP and Windows Mail on Vista.

Hoorah! I was astounded to find that Windows Mail on Vista didn't support Hotmail! It was very odd to find that Microsoft didn't support their email via their latest o/s.

moshpit · 8th May 2007, 19:41

I love hotmail. Had my account since 98. Matter of fact, my account is coming up on it's first decade of use. Too many friends, family, and coworkers have my hotmail address to change it now.

olly_lewis · 8th May 2007, 19:44

I was once a Hotmail user... well I still am but all my important mail goes through Gmail and by moving everything back to Hotmail, Live, or whatevah would just be a waste of time... I just can't remove the bad, bad memory of only having 2Mb of storage with sleazy Hotmail...

moshpit · 8th May 2007, 19:51

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Originally Posted by olly_lewis

I was once a Hotmail user... well I still am but all my important mail goes through Gmail and by moving everything back to Hotmail, Live, or whatevah would just be a waste of time... I just can't remove the bad, bad memory of only having 2Mb of storage with sleazy Hotmail...

Yeah, that's a bummer you can't get that memory out too. We're now getting 2Gb for our patience, a 1000x increase and comparable at least to gmail now

DreamTheEndless · 8th May 2007, 20:12

yawn....

Bauul · 8th May 2007, 20:16

I used Live mail for a while in place of my Hotmail (which, like everyone else, I use for all the crap emails and spam stuff, where as gmail is my 'proper' email address), and stopped after a while. Why? It was the buggiest, slowest, most ill thought out web mail browser I've ever used. Hell my old Unix based University mail browser was more user friendly. It took ages to load, stalled all the time, I regularly had to empty my cookies just to get the damn thing to work, just gave up after a while and went back to Hotmail, MUCH better. I'm loathed to try it now it's supposed to be out of beta in case I can't switch back.

koola · 9th May 2007, 00:26

Gmail user here. Stoped using the hotmail due to the joke of a spam filter and all the ads.

DougEdey · 9th May 2007, 08:27

I've been using live for a while, I find it very sluggish.

I also agree with koola. Gmail is superior for my needs, but I use it alongside two other core email addresses using Thunderbird.

bilbothebaggins · 9th May 2007, 08:43

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(...), is Hotmail still hip?

Wait. When was Hotmail ever hip? Did I miss something?

BioSniper · 9th May 2007, 08:54

I've been beta testing this for ages and the trouble with it is that the interface is far too slow compared with the likes of gmail but it's not bad, I guess it'll be alright for the average user that doesn't really care about speed.

kempez · 9th May 2007, 10:19

I switched it to simple interface and still use Live mail - very fast and quite nice

My hotmail only ever gets used for stuff I know I'll get spam anyway

Blademrk · 9th May 2007, 10:41

I've got 4 email accounts: The email I use for all my forum mails is with my old ISP FSNet, 1 is with my current ISP Pipex (which I don't use at all), my ~~Hotmail~~ Live account (main account) and my Gmail account (signed up about a month or two back to see what it's like).

My hotmail account is coming up to it's tenth year, and I've been using the Windows Live beta and the Live desktop client beta (although in the last month or two it's stopped recognizing my hotmail account for some reason :{).

I like it (although I have found it a bit slow, but I had put that down to my net connection) but it doesn't seem to like Firefox much - If I open an email in firefox I get lines accross the screen as I scroll through emails (no problem in IE). and I've seen this same problem on both my PC's

In the 10 years I've used it, I've recieved very little spam (In fact the only phishing email I've ever recieved was on my Gmail account about 2 days after I opened it :/ before I'd even used it for anything).

Tim S · 9th May 2007, 10:48

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Originally Posted by bilbothebaggins

Wait. When was Hotmail ever hip? Did I miss something?

Well, 280 million people still think so

dullonien · 9th May 2007, 11:33

I opened my holtmail account in 98. It has been an excellent account and I will never change if I can help it.

I get a few e-mails a day: a newsletter from an online shop I've regestered with, an e-mail from Bit saying a thread has been updated, Facebook telling me someones 'tagged' me in a picture.

I get absolutely no spam mail. Not sure why! I use my account when I sign up for new accounts etc. I do make sure I read everyhting carefully and tick/untick boxes that say about sending me e-mails or giving my e-mail address to third parties.

My gut feeling about why I don't receve junk is due to my e-mail address itself, it's quite an odd one that originated from a nickname one of my friends called me in school. It's not just the simple Foremane_SirmaneNumber@ kinda thing that proberly gets randomly generated by the people sending the spam.

monkeyville · 9th May 2007, 13:15

I've been accessing Hotmail via pop3 for years. Haven't been on the web interface for eons

Blademrk · 9th May 2007, 13:28

As long as the acount was created before 2004 (I think it was) you can access it by webdev, if the account was created after that though your out of luck unless you use the Subscription version.

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Originally Posted by wiki

Access from mail clients
MSN accounts once had POP3 email access but they sold their POP3 servers to Qwest in favor of HTML servers.

It is in principle possible to check one's own e-mail using the WebDAV protocol (an extension of HTTP), using Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express on PC, Microsoft Entourage on Mac, or an extension for Mozilla Thunderbird.[6] But while this service was free for a number of years, Microsoft announced on September 27, 2004 that they were making it a subscription-only service for new users immediately and existing users from April 2005. However, some (not all) existing users are still able to access their Hotmail accounts via this protocol for free as of April 2007. It is unclear if or when Microsoft will revoke this feature as many users rely on this function.

It should be noted that Windows Mail, Outlook Express' successor, no longer supports HTML email access. Users can get around this restriction however, by using software that simulates a POP server to which the e-mail application connects.

