Sony to change the PS3 controller? - bit-tech.net Forums

Bindibadgi · 15th Jun 2007, 11:39

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06...3_controller/1

Insider information indicates Sony will re-incorporate force feedback into the SixAxis controller once it has figured out how.

DougEdey · 15th Jun 2007, 11:41

Kinda was hinted at by Logitech when they announced their PS3 controller with Rumble.

firefly · 15th Jun 2007, 12:09

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"Officially, the corporate line is still "no comment". Unofficially, Sony is facing some difficulties with battery life; i.e. Between the rumble and the wireless support, the batteries are draining too fast to be acceptable for consumers."

Well.. just wire the damn thing and get it out already!

I can't say there's ever been a situation where I've thought "God, I wish this controller was wireless". Running out of juice during my l33t gaming sessions is just not an option. The only exception to this rule being the Wii controller which jus flat out would not work with wires.

Can't see what Sony are procrastinating about here really, are people so hooked on wireless now that it would seem like a cop-out on Sonys part?

Veles · 15th Jun 2007, 12:25

I think sony are realising they half baked their cake, but unfortunately lots of people have already taken a slice.

DXR_13KE · 15th Jun 2007, 12:26

what is the battery duration on a wiimote? if the trend is to to go wireless then sony cant go wired.

rupbert · 15th Jun 2007, 12:27

The problem many people would have is going from wirelss to wired, personally I can't stand using either my PS3 or 360 controller whilst it is being charged...

The battery life is going to be a serious issue though, so perhaps wired is the only option (unless they use a much larger battery).

mikeuk2004 · 15th Jun 2007, 12:31

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though we imagine PS3 owners must have deeper pockets than most gamers anyway.

just because the game console is £360 does not mean the people who have it have deep pockets, because someone with an expensive item does not mean they are rich. They may have saved for a long time for it.

Anyway about time too. Got to have rumble to enjoy formula 1

I hope rumble and a feedback wheel is out in time for the next formula 1 as I plan on getting a PS3 at xmas and dont want to have to buy new joypads and chuck the standard one.

CardJoe · 15th Jun 2007, 12:34

They should just package a docking station and leave it wireless, or wire it. Doesn't make a difference to me.

[stuart] · 15th Jun 2007, 15:56

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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

what is the battery duration on a wiimote?

I got roughly 40 hours of play during my 2 day Twilight Princess binge and this was with the cheapo no name AA batteries that come with the Wiimote.

If Nintendo can manage rumble, motion sensing and the little speaker, surely Sony can get two of the three in.

LVMike · 15th Jun 2007, 17:20

But i think the problem as sony stated is how the sixaxis senses motion with the accelerometer vs the infrared of the wii mote. It is a problem that could be fixed but will it?

I would like to know how they intend to run rumble off of the 3.3V( if i remember right) that their LI-poly battery gives them. That battery cant have that much capacity

devdevil85 · 15th Jun 2007, 18:16

Man, about time they think about coming out with rumble. I knew of Logitech's rumble controller. In all honesty, wired sucks. Wireless is so much better in terms of hand and body placement since there's no wire there to hold you back. Another good thing: No tripping/liability claims!

DXR_13KE · 15th Jun 2007, 22:41

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Originally Posted by LVMike

But i think the problem as sony stated is how the sixaxis senses motion with the accelerometer vs the infrared of the wii mote.

notice that the wiimote has accelerometers and rumble.

L2wis · 15th Jun 2007, 23:44

wii remote has got it locked down

im sure sony will figure something out! Maybe this will speed along the manufactoring of uranium fuel cells? Or better yet! Make it so u have to fill it with sugar hahaha!

Neogumbercules · 16th Jun 2007, 00:31

I'd like the addition of rumble. I don't care if the controller is wired as long as its long enough, and Sony has always been generous with cable length. Nintendo, on the other hand, always bugged me with their gamecube controllers having like a 3 inch cord.

