RIAA says its legal crusade is pointless - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 24th Jul 2007, 13:03

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07...is_pointless/1

In a bizarre move, the RIAA has acknowledged that its legal campaign against pirates is not solving the piracy problem... but it still feels it's necessary. Brilliant.

Korvaz · 24th Jul 2007, 13:05

Well, there's no blood coming from that stone. Let's squeeze it a bit harder, perhaps.

Seraphim Works · 24th Jul 2007, 13:10

So the best way to solve a problem is to continue down a path that even the RIAA understand won't work? Wouldn't it make sense for the money spent on legal fees to go elsewhere? Like perhaps slowly updating the decades old viewpoint of some in the record industry?

Alternatively, they could always write out a cheque for me.

Paradigm Shifter · 24th Jul 2007, 13:11

"RIAA says it's legal crusade is pointless..."

...I think I just heard the snowplough firing up to get Satan into work after reading this...

C-Sniper · 24th Jul 2007, 13:42

finally they are admitting that they are somewhat retarded in how the act.

Delphium · 24th Jul 2007, 13:50

So... they understand that there tatics dont work, yet there still going to persue there same route.

*Baffles me

mmorgue · 24th Jul 2007, 14:06

Seeing as how they [RIAA] have not offered a more meaningful alternative, nor come up with a business model that suits the consumer, what else can they? Apart from admit their current strategy is useless and simply pray on those that might actually cough up some ££ out of scare tactics...

DXR_13KE · 24th Jul 2007, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter

"RIAA says it's legal crusade is pointless..."

...I think I just heard the snowplough firing up to get Satan into work after reading this...

and pigs are growing wings.......

Amon · 24th Jul 2007, 15:18

In case anyone hasn't queued in yet, brace yourselves for a torrent (figuratively) of DRM protection.

Bladestorm · 24th Jul 2007, 17:24

The way I hear it most of the people when sued over it, settle out of court, for a good bit more than the music would have cost them legally, so chances are the legal crusade is making them money, even if it isn't neccessarily having much of an effect on piracy.

pendragon · 24th Jul 2007, 17:27

"hey guys this stuff is broken, let's keep using it! yea!"

Faulk_Wulf · 24th Jul 2007, 17:51

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein.

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EmJay · 24th Jul 2007, 18:09

I wonder what would work - changing the music industry so their income is from live appearances, and music is essentially share-ware? Of course, we're only about half a step away from the same situation with movies... I suspect cheap and convenient legal alternatives are going to be the best bet, although my idea of 'cheap' is about $20 per month for all the content I can download. What would you pay to have everything on your computer be legal?

Redbeaver · 24th Jul 2007, 21:04

do none of u guys ever learn anything on business politics and marketing strategy? heck im an engineer graduate and i can still get it.

yes, they (finally) acknowledge that it doesnt work, and frankly, i bet u they've known it for a long time. but yet, they're still doing it. its just now they decided to go public and says, yes, we know, and yes, we'r still doing it.

why? it IS, "necessary in the bigger picture". i wont dwell on it further, but yes, i agree. think about it for a bit. to start with, try imagining that they NEVER try to pursue these pirates, then think that now they're saying "the best way to deal wit them is aggresive (marketing)" blablabla....

its no brilliant strategy, but still a valid one.

Cthippo · 25th Jul 2007, 02:01

Maybe RIAA will sue the Bush administration for pirating this "strategy" in Iraq

Drexial · 25th Jul 2007, 02:45

BWAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha ha ha ha....ha ....... ok it really wasnt that funny but still, these guys are retarded....

leexgx · 25th Jul 2007, 10:04

if thay did sue for X money thay Never buy music agane to justif them been sued for $2000

its randome luck if you get picked out if it happens once not likey to happen agane (that type of stuff has not happend in the UK yet, if your on BT broadband you get letters about that your shareing this x file and we sue you if you do not remove it heh but thats like 1 out of 1000-2000 files)

the music/TV/moive industry have been maga slow on taking up internet downloads

as i am on Virgin media {NTL cable} TV we have lost all basic sky chans now (brason did not want to pay up the exta cost sky wanted to charge) so i have to download my tv programs that are on sky one and others

Bungle · 25th Jul 2007, 17:15

Everytime I see a news article about the RIAA pursuit of Piracy I get a mental image of Arthur from Monty Python and the quest for the holy grail. Galloping around with coconuts trying to rally people to their cause. You've gotta feel sorry for them. The're a laughing stock.

