News Manhunt 2 now without platform

[Tim S]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/06...out_platform/1

Nintendo announces that it will not release an AO rated title. Sony agrees.

[BioSniper]

Soo.. It'll get ported to PC then?

[CardJoe]

Not in the UK, no.

[perplekks45]

Interesting moves by Sony and Nintendo. But what better publicity could Rockstar hope for? If they port it to PC now and release it wherever they're allowed to it might sell way better than it would've done without all those bans.

[Paradigm Shifter]

Aren't Rockstar based in the UK? If the game is illegal here, will that cause them other problems?

I wouldn't have bought this if it was available, I'm moderately amused by the controversy surrounding gaming (again) at the moment - and Jack Thompson isn't even involved! - but in the end, I won't buy it anyway.

[yakyb]

i think they should write a port to pc with no intention to release then have a copy mysteriously leak onto the internet as a big FU to the health and safety activists out there

[Buzzons]

What about MS?

[Flibblebot]

IMHO, Rockstar should concentrate on writing half-decent games rather than relying on hype and controversy to sell them.

[mikeuk2004]

mm Sony and nintendo will not allow Adult only content on their machines. How much porn has been stored on PS3 hard drives or dvd's played onthe Ps2???

I bet alot. so what they are saying they dont want Adult games but porn is ok because they cant stop that.

[zr_ox]

To be honest perhaps it's about time that games like this were banned.

I played the first Manhunt for 10 minutes then switched it off. Gaming is supposed to be about entertainment, I cant see how torture, and inflicting as much human misery and suffering can associated with entertainment?

Rockstars GTA series have always been favorites of mine though, I hope that the next installment helps put them back on track.

(I have the original Manhunt for £8 inc p&p...via pm)

[will.]

Originally Posted by Flibblebot

IMHO, Rockstar should concentrate on writing half-decent games rather than relying on hype and controversy to sell them.

Do they not do both?

GTA might have got a bit stale when it got to San Andreas, but it was still as fun as ever to play and was a technical masterpeice on the PS2...

Anyway, they will just remove the stuff that got it banned (and I wouldn't be surprised if it was put there in full knowledge of what was going to happen) and then it will get its lower rating and people will buy it just to see what all the fuss was about.

If they pulled this kind of stunt with GTA I'd be worried that they knew the content sucked and just wanted to make as much money as possible, but manhunt is by no means their flagship game and is probably seen as a quick win. Same as Bully.

[will.]

Originally Posted by zr_ox

To be honest perhaps it's about time that games like this were banned.

I played the first Manhunt for 10 minutes then switched it off. Gaming is supposed to be about entertainment, I cant see how torture, and inflicting as much human misery and suffering can associated with entertainment?

Rockstars GTA series have always been favorites of mine though, I hope that the next installment helps put them back on track.

(I have the original Manhunt for £8 inc p&p...via pm)

Do you not play any violent games then? Do you not run around pretending to be a WWII soldier shooting other "human beings" in the chest? The setting in which the game is placed does not remove the fact that your still maiming and brutally killing something.

And don't say they aren't the same thing.. The end result is the same, death.

I personally do think that in its current state it probably should be given a rethink, but at least my reasoning is sound and not a crappy argument like that.

Did you not play San Andreas, a favourite of yours? I seem to remember at some point burying a construction site foreman alive in a portaloo just for looking at my bitch ass sister the wrong way.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

I get very annoyed by SCE and Nintendo's views on 'Adult Only' games. There biggest customers are adults and i would like to be able to choose what i want to play, not get told what i am allowed to play.

[perplekks45]

Originally Posted by will.

And don't say they aren't the same thing.. The end result is the
same, death.

So you'd say a soldier is a murderer? Over here you'd be put in jail for that.
I wouldn't say he ain't but in my eyes a soldier killing somebody is pretty different to being rewarded for sneaking at someone, pulling a plastic bag over his head and beat his face as long as he tries to breathe.

To me the first is "just" killing the second is OTT brutal, senseless, no-fun-in-any-way slaughter. It's both wrong, reprehensible and senseless but to me there's still a difference.

[Neji]

Soooo, what about the world outside the uk and usa? Are NOA speaking for all of Nintendodom? Does this mean it won't be released anywhere?

[zr_ox]

Originally Posted by will.

