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Tim S · 4th Jul 2007, 13:00

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07...e_looks_good/1

Amid speculation of even further delays to AMD's next-generation quad-core processors, the company has been talking about Barcelona's performance with its partners.

rupbert · 4th Jul 2007, 13:12

Impressive figures indeed.

If only AMD/ATI could get them out sooner.

bubsterboo · 4th Jul 2007, 13:17

Cool, I'm excited. I still don't buy anything without seeing reviews. But the Barcelona looks like a winner to me.

MR BUNGLE · 4th Jul 2007, 13:19

WOW.
Some of those figures are pretty amazing for a 2.3GHz chip....
However, there is no FPU comparison with the current architecture, which has always been very good at certain SPEC benches..
- I believe that even current AMD parts are pretty strong against Core2, so it would be nice to see just how much stronger the new chips are (or not).

Still, nice to see something official about Barcelona performance, rather than Fanboi hype!

Dr. Strangelove · 4th Jul 2007, 13:19

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Will you be waiting for some solid performance numbers before you make the plunge?

What a silly question, we will naturally all be waiting for the full bit-tech review before we even contemplate getting one of these

Buzzons · 4th Jul 2007, 13:51

How accurately do synthetic benchmarks show the speed of a cpu though, they could easily be heavily tweaked applications specific for the opteron code...*shrug*

DXR_13KE · 4th Jul 2007, 14:28

i prefer real world benchmarks....

Tim S · 4th Jul 2007, 15:10

updated with some more information I've managed to gather.

DougEdey · 4th Jul 2007, 15:15

Tim, that image was from back in February surely someone must have noticed this before today?

Dr. Strangelove · 4th Jul 2007, 15:18

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Originally Posted by DougEdey

Tim, that image was from back in February surely someone must have noticed this before today?

could it be from an internal presentation that has not been leaked before now? I know that sounds strange considering most IT companies seem about as leak-prof as the titanic.

Anyway I would love to see Intel's corresponding slide, on that one they probably beat AMD by 75%

Tim S · 4th Jul 2007, 15:26

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Originally Posted by DougEdey

Tim, that image was from back in February surely someone must have noticed this before today?

It's an internal document that made its way out this week. Also, the results from SPEC (for the Xeons and the Opteron 2222 SE) are from April 2007, so I believe the date at the bottom is wrong.

DarkLord7854 · 4th Jul 2007, 17:01

I wonder if they're gonna pull another R600 stunt and just make it all hype and then a big flop >.>

DXR_13KE · 4th Jul 2007, 18:43

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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854

I wonder if they're gonna pull another R600 stunt and just make it all hype and then a big flop >.>

quoted for truth

Andy Mc · 4th Jul 2007, 18:54

I will wait until I see a real benchmark before passing comment, but i really hope AMD get things sorted and take back their performance crown from Intel.

Amon · 4th Jul 2007, 19:43

If bit-tech is going to review a Phenom FX chip, could I save a few quid and buy it second-hand off of you guys afterwards? I'd have the L1N mainboard and FX-72 by release time and I would certainly be eternally grateful.

Aankhen · 4th Jul 2007, 21:32

I dunno, the original article sounded good, but after the update, it all sounds rather fishy.

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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

quoted for truth

…that phrase is getting way too much use in situations where it makes no sense.

mclean007 · 4th Jul 2007, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Aankhen

…that phrase is getting way too much use in situations where it makes no sense.

quoted for truth

Actually, that phrase really does annoy me too. It's just the latest in a long line of 1337 k00l f0ru|\/| 5p33kzorz. What's wrong with "I agree"??

identikit · 4th Jul 2007, 21:52

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Originally Posted by rupbert

Impressive figures indeed.

If only AMD/ATI could get them out sooner.

Exactly, with Intel's price cuts coming up people are not going to wait forever (me included).

bubsterboo · 4th Jul 2007, 21:54

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Originally Posted by identikit

Exactly, with Intel's price cuts coming up people are not going to wait forever (me included).

Yeah, the price of the quad after the price cut is almost too good to turn down.

Mankz · 4th Jul 2007, 21:58

I think that AMD will bring it out on time, and it will be good. They have soo much at stake here, it has to be good.

Remember when AMD was on top with S939 and A64 over 775 6-series CPU's? Intel looked shameful and then the tides turned with C2D, so prehaps the same will happen again.

Also, Tim, if that document says confidential at the bottom, why are you allowed to print it?

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