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Da Dego · 20th Jun 2007, 14:03

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06...es_immersion/1

In an interesting double-twist worthy of a novel, Microsoft has sued Immersion, makers of the rumble pack. Why? Because it won against Sony.

C-Sniper · 20th Jun 2007, 14:27

How Ironic. Someone looses(technically since they settled out of court) and now they want money from the win of the other loser.

Hells_Bliss · 20th Jun 2007, 14:38

well, if they were smart enough to sign a contract with that built in, and immersion was stupid enough to sign it, then sure I can see this happening. MS will win too.

mctigger · 20th Jun 2007, 14:49

im just wondering, if immersion settled out of court, and the deal they made with microsoft was if they won, which indicates to me in court, they get the payement, but as immersion and sony settled out of court, microsoft shouldn't get anything. well thats how i read it from what i have seen.

cjmUK · 20th Jun 2007, 14:59

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Originally Posted by mctigger

im just wondering, if immersion settled out of court, and the deal they made with microsoft was if they won, which indicates to me in court, they get the payement, but as immersion and sony settled out of court, microsoft shouldn't get anything. well thats how i read it from what i have seen.

That's why we have courts and lawyers...so we can argue a lot over what seems to be straight-forward. *Everything* is open to interpretation.

mctigger · 20th Jun 2007, 15:08

yeah i know, but was just making my point, nothing is straightforward these days

lol

completemadness · 20th Jun 2007, 15:48

lol so now Sony sue for uncompetitive business practises, and everyone gets their money back, gg

Spacecowboy92 · 20th Jun 2007, 16:55

What an odd and complicated deal to make. Why dident Immersion just say give us the money, no frills.

Hells_Bliss · 20th Jun 2007, 17:04

because they weren't sure they were going to win against sony? i dunno

Amon · 20th Jun 2007, 17:28

Megasoft needs to get lost.

TheVoice · 20th Jun 2007, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Amon

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Megasoft needs to get lost.

They have every right to defend the contract. Any company could have done the same thing.

SNIPERMikeUK · 20th Jun 2007, 21:54

I only wish i thought of that....I mean motors in pads who ever thought it.

Constructacon · 20th Jun 2007, 23:34

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Originally Posted by SNIPERMikeUK

I only wish i thought of that....I mean motors in pads who ever thought it.

Immersion did. Then made a bundle off it

Microsoft are justified here. Immersion should never have signed that contract. Idiots.

Tyinsar · 21st Jun 2007, 00:40

To me the deal Immersion & MS made sounds a little fishy:

Immersion: We want money from you but we'll cut you a deal if we get more from Sony.
MS: hmm, pocket change for us plus we'll get some back. This hurts the PS3. How can we help?

Immersion: .oO(

, MS "admitting guilt" helped us get Sony.

Maybe we can run with the money while they're not looking.

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Edit: Just finished reading Brett's article (link) It's exactly what I was thinking.

Amon · 21st Jun 2007, 05:14

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Originally Posted by TheVoice

They have every right to defend the contract. Any company could have done the same thing.

Conceiving that backdoor kind of contract condition, to me, vividly depicts Megasoft having their F-box irrecoverably deep up their... ass-uming ego.

They're just asking for a bum rap when they, being the guilty one in the rumble technology lawsuit, append these 'conditional scenarios' onto their agreement: it doesn't make sense for the guilty party to be seeking compensation from the prosecutor; totally illogical, if not countersue-worthy.

I'm also scratching my head at Immersion's choice to agree to those conditions.

mikeuk2004 · 21st Jun 2007, 11:40

What a strange deal. I mean you sue MS and Sony and let Ms off £15M if they win against Sony.

So Sony is not only paying its own bill to Immersion but is also paying for MS's bill too.

Alot of money just for a little rumble.

20th Jun 2007, 14:03	#1
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Microsoft sues Immersion http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06...es_immersion/1 In an interesting double-twist worthy of a novel, Microsoft has sued Immersion, makers of the rumble pack. Why? Because it won against Sony. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

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Spacecowboy92 Gettin' Lazy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Winchester, UK Posts: 757	What an odd and complicated deal to make. Why dident Immersion just say give us the money, no frills. __________________

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20th Jun 2007, 14:49	#4
mctigger Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 516	im just wondering, if immersion settled out of court, and the deal they made with microsoft was if they won, which indicates to me in court, they get the payement, but as immersion and sony settled out of court, microsoft shouldn't get anything. well thats how i read it from what i have seen.

20th Jun 2007, 15:08	#6
mctigger Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 516	yeah i know, but was just making my point, nothing is straightforward these days lol

20th Jun 2007, 15:48	#7
completemadness Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 887	lol so now Sony sue for uncompetitive business practises, and everyone gets their money back, gg

20th Jun 2007, 21:54	#12
SNIPERMikeUK Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 134	Odd thought comes to mind!!! I only wish i thought of that....I mean motors in pads who ever thought it. __________________ SNIPERMikeUK

21st Jun 2007, 00:40	#14
Tyinsar 6 screens / 1 card Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AB.CA Posts: 2,005	To me the deal Immersion & MS made sounds a little fishy: Immersion: We want money from you but we'll cut you a deal if we get more from Sony. MS: hmm, pocket change for us plus we'll get some back. This hurts the PS3. How can we help? Immersion: .oO( , MS "admitting guilt" helped us get Sony. Maybe we can run with the money while they're not looking. ) Edit: Just finished reading Brett's article (link) It's exactly what I was thinking. __________________ It's not about how life treats you, it's about how you treat life. Last edited by Tyinsar; 21st Jun 2007 at 00:58.

21st Jun 2007, 11:40	#16
mikeuk2004 What you Looking at Fool! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,045	What a strange deal. I mean you sue MS and Sony and let Ms off £15M if they win against Sony. So Sony is not only paying its own bill to Immersion but is also paying for MS's bill too. Alot of money just for a little rumble. __________________ -\|- Xfire - Mikeuk2005 -\|- Xbox Live - Mike UK 2006 -\|- Playstation Network - Mikeuk2004 -\|-