Do you not play any violent games then? Do you not run around pretending to be a WWII soldier shooting other "human beings" in the chest? The setting in which the game is placed does not remove the fact that your still maiming and brutally killing something.

And don't say they aren't the same thing.. The end result is the same, death.

I personally do think that in its current state it probably should be given a rethink, but at least my reasoning is sound and not a crappy argument like that.

Did you not play San Andreas, a favourite of yours? I seem to remember at some point burying a construction site foreman alive in a portaloo just for looking at my bitch ass sister the wrong way.

I read your reply and all I hear is bla bla bla bla bla.

I'm entitled to my opinion, so get off your high horse. If it were not for the insults I would have been much more interested in your reply. I did not make any argument I simply imparted my opinion.

As for GTA, yes I enjoyed burrying that guy since the tone of the game is humorous and tounge in cheek. I enjoy shooting Germans and freeing the world from Nazi rule almost just as much. The tone of violence in Manhunt just does not interest me, which is why I played it for 10 minutes and have no intention of playing number 2 even if it is released.

I would have been happier to discuss this had your tone been a little better, however honest discussion is obviously lost on you. You would rather try reverting to ridicule in an effort to increase your withering self esteem. Lets just leave it at that and agree that perhaps we have different opinions on whats suitable.

[Yemerich]

Perhaps thats good after all! Now they will be forced to release it to PC.

I dont think people will drop the AO rating. And honestly i don't think they should. IT IS a ultra violent and sick game (IMO the most violent I ever saw). But thats ok for me and perhaps for most people who choose rockstar games to play. I don't see any programmers in rockstar (who must be the most sick ppl in the games world) sticking glass shards in other peoples eyes.

When i was younger, I remember when someone tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne for that song "suicide solution" because his son commited suicide. Looks like from times to times they must elege something (or someone) to be the target for blaming about violence. I don't see these people doing something against stupid REAL violence. Do you need some better example Than the Iraq war?

Here in Brazil all the cigarettes boxes comes with photos of dead rats (stating that it is used some poisonous substances on it) or a dying guy with a traqueostomy due to a cancer, a deformed fetus and lots more. Meaning: "smokers are all advised". But the products are still on sale.

They don't need to ban an AO game. Porn is illegal to minors but they are still selling. The probalty of getting a porn movie is far higher than getting a game because there are more adult movies on the shelves than a particular game. Particulary, btw, i would love to see some QUALITY porn (not hentai nor Virtual Valery 2) in AO games too...

Anyway. IMHO I think "the evil is on our own". I've played MH lots of times and i still teach computer classes to poor people without riping their head apart with a piano wire.

[Almightyrastus]

At least if the ratings do get overturned on appeal Rockstar has had some awesome free advertising through it all

If there is to be a PC release at some point then there is not really much that rules and laws would be able to do about it ending up here in the UK, sure they might be able to officially stop it but PCs don't have the same region controls that consoles do.

[Yemerich]

Yeah i know. But i am saying that with a PC version they have a light in the end of the tunnel (that i hope its not a train). They should have a service like Valve's "Steam" to beat all this rating and controversy they are always getting. Looks like they use all the hype in their favour after all...

Anyway, i am anxious to get my hands on a copy of Manhunt 2!

[themax]

It's SCE's policy not to allow the playback of AO rated content on our systems.

The Hentai games released on PS2 beg to differ in Japan. If I am wrong someone correct me.


zr_ox that was hardly an insult, but rather, a good challenege to everyone's sudden shock and awe of Manhunt. Apparently it's ok to kill, as long as it's a Nazi soldier, or if you are Kratos ripping of an animorphic being's arm, then slashing them down the middle with the blade still in their hand, or better yet, how about when you rip out the eye of a cyclops and get a "good job you just got an item" message? What about in Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, when you "stealth" kill in a very similar fashion to manhunt, or bleed someone dry or all their blood.

I understand it's an opinion, but maybe it's not him that needs to get off their high horse. Aside from your percieved ideas of what is ok for killing, violence is violence. And if people think Manhunt is so evil and bad, then I find it hard to believe they think God of War I & II (the first one containing a bit more adult oriented material in another fashion yet receving an M rating) is fine or that Call of Duty 3 is any less graphic what with explosions, people being mowed down by MG Nests, Flak cannons destroying the planes, snipers shooting your comrads.