If they can make the controller last 5 hours before having to be charged, that would be more than enough for me. Thats enough for 2-3 play sessions for me and I can just plug it in when I'm done.

And I'm still waiting on Nintendo to release an official rechargeable battery pack for their Wii-mote. The third party ones are all terrible.

Colonel Sanders · 16th Jun 2007, 03:10

Rumble is nice, but I don't consider it too important. Wireless is cool, but I hate worrying about batteries, and I've never had much trouble with wired controllers.

Personally, I would probbably buy a wired PS3 controller with rumble and six-axis even if there was a wireless option, I simply hate worrying about batteries.

L J

DXR_13KE · 16th Jun 2007, 22:46

but wireless is the future

CollinstheClown · 16th Jun 2007, 23:05

I'd laugh if they brought back the old version...

-CollinstheClown

mikeuk2004 · 17th Jun 2007, 00:57

I hate the position of the analogue sticks. I mean they make it so you must use them in most games so why is there still the dpad in the place where it feel more comfortable to have the analogue stick. Microsoft had got it right, I love MS 360 pads and the original xbox pad. I would also prefer the second stick where the buttons are and arch the buttons around the stick. Id think that would feel much better.

Sonys position of both sticks gives me cramp as its not natural or comfortable. They need to sort it out. What seems to be a temp fix on the Ps1 as been made fixed. I mean when the sticks came out for PS1 most games used the D-pad and not many games used the sticks so there position was out of the way and not to effect the normal play with the d-pad. PS2 used the same pad which I thought was stupid because most games were made to use the sticks and they should have replaced the d-pad then. I think they are even more stupid to use the same setup a third time. Let hope for a complete re-design.

Colonel Sanders · 17th Jun 2007, 04:36

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Originally Posted by mikeuk2004

I hate the position of the analogue sticks. I mean they make it so you must use them in most games so why is there still the dpad in the place where it feel more comfortable to have the analogue stick. Microsoft had got it right, I love MS 360 pads and the original xbox pad. I would also prefer the second stick where the buttons are and arch the buttons around the stick. Id think that would feel much better.

Sonys position of both sticks gives me cramp as its not natural or comfortable. They need to sort it out. What seems to be a temp fix on the Ps1 as been made fixed. I mean when the sticks came out for PS1 most games used the D-pad and not many games used the sticks so there position was out of the way and not to effect the normal play with the d-pad. PS2 used the same pad which I thought was stupid because most games were made to use the sticks and they should have replaced the d-pad then. I think they are even more stupid to use the same setup a third time. Let hope for a complete re-design.

You must not use a Playstation controller very much. Especially after playing GTA San Andreas - I abesolutely love the layout of the Playstation Controller better than any other console. *disclaimer - the Wii mote is in a different class than every other controller, but I still dispise it as I believe it is the sole reason Nintendo is shipping any Wii's. I always hated the X-Box controller for the "triggers" - all I see in triggers are a lot of slack before the thing starts to respond (just like a lot of the buttons on the GC controller). I think it is wrong to place the stick in in the "upper left" (ie GC X-Box) because that is easier to access, BUT the stick does not require "easy access" - I mean all you have to do is tilt the little thing. D-Pads are more of a challenge with 4 little buttons to push (BTW the GC d-pad is the most useless thing to ever be placed on a controller. . .). Plus, I hardly find the playstation analog stick hard to reach, I kinda think it's more comfortable in it's "odd" position.

L J

completemadness · 17th Jun 2007, 14:59

the only problem with the PlayStation controller for me is its a bit small, some of the custom controllers are much more ergonomic, and fit your hands a lot better
Other then that, although it seems a bit odd, everything on the PS controller is at your fingertips

15th Jun 2007, 11:39	#1
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15th Jun 2007, 11:41	#2
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DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,469	what is the battery duration on a wiimote? if the trend is to to go wireless then sony cant go wired. __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

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L2wis Hypermodder Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 659	wii remote has got it locked down im sure sony will figure something out! Maybe this will speed along the manufactoring of uranium fuel cells? Or better yet! Make it so u have to fill it with sugar hahaha! __________________ Lewis Wells Get Firefox! \| Get Thunderbird! \| Join Bit-tech folding@home

15th Jun 2007, 12:27	#6
rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	The problem many people would have is going from wirelss to wired, personally I can't stand using either my PS3 or 360 controller whilst it is being charged... The battery life is going to be a serious issue though, so perhaps wired is the only option (unless they use a much larger battery).

