Manhunt 2 rated AO by ESRB - bit-tech.net Forums

Da Dego · 20th Jun 2007, 20:41

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06...d_ao_by_esrb/1

The ESRB has given a preliminary Adults Only rating to both versions of Manhunt 2 in America.

Spacecowboy92 · 20th Jun 2007, 20:46

Why not just ban it there? or cant they do that.

CardJoe · 20th Jun 2007, 21:22

ESRB doesn't have the right. Unlike the BBFC they are a voluntary ratings system, not a legally approved body, though like the BBFC they are still independant of the government.

Retailers like Wal-mart use them as a guideline however, and won't stock games with an AO rating, so developers often prefer a maximum of an M rating as places like Target and Wal-Mart have a significant effect on sales.

At least, thats my understanding of it and I'm not American.

SNIPERMikeUK · 20th Jun 2007, 21:42

These games are crap, now if Grand Theft Auto was banned then that would be a travesty....

docodine · 20th Jun 2007, 21:59

Oh no, there goes my one chance at playing an educational game on the Wii.

But really, the main premise of the Manhunt series seems the reason why it's being banned. (pretty much, anyway.)

Hell, in Zelda you swing your sword at human-like opponents, and they fly backwards and explode. You then go on to consume their heart.

They really have to stop freaking out about a little violence, just as much violence was in the movie Saw, and that wasn't banned...

Morphine-Kitty · 20th Jun 2007, 23:15

This is stupid. Like was said above me, Saw was never banned and they're the same level of violence. For those who say it's the "interaction" with the game that makes it bad, if you are impressionable enough to murder someone because a bunch of pixels "told you to", you need some help and SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE. I honestly think when all these parents start complaining about video games and how they inspire violence, they need to sit down and think if its really their parenting thats bad.

By the way CardJoe, you got it spot-on. It's just a SUGGESTED rating, and they have no legal standing on banning games and the like.

Yemerich · 21st Jun 2007, 00:50

Well if its a AO rating they want so let it be! I am pretty sure that still will sell good. Because its a very good game (at least the first was). Perhaps they can sell online, like "steam" or such.

The only real complain i have is...
WHAT??? NO PC VERSION?!?!?

Aankhen · 21st Jun 2007, 03:27

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Originally Posted by Morphine-Kitty

This is stupid. Like was said above me, Saw was never banned and they're the same level of violence. For those who say it's the "interaction" with the game that makes it bad, if you are impressionable enough to murder someone because a bunch of pixels "told you to", you need some help and SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Certainly. May I just point out that people do a lot of things that they "SHOULDN'T BE DOING IN THE FIRST PLACE"?

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I honestly think when all these parents start complaining about video games and how they inspire violence, they need to sit down and think if its really their parenting thats bad.

Yes, they need to. But they won't. They'll always look for something else to blame it on, with the end result being that society gains more and more twisted inhabitants.

Tulatin · 21st Jun 2007, 07:42

Y'know, if i was rockstar at this point, i would COMPLETELY change the game before submitting it. Make it into a kid's game, a satirical - albeit clean, look at a penile colony where an idea of violence gets cut out of the picture. Make the UK board and the ESRB look like a bunch of twats it would.

CardJoe · 21st Jun 2007, 08:57

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Originally Posted by Tulatin

penile colony

Um, you mean penal colony, right?

Havok154 · 21st Jun 2007, 09:03

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Originally Posted by Yemerich

Well if its a AO rating they want so let it be! I am pretty sure that still will sell good. Because its a very good game (at least the first was). Perhaps they can sell online, like "steam" or such.

The only real complain i have is...
WHAT??? NO PC VERSION?!?!?

Well SONY and Nintendo have already come out and said that they do not allow AO rated games to be released on their systems, which means Rockstar either has to scrap the game or do some heavy editing.

mikeuk2004 · 21st Jun 2007, 11:47

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Originally Posted by SNIPERMikeUK

These games are crap, now if Grand Theft Auto was banned then that would be a travesty....

GTA 1 was banned in the UK for a period.

Lucidity · 21st Jun 2007, 14:00

Take 2 should grow a pair, code it for the 360, and release it as AO. If the game sells well it will be a major step for the gaming industry. It will tell other developers and companies that they can sell more mature games. As long as retailers card people, I'm not sure how much trouble will be stirred up.

Morphine-Kitty · 21st Jun 2007, 19:27

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Originally Posted by Aankhen

Certainly. May I just point out that people do a lot of things that they "SHOULDN'T BE DOING IN THE FIRST PLACE"?

Very valid point. In fact, thats the exact reason the Darwins exist.

20th Jun 2007, 20:41	#1
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CardJoe Player Character bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,988	ESRB doesn't have the right. Unlike the BBFC they are a voluntary ratings system, not a legally approved body, though like the BBFC they are still independant of the government. Retailers like Wal-mart use them as a guideline however, and won't stock games with an AO rating, so developers often prefer a maximum of an M rating as places like Target and Wal-Mart have a significant effect on sales. At least, thats my understanding of it and I'm not American. __________________ this is joe's non-bit-tech blog

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SNIPERMikeUK Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 137	We are not missing much!!! These games are crap, now if Grand Theft Auto was banned then that would be a travesty.... __________________ SNIPERMikeUK

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Morphine-Kitty Dead account. Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 366	This is stupid. Like was said above me, Saw was never banned and they're the same level of violence. For those who say it's the "interaction" with the game that makes it bad, if you are impressionable enough to murder someone because a bunch of pixels "told you to", you need some help and SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE. I honestly think when all these parents start complaining about video games and how they inspire violence, they need to sit down and think if its really their parenting thats bad. By the way CardJoe, you got it spot-on. It's just a SUGGESTED rating, and they have no legal standing on banning games and the like. __________________ Not posting on this forum anymore...

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docodine Ultramodder Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,498	Oh no, there goes my one chance at playing an educational game on the Wii. But really, the main premise of the Manhunt series seems the reason why it's being banned. (pretty much, anyway.) Hell, in Zelda you swing your sword at human-like opponents, and they fly backwards and explode. You then go on to consume their heart. They really have to stop freaking out about a little violence, just as much violence was in the movie Saw, and that wasn't banned...

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Yemerich What's a rebimboca da parafuseta? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 714	Well if its a AO rating they want so let it be! I am pretty sure that still will sell good. Because its a very good game (at least the first was). Perhaps they can sell online, like "steam" or such. The only real complain i have is... WHAT??? NO PC VERSION?!?!? __________________ Bit Tech is more than games and hardware - check out the mods too. Don't let modding die in Bit-Tech.net.

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Tulatin The Froggy Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,942	Y'know, if i was rockstar at this point, i would COMPLETELY change the game before submitting it. Make it into a kid's game, a satirical - albeit clean, look at a penile colony where an idea of violence gets cut out of the picture. Make the UK board and the ESRB look like a bunch of twats it would. __________________ Desky E8400 @ 4.0 1.42v; P5K-E WiFi; 4x1 Kingmax Mars 1066 @ 1129 CAS 5; 2x [TOO CHEAP TO SPONSOR] 4850 @ 675/1050; Enermax Liberty; WCing in a CM690

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Lucidity Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NC Posts: 139	Take 2 should grow a pair, code it for the 360, and release it as AO. If the game sells well it will be a major step for the gaming industry. It will tell other developers and companies that they can sell more mature games. As long as retailers card people, I'm not sure how much trouble will be stirred up. __________________ [size=1]AMD 64 6000+ X2, Asus M2N SLI Deluxe, 4 GBs of Corsair XMS 6400 ram, Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320mb