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Tim S · 18th Jul 2007, 11:14

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07...ly_bad_adwar/1

You thought Vista was already pretty bad having dozens of services secretly calling home? How about an advertising framework that uses contextual data from your PC? This new patent from Microsoft could make things a whole lot worse.

RTT · 18th Jul 2007, 11:15

That's insane. I could understand it if they did this to people using non-genuine copies, or offered windows for free if yuo want to have this adware crap, but if they're going to force that on normal, genuine installations, then that's a huge mistake. I hope they're just patenting it to stop other adware companies doing it

DougEdey · 18th Jul 2007, 11:21

I've suspected this for a while, ever since I saw Microsoft advertising for advertisers. Basically it was saying that they wanted to advertise inside peoples homes.

Originally I thought it was just MSN/Live stuff. But no I think different. I'll try and find a picture of the original advert

Leitchy · 18th Jul 2007, 11:32

If this did happen, especially to paying customers, then all it would do is drive people to illegal cracked "non snooping" Windows Software. So wouldn't be a good move for Microsoft. On the other hand, if it was targeted as a free windows release with marketing bumf then that seems to be fair enough.

Dr. Strangelove · 18th Jul 2007, 11:39

if this happens I will move to linux faster than you can say "built-in adware no thanks"

shaq · 18th Jul 2007, 11:52

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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

if this happens I will move to linux faster than you can say "built-in adware no thanks"

Why wait?

mmorgue · 18th Jul 2007, 11:53

As much as I am for supporting legitimate, officially purchased software, hearing about something like this means I'm only going to be more for pirating a futures version of M$ software that's been "fixed" rather than give them my money for service-hogging adware.

/sigh

ChromeX · 18th Jul 2007, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove

if this happens I will move to linux faster than you can say "built-in adware no thanks"

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing!!

DXR_13KE · 18th Jul 2007, 11:59

i think i will wait for MS's response..... there is no way they are doing this without loosing lots of customers....

edit: i think this is a strategic time to make a OS making company....

Hiren · 18th Jul 2007, 12:04

Just because it's a patent doesn't mean it's going to happen. Perhaps it will be used for a low cost version of Windows for developing countries? Stil perhaps not the best way forward.

BioSniper · 18th Jul 2007, 12:18

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Originally Posted by RTT

I hope they're just patenting it to stop other adware companies doing it

QFT.
Though is MS REALLY that nice to consumers?

mikeuk2004 · 18th Jul 2007, 12:21

I was thinking of actually buying Vista Premium as its only £65 OEM. Now I dont think so, as im playing less on Pc now as I cant afford to keep up.

I think a OS swap will be ideal for me if my vid editing programs and paint shop pro work on another Os, then ill swap as thats all I do now on PC and shop.

BlueDemon · 18th Jul 2007, 12:37

I am truly amazed that anyone is surprised by this latest move towards a complete erosion of privacy and a total blanketing by advertising. It is perfectly in line with the course that MS have been sailing the last decade, helped along by unsuspecting people who blindly use their "user-friendly" aka tracker-friendly Passport login for just about every web-related activity. Has there been ANY inquiry as to what MS does right now with the data they gather from monitoring Passport/MSN activity?
This new scheme to mass-harvest private data is simply the next logical step. Maybe it's time to shop around for a nice Linux distro...

MonkeyNutZ · 18th Jul 2007, 12:59

Yay for XP/2000

Dr. Strangelove · 18th Jul 2007, 13:19

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Originally Posted by shaq

Why wait?

Simple I can't be bothered to learn Linux atm. But if MS pulls a stunt like that I will find a whole new reserve of motivation to change.

Cthippo · 18th Jul 2007, 13:30

The reason Linux doesn't need to advertise is that MS does it for them! Long live the penguin!

DarkLord7854 · 18th Jul 2007, 13:35

Well, time to switch to Mac

GoodBytes · 18th Jul 2007, 13:41

nha, that will never happen... I'm actually glad that MS patent this idea, and not some spam maker company.
I remember MS also registered a patent of a TV with a camera on it that looks if the user eyes are actually watching the advertisement, else the ad will repeat. Moreover, it will ask several questions about each at, at the end of them. If the user answer wrong, the ad will repeat.

Up to now, I don't see them making TV's...

Redbeaver · 18th Jul 2007, 14:27

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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854

Well, time to switch to Mac

ditto...

i play games less n less... i dont see any other solid reason to keep me with M$. i kno its only a patent, i dunno what they'r doing with it, but if they (if ever) decided to implement such feature (i cant find any other non-profanity word) in Vista which i paid $200 for......

...well lets just say i have to come out of my retirement n back to my ****** group in IRC....

chrisb2e9 · 18th Jul 2007, 14:42

thank god I happen to like xp. but I still have to wonder how hard it is to do a dual boot with linux.

18th Jul 2007, 11:14	#1
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18th Jul 2007, 11:15	#2
RTT bwarp Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Berkshire Posts: 12,981	That's insane. I could understand it if they did this to people using non-genuine copies, or offered windows for free if yuo want to have this adware crap, but if they're going to force that on normal, genuine installations, then that's a huge mistake. I hope they're just patenting it to stop other adware companies doing it __________________ This post is non-negotiable. All terms and conditions apply. Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special Olympics. Even if you win you're still a retard.

18th Jul 2007, 11:21	#3
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mmorgue Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mos Eisley, in the bar... Posts: 378	As much as I am for supporting legitimate, officially purchased software, hearing about something like this means I'm only going to be more for pirating a futures version of M$ software that's been "fixed" rather than give them my money for service-hogging adware. /sigh Last edited by mmorgue; 18th Jul 2007 at 11:59.

18th Jul 2007, 11:32	#4
Leitchy Supermodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 255	If this did happen, especially to paying customers, then all it would do is drive people to illegal cracked "non snooping" Windows Software. So wouldn't be a good move for Microsoft. On the other hand, if it was targeted as a free windows release with marketing bumf then that seems to be fair enough.

18th Jul 2007, 11:59	#9
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,464	i think i will wait for MS's response..... there is no way they are doing this without loosing lots of customers.... edit: i think this is a strategic time to make a OS making company.... __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

18th Jul 2007, 12:04	#10
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18th Jul 2007, 12:37	#13
BlueDemon Modder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 58	I am truly amazed that anyone is surprised by this latest move towards a complete erosion of privacy and a total blanketing by advertising. It is perfectly in line with the course that MS have been sailing the last decade, helped along by unsuspecting people who blindly use their "user-friendly" aka tracker-friendly Passport login for just about every web-related activity. Has there been ANY inquiry as to what MS does right now with the data they gather from monitoring Passport/MSN activity? This new scheme to mass-harvest private data is simply the next logical step. Maybe it's time to shop around for a nice Linux distro... __________________ ..:: Now, and always ::..

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18th Jul 2007, 13:30	#16
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