Second 360 lawsuit filed against Microsoft - bit-tech.net Forums

Da Dego · 20th Jul 2007, 16:48

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07...st_microsoft/1

A second lawsuit is filed against Microsoft, alleging that the Xbox 360 damages game disks and renders them unusable.

fwalm · 20th Jul 2007, 16:56

ill get you a pic of my gears of war disc to show you what it does to your discs and eit appropriately

Darkedge · 20th Jul 2007, 17:12

i've had no problems and no RROD since launch. I don't think this is a widespread problem or as much as some people think and I remember the PS2 doing this atrociously too.

plagio · 20th Jul 2007, 17:34

Looks like we have to wait a service pack for consoles as well before using them without issues.

devdevil85 · 20th Jul 2007, 17:58

I thought the extended warranty only covered the "red ring of death" and that all other issues were only covered under the original 1-year warranty.....hopefully I'm wrong on that, but if not...then man...more reason to get a PC or a PS3...

Smilodon · 20th Jul 2007, 18:21

5million$ for a damaged disc?

I hope this is a company that is suing Microsoft, and not a person.

I really don't think it would cost any company 5mill.$ to replace some damaged discs...

(and i really can't see how a spinning drive can cause those kind of scratches...)

Neogumbercules · 20th Jul 2007, 19:07

5 million in a class action lawsuit to be split by everyone in the lawsuit, which could be a lot of people. I have no faith in Microsoft in this issue. After more than a year of denying hardware problems and downplaying their poorly designed console, they just now finally admit there is a problem and take over a billion in losses. Now they are back to playing the the deny game about this issue.

kempez · 20th Jul 2007, 19:29

Here's an idea: don't move the thing when it's on and has a disc in it??

Mine never scratches discs when I move it and it's off

Lucidity · 20th Jul 2007, 19:49

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Originally Posted by kempez

Here's an idea: don't move the thing when it's on and has a disc in it??

Mine never scratches discs when I move it and it's off

Exactly, that and if you are really worried about it, keep it horizontal. Any of the systems from the PS2-360-PS3 are more likely to have a disc scratched in the vertical position. I don't move the consoles while they are on, and I don't stand them up, and amazingly I have never had a disc scratched. I hope those people lose and have to pay Microsoft's legal fees for being a bunch of idiots.

EQC · 20th Jul 2007, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by kempez

Here's an idea: don't move the thing when it's on and has a disc in it??

Mine never scratches discs when I move it and it's off

Well, to be fair, one of these lawsuits is in California -- that's Earthquake country. So what if the *Earth* moves my console while I'm playing a game?

(yes, I'm joking...and I'm pretty sure homeowners insurance covers damage related to natural disasters anyway)

DXR_13KE · 20th Jul 2007, 20:34

<- he is still waiting for MS to fix the console before he buys one.

Particle Man · 21st Jul 2007, 07:37

I modded my xbox with some third party fans, so far it's been running strong.

Skill3d · 21st Jul 2007, 10:27

colleague of mine has the same disk scratching issue. He put a disk in the Xbox 360 and it wouldnt play, he hit eject, disk scratchinated. He send his Xbox to Microsoft and they did repair it. Though the disc is still kaput offcourse

and no he did not move his xbox...

FrankBreen · 21st Aug 2007, 09:59

I have the disc scratching problem. My gears of war disc has gone from being perfectly new to being actually unusable now and guess what... my console has always being in the side position as they say it should.

So far my Dead or Alive 4 and GoW and my Star Trek Legacy have suffered scratches... i can send pics or a video even if needs be as you can hear the big noise it makes.

Also occasionally get told my Xbox 360 that i should insert my brand new Xbox 360 game into an Xbox 360 console!! Took me 7 attempts to get PES6 to even boot.

Sent an email to Xbox 360 support..... no response. I'm not a fanboy or anything but Sony pretty much kicks the **** out of Microsoft.

FrankBreen · 21st Aug 2007, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Lucidity

Exactly, that and if you are really worried about it, keep it horizontal. Any of the systems from the PS2-360-PS3 are more likely to have a disc scratched in the vertical position. I don't move the consoles while they are on, and I don't stand them up, and amazingly I have never had a disc scratched. I hope those people lose and have to pay Microsoft's legal fees for being a bunch of idiots.

