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Da Dego · 10th Jul 2007, 19:35

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07..._2nd_half_07/1

It's coming, it's not, it's coming, it's not...the story has changed so much. But now it's official- Vista Service Pack 1 is due out in the latter half of this year.

Veles · 10th Jul 2007, 19:39

Any ideas on what features they're implementing with SP1? Or is that top secret too?

DXR_13KE · 10th Jul 2007, 20:03

how i hate MS for this secret mumbo jumbo.... i pay for their software so i demand that they tell me when they will fix it.

Veles · 10th Jul 2007, 20:05

If you're gonna blame anyone it should really be the hardware and software developers, their support for Vista has been awful, and the majority of Vista problems stem from there. As it says in the article, Vista is actually very stable, it's just got awful driver support.

Amon · 10th Jul 2007, 20:08

10 bucks says Megasoft flip-flops again in a week.

zoom314 · 10th Jul 2007, 20:29

Question is will DVDs made under Vista sp1 be compatible with other MS OSes?

capnPedro · 10th Jul 2007, 22:04

Bug fixes are always good. SP1 is a step in the right direction for people hesitant to switch.

Ramble · 10th Jul 2007, 22:10

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Originally Posted by Veles

Any ideas on what features they're implementing with SP1? Or is that top secret too?

I don't know much, but this service pack will be quite different from the last one. Apart from bug fixes (hurrah), they're also replacing the kernel we're curerntly using under Vista, with the one that's in Server 2008. That will be absolutely brillo.

proxess · 10th Jul 2007, 22:13

the new privacy snooping code isn't ready yet.

SPQQKY · 10th Jul 2007, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Veles

If you're gonna blame anyone it should really be the hardware and software developers, their support for Vista has been awful, and the majority of Vista problems stem from there. As it says in the article, Vista is actually very stable, it's just got awful driver support.

Agreed, Creative only recently released an official driver for Vista, until about 4 weeks ago it was still beta. I mean come on folks, get out of the lazy chair.
ATi and nVidia drivers have been less than stellar, though I am pretty happy with the latest nVidia, still some minor bugs.

Neat69 · 10th Jul 2007, 23:21

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Originally Posted by Veles

If you're gonna blame anyone it should really be the hardware and software developers, their support for Vista has been awful, and the majority of Vista problems stem from there. As it says in the article, Vista is actually very stable, it's just got awful driver support.

I think this has more to do with the fact driver for vista are a bitch to get working and Microsoft are not pulling there weight to help out.

steveo_mcg · 10th Jul 2007, 23:33

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Why is Microsoft not coming out and announcing the release?

Because if folk think the sp is due they wont be spending money on the product till then. Coupled with IT depts are not going to go to the effort of rolling out Vista then rolling out SP1 a few weeks later, they won't say in case it damages sales however temporarily

Spaceraver · 11th Jul 2007, 00:06

adding another slice of bloat to the fat system.. give me just as many options as to what i want and dont want in my os and ill buy it.. and a little tickbox that says no friggin Microsoft spyware allowed

Aankhen · 11th Jul 2007, 01:47

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Originally Posted by Neat69

I think this has more to do with the fact driver for vista are a bitch to get working and Microsoft are not pulling there weight to help out.

Are you working on drivers for Vista?

[USRF]Obiwan · 11th Jul 2007, 09:32

some bugs i encountered on vista:

When opening network neighboorhood. IT says that there are no shares found. You can refresh to the the end of time but no other shared pc's hds will be found. When you type in the computername in the searchbar (you where sure of that there are numerous folders shared) like \\pcdownstairs. It wil suddenly find all network shares. Close window, open network neighboorhood again and it wl say there are no shares at all.

When alt+tabbing from a game. Its almost impossible to get it back fullscreen again. Instead it floats on the desktop in a window in the resolution you have setup for the game (game: 1280x1024) desktop 1680x1050.

I wont say it is vista's fault. But i guess it probably is.

will. · 11th Jul 2007, 11:02

As long as they fix the surround sound for programs other than ****ing media player. I was so pissed off when i realised that none of my games support surround sound in vista because they changed the way sound is handled.

Nikumba · 11th Jul 2007, 11:58

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Originally Posted by will.

As long as they fix the surround sound for programs other than ****ing media player. I was so pissed off when i realised that none of my games support surround sound in vista because they changed the way sound is handled.

Well that would depend on what sound card your using tbh since Microsoft have nothing to do with when companies release drivers for Vista. IT was only recently that Realtek released full 64bit Vista drivers for my mobo.

But will be interesting to see what performace gains would come from the new Kernel though

Kimbie

ComputerKing · 11th Jul 2007, 12:02

WTF.. SP1 ROFL I was think that is gona.. **** !

Delphium · 11th Jul 2007, 12:49

Yer ill be pleased when soundmax release some better drivers for vista 64bit, as currently all my games and sound applications detect the sound card as a stereo / 2channel device

, where as if I use the digtal out, for the likes of DVD's then i do get the full 7.1.

I was thinking about getting a SoundBlaster XFI Pro sound card, but am unsure if it will get detected as a 2channel device in games and audio applications like Traktor DJ or if it will get detected as a full multi channel sound device.

Anyone know if it does, or any other sound cards that do get detected as multi channel in vista 64bit?

capnPedro · 11th Jul 2007, 14:53

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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan

some bugs i encountered on vista:

When opening network neighboorhood. IT says that there are no shares found. You can refresh to the the end of time but no other shared pc's hds will be found. When you type in the computername in the searchbar (you where sure of that there are numerous folders shared) like \\pcdownstairs. It wil suddenly find all network shares. Close window, open network neighboorhood again and it wl say there are no shares at all.

This has happened to me before, I fixed it by checking my firewall settings and making sure the PCs were on the same workgroup. Now it works like a champ - even faster than XP at detecting PCs.

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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan

When alt+tabbing from a game. Its almost impossible to get it back fullscreen again. Instead it floats on the desktop in a window in the resolution you have setup for the game (game: 1280x1024) desktop 1680x1050.

Happens to me with Halo 2 occasionally, but no other games do it. It's less Vista's fault as it is the game's.

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Originally Posted by will.

As long as they fix the surround sound for programs other than ****ing media player. I was so pissed off when i realised that none of my games support surround sound in vista because they changed the way sound is handled.

Go into control panel => Sound, right-click on Speakers and go to properties. Go to the Enhancements tab and put a tick next to "Speaker Fill". This pissed me off for like 4 hours until I discovered this.

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