It is possible for account holders of Hotmail to check their email through Windows Live Mail Desktop.

seems ours were one of the lucky ones who didn't get the outlook access revoked in 2005.

8th May 2007, 18:27	#1
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8th May 2007, 18:32	#2
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8th May 2007, 19:41	#6
moshpit Minimodder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 48	I love hotmail. Had my account since 98. Matter of fact, my account is coming up on it's first decade of use. Too many friends, family, and coworkers have my hotmail address to change it now. Last edited by moshpit; 8th May 2007 at 19:50.

8th May 2007, 19:44	#7
olly_lewis Hypermodder Join Date: May 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 756	I was once a Hotmail user... well I still am but all my important mail goes through Gmail and by moving everything back to Hotmail, Live, or whatevah would just be a waste of time... I just can't remove the bad, bad memory of only having 2Mb of storage with sleazy Hotmail... __________________ My signature dumped me... ___________

8th May 2007, 18:44	#3
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	Yeah I switched to gmail. So much nicer and more professional and the spam control is so much better. I just use my hotmail account for spam crap and other random emails, but not my friends and family. I also agree, Hotmail really needed an update cause it still ain't hip. I basically switched because Outlook was soooooooo slow and half the time it would lose it connection with the Hotmail Server which I found to be ridiculous and it always kept asking me to archive my files which still didn't help anything.

8th May 2007, 20:12	#9
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8th May 2007, 20:16	#10
Bauul Sir Bongaminge Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Godalming, near Guildford Posts: 1,553	I used Live mail for a while in place of my Hotmail (which, like everyone else, I use for all the crap emails and spam stuff, where as gmail is my 'proper' email address), and stopped after a while. Why? It was the buggiest, slowest, most ill thought out web mail browser I've ever used. Hell my old Unix based University mail browser was more user friendly. It took ages to load, stalled all the time, I regularly had to empty my cookies just to get the damn thing to work, just gave up after a while and went back to Hotmail, MUCH better. I'm loathed to try it now it's supposed to be out of beta in case I can't switch back.

9th May 2007, 00:26	#11
koola Eat my... Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 2,210	Gmail user here. Stoped using the hotmail due to the joke of a spam filter and all the ads. __________________ PSN: koola-uk

9th May 2007, 08:27	#12
DougEdey I pwn all your storage Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 13,933	I've been using live for a while, I find it very sluggish. I also agree with koola. Gmail is superior for my needs, but I use it alongside two other core email addresses using Thunderbird. __________________ Burnout: Paradise Stats!XBL: DougEdey Bindi PSN ID: DougEdey Twitter

9th May 2007, 08:54	#14
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9th May 2007, 10:19	#15
kempez modding again! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,102	I switched it to simple interface and still use Live mail - very fast and quite nice My hotmail only ever gets used for stuff I know I'll get spam anyway __________________ I don't like streets of rage - make fun of me! My Main PC: Intel Q6600 D0 @ 3.6GHz \| abit IP35 Pro \| 8gb OCZ ReaperX PC6400 @ 1000MHz \| MSI 8800GTX \| OS Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 250gb \| Tagan 1100w \| Silverstone TJ09S \| Noctua NH-U12P Project Aqua Vitae Project <<\| Black3d \|>>

9th May 2007, 10:41	#16
Blademrk Why so serious? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Here Posts: 2,342	I've got 4 email accounts: The email I use for all my forum mails is with my old ISP FSNet, 1 is with my current ISP Pipex (which I don't use at all), my ~~Hotmail~~ Live account (main account) and my Gmail account (signed up about a month or two back to see what it's like). My hotmail account is coming up to it's tenth year, and I've been using the Windows Live beta and the Live desktop client beta (although in the last month or two it's stopped recognizing my hotmail account for some reason :{). I like it (although I have found it a bit slow, but I had put that down to my net connection) but it doesn't seem to like Firefox much - If I open an email in firefox I get lines accross the screen as I scroll through emails (no problem in IE). and I've seen this same problem on both my PC's In the 10 years I've used it, I've recieved very little spam (In fact the only phishing email I've ever recieved was on my Gmail account about 2 days after I opened it :/ before I'd even used it for anything). __________________ The Bit-Tech.net X-Box Live! Leaderboard My X-Box Live & X-Fire GamerTag: BladeMRK WII#: 0379 8536 3210 2060 My Flikr albums Twitter

9th May 2007, 11:33	#18
dullonien Master of the unfinished. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lincoln, UK. Posts: 311	I opened my holtmail account in 98. It has been an excellent account and I will never change if I can help it. I get a few e-mails a day: a newsletter from an online shop I've regestered with, an e-mail from Bit saying a thread has been updated, Facebook telling me someones 'tagged' me in a picture. I get absolutely no spam mail. Not sure why! I use my account when I sign up for new accounts etc. I do make sure I read everyhting carefully and tick/untick boxes that say about sending me e-mails or giving my e-mail address to third parties. My gut feeling about why I don't receve junk is due to my e-mail address itself, it's quite an odd one that originated from a nickname one of my friends called me in school. It's not just the simple Foremane_SirmaneNumber@ kinda thing that proberly gets randomly generated by the people sending the spam. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @ 3.0GHz, Abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD (uATX), 4GB Corsair XMS2-6400C4, Sapphire HD4870 Vapour-X 1GB, Hiper 580W Type R, 4.1TB of Seagate Storage, Antec 300 + Lian-Li V300 (Lian-Li to be modded shortly).

9th May 2007, 13:15	#19
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