Clearly you were lucky enough not to have a defective machine. If your console scratched discs, randomly frooze, randomly rebooted & thought ur new games were DVDs i'm sure you'd be annoyed too.

My brother lives in a house where there's 4 xbox 360s and all of them have something to report. I dunno maybe its a regional thing or batch thing or something.

themax · 21st Aug 2007, 13:30

Of course user's shouldn't move the console, but how come my Gamecube, PS3, PS2, and even Xbox can be moved without eating up the disc? If you so much as even touch the 360 while plugging in a controller or something in the back it has a high chance of giving you a nice little halo on the disc. No DVD drive should be that sensitive to movement.

20th Jul 2007, 16:48	#1
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Second 360 lawsuit filed against Microsoft http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07...st_microsoft/1 A second lawsuit is filed against Microsoft, alleging that the Xbox 360 damages game disks and renders them unusable. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

20th Jul 2007, 18:21	#6
Smilodon The Antagonist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 4,889	5million$ for a damaged disc? I hope this is a company that is suing Microsoft, and not a person. I really don't think it would cost any company 5mill.$ to replace some damaged discs... (and i really can't see how a spinning drive can cause those kind of scratches...) __________________ "You have to wonder about a business plan based on the notion that people want to interact with a soda can." -Jeff Salkowski abot the :CueCat My Flickr

20th Jul 2007, 19:07	#7
Neogumbercules Ultramodder Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,494	5 million in a class action lawsuit to be split by everyone in the lawsuit, which could be a lot of people. I have no faith in Microsoft in this issue. After more than a year of denying hardware problems and downplaying their poorly designed console, they just now finally admit there is a problem and take over a billion in losses. Now they are back to playing the the deny game about this issue. __________________ Abit AB9 Pro, Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 CPU, 2GB Corsair DDR2 6400, nVidia 8800GT, Seagate 160 GB HDD.

20th Jul 2007, 19:29	#8
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20th Jul 2007, 20:34	#11
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,469	<- he is still waiting for MS to fix the console before he buys one. __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

20th Jul 2007, 16:56	#2
fwalm Supermodder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 340	ill get you a pic of my gears of war disc to show you what it does to your discs and eit appropriately

20th Jul 2007, 17:12	#3
Darkedge Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 334	i've had no problems and no RROD since launch. I don't think this is a widespread problem or as much as some people think and I remember the PS2 doing this atrociously too.

20th Jul 2007, 17:34	#4
plagio Multimodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 140	Looks like we have to wait a service pack for consoles as well before using them without issues.

20th Jul 2007, 17:58	#5
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	I thought the extended warranty only covered the "red ring of death" and that all other issues were only covered under the original 1-year warranty.....hopefully I'm wrong on that, but if not...then man...more reason to get a PC or a PS3...

21st Jul 2007, 07:37	#12
Particle Man Minimodder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LSA Anaconda; Balad, Iraq Posts: 25	I modded my xbox with some third party fans, so far it's been running strong. __________________ "It's time you saw the future... while you still have human eyes."

21st Jul 2007, 10:27	#13
Skill3d Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 149	colleague of mine has the same disk scratching issue. He put a disk in the Xbox 360 and it wouldnt play, he hit eject, disk scratchinated. He send his Xbox to Microsoft and they did repair it. Though the disc is still kaput offcourse and no he did not move his xbox...

21st Aug 2007, 09:59	#14
FrankBreen What's a Dremel? Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2	I have the disc scratching problem. My gears of war disc has gone from being perfectly new to being actually unusable now and guess what... my console has always being in the side position as they say it should. So far my Dead or Alive 4 and GoW and my Star Trek Legacy have suffered scratches... i can send pics or a video even if needs be as you can hear the big noise it makes. Also occasionally get told my Xbox 360 that i should insert my brand new Xbox 360 game into an Xbox 360 console!! Took me 7 attempts to get PES6 to even boot. Sent an email to Xbox 360 support..... no response. I'm not a fanboy or anything but Sony pretty much kicks the **** out of Microsoft.

21st Aug 2007, 13:30	#16
themax Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 925	Of course user's shouldn't move the console, but how come my Gamecube, PS3, PS2, and even Xbox can be moved without eating up the disc? If you so much as even touch the 360 while plugging in a controller or something in the back it has a high chance of giving you a nice little halo on the disc. No DVD drive should be that sensitive to movement.