15th Jun 2007, 17:20	#10
LVMike Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Las Vegas NV & Rolla MO Posts: 412	But i think the problem as sony stated is how the sixaxis senses motion with the accelerometer vs the infrared of the wii mote. It is a problem that could be fixed but will it? I would like to know how they intend to run rumble off of the 3.3V( if i remember right) that their LI-poly battery gives them. That battery cant have that much capacity

15th Jun 2007, 18:16	#11
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	Man, about time they think about coming out with rumble. I knew of Logitech's rumble controller. In all honesty, wired sucks. Wireless is so much better in terms of hand and body placement since there's no wire there to hold you back. Another good thing: No tripping/liability claims!

16th Jun 2007, 00:31	#14
Neogumbercules Ultramodder Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,494	I'd like the addition of rumble. I don't care if the controller is wired as long as its long enough, and Sony has always been generous with cable length. Nintendo, on the other hand, always bugged me with their gamecube controllers having like a 3 inch cord. If they can make the controller last 5 hours before having to be charged, that would be more than enough for me. Thats enough for 2-3 play sessions for me and I can just plug it in when I'm done. And I'm still waiting on Nintendo to release an official rechargeable battery pack for their Wii-mote. The third party ones are all terrible. __________________ Abit AB9 Pro, Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 CPU, 2GB Corsair DDR2 6400, nVidia 8800GT, Seagate 160 GB HDD.

16th Jun 2007, 03:10	#15
Colonel Sanders Ultramodder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Middle of nowhere(in USA) Posts: 1,193	Rumble is nice, but I don't consider it too important. Wireless is cool, but I hate worrying about batteries, and I've never had much trouble with wired controllers. Personally, I would probbably buy a wired PS3 controller with rumble and six-axis even if there was a wireless option, I simply hate worrying about batteries. L J __________________ "Play a Windows CD backwards and hear satanic messages. Thats nothing, play it forwards and it installs Windows."

16th Jun 2007, 22:46	#16
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,469	but wireless is the future __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

16th Jun 2007, 23:05	#17
CollinstheClown -Xbox Pwner- Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Norwood, PA in the USA Posts: 167	I'd laugh if they brought back the old version... -CollinstheClown

17th Jun 2007, 00:57	#18
mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,048	I hate the position of the analogue sticks. I mean they make it so you must use them in most games so why is there still the dpad in the place where it feel more comfortable to have the analogue stick. Microsoft had got it right, I love MS 360 pads and the original xbox pad. I would also prefer the second stick where the buttons are and arch the buttons around the stick. Id think that would feel much better. Sonys position of both sticks gives me cramp as its not natural or comfortable. They need to sort it out. What seems to be a temp fix on the Ps1 as been made fixed. I mean when the sticks came out for PS1 most games used the D-pad and not many games used the sticks so there position was out of the way and not to effect the normal play with the d-pad. PS2 used the same pad which I thought was stupid because most games were made to use the sticks and they should have replaced the d-pad then. I think they are even more stupid to use the same setup a third time. Let hope for a complete re-design. __________________ -\|- Xfire - Mikeuk2005 -\|- Xbox Live - Mike UK 2006 -\|- Playstation Network - Mikeuk2004 -\|-

17th Jun 2007, 14:59	#20
completemadness Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 887	the only problem with the PlayStation controller for me is its a bit small, some of the custom controllers are much more ergonomic, and fit your hands a lot better Other then that, although it seems a bit odd, everything on the PS controller is at your fingertips