HandMadeAndroid · 26th Jul 2007, 06:49

Who cares anyway, most music is rubbish, pushing some useless **** we don't need, or some whining kid going on about how he hates his parents and cant decide which cargo pants to buy. Ban music I say, increase the amount of prosecutions of down loaders, better still, reintroduce capital punishment for downloading music.

btw I don't care

24th Jul 2007, 13:03	#1
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24th Jul 2007, 13:05	#2
Korvaz Minimodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I live in beer Posts: 26	Well, there's no blood coming from that stone. Let's squeeze it a bit harder, perhaps.

24th Jul 2007, 14:06	#7
mmorgue Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mos Eisley, in the bar... Posts: 378	Seeing as how they [RIAA] have not offered a more meaningful alternative, nor come up with a business model that suits the consumer, what else can they? Apart from admit their current strategy is useless and simply pray on those that might actually cough up some ££ out of scare tactics...

24th Jul 2007, 17:24	#10
Bladestorm Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 682	The way I hear it most of the people when sued over it, settle out of court, for a good bit more than the music would have cost them legally, so chances are the legal crusade is making them money, even if it isn't neccessarily having much of an effect on piracy. __________________ Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 250x10 (1.475v) \| EVGA GTX 260 55nm SSC \| A8N-SLI Premium \| 2x(4GB) Corsair Twinx2048-PC3200C2 \| Asus Xonar DX \| Antec truepower 550w \| Akasa Eclipse-62 DDC12VPlus1, DD TDX, 3/8 tygon r3603 tubing, PA120.2, DD double floppy bay res

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24th Jul 2007, 18:09	#13
EmJay Supermodder Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 315	I wonder what would work - changing the music industry so their income is from live appearances, and music is essentially share-ware? Of course, we're only about half a step away from the same situation with movies... I suspect cheap and convenient legal alternatives are going to be the best bet, although my idea of 'cheap' is about $20 per month for all the content I can download. What would you pay to have everything on your computer be legal?

24th Jul 2007, 21:04	#14
Redbeaver Hypermodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ontario, CANADA Posts: 719	do none of u guys ever learn anything on business politics and marketing strategy? heck im an engineer graduate and i can still get it. yes, they (finally) acknowledge that it doesnt work, and frankly, i bet u they've known it for a long time. but yet, they're still doing it. its just now they decided to go public and says, yes, we know, and yes, we'r still doing it. why? it IS, "necessary in the bigger picture". i wont dwell on it further, but yes, i agree. think about it for a bit. to start with, try imagining that they NEVER try to pursue these pirates, then think that now they're saying "the best way to deal wit them is aggresive (marketing)" blablabla.... its no brilliant strategy, but still a valid one. __________________ Monita DFI NF4 Expert - X2 3800+ 2.925Ghz - 2x1Gb OCZ Gold XTC DDR500 - 2x eVGA 7900GT SLI - 2x80Gb Seagate 7200.9 [RAID-0 4k] - Enermax Liberty 500 - Vista Ultimate x86 - Silverstone Kublai [Modded] Keisha DFI BloodIron P35 - Q6600 3.6Ghz - 4x1Gb OCZ Gold XTC2 DDR2-800 - eVGA 8800GTS 640MB - 2x80Gb Seagate 7200.9 [RAID-0 4k] - OCZ GameXstream 700 - Vista Ultimate x86 - Silverstone TJ-06 [Modded] www.pecelayam.com

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Drexial Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 297	BWAHAHAHAHAHAhahaha ha ha ha....ha ....... ok it really wasnt that funny but still, these guys are retarded....

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25th Jul 2007, 17:15	#18
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HandMadeAndroid Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newcastle Posts: 125	Who cares anyway, most music is rubbish, pushing some useless **** we don't need, or some whining kid going on about how he hates his parents and cant decide which cargo pants to buy. Ban music I say, increase the amount of prosecutions of down loaders, better still, reintroduce capital punishment for downloading music. btw I don't care __________________ Give them cake