News Acer takes a swing at Vista

[Da Dego]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07...ing_at_vista/1

The world's fourth largest PC maker has said that the entire industry is disappointed with Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system.

[Ramble]

Maybe if Acer ran Vista on something that didn't have 256mb of RAM and a 2Ghz Celeron...

[Indybird]

Im going to have to use the article's words saying that vista is now the industry's scapegoat. I have vista and am having no real problems with it. Since I got it on it's release, I recommended to my friends. Two upgraded from XP and one used it for their PC build. None of them had any problems. Anyways, I just don't really think that the Acer guy can blame vista, cause no other companies are having problems. Though Dell was requested to still offer XP, they sell far more Vista systems now.

-Indybird

[Lucidity]

I like how everybody tries to blame Microsoft for not having their **** together. It isn't M$'s fault that people didn't bring out updated drivers in time, and it isn't their fault that people are building low end systems. The computer industry has known that Vista was coming for years and had over half a year to update their products to follow suit.

[MiNiMaL_FuSS]

unforatunately it's crap for gaming on, hence most people in the know are sticking ith XP, even the bittech staff said they were sticking with it for their games rig.

[TheVoice]

From the article:

"I really don't think that someone has bought a new PC specifically for Vista," he added.

Good, maybe common sense is finally becoming more...common. You'd have to be completely stupid to buy a new PC just to get the new OS.

[Indybird]

Originally Posted by MiNiMaL_FuSS

unforatunately it's crap for gaming on, hence most people in the know are sticking ith XP, even the bittech staff said they were sticking with it for their games rig.

Except for Call of Duty 2 and Battlefield 2, I didn't have any frame loss in any of my games.

[Da Dego]

Originally Posted by MiNiMaL_FuSS

unforatunately it's crap for gaming on, hence most people in the know are sticking ith XP, even the bittech staff said they were sticking with it for their games rig.

Actually, it's on my gaming rig I have 4GB of RAM, so I'm not too fussed that it takes up 1.

[proxess]

Not everyone can have a high end rig. As I've proven.

[supermonkey]

Originally Posted by Lucidity

It isn't M$'s Microsoft's fault that people didn't bring out updated drivers in time, and it isn't their fault that people are building low end systems.

It's fair enough if hardware manufacturers haven't produced compatible drivers in time, but I reject the idea that anyone should have to spend a bunch of money for a "high-end" system. My parents don't game. They don't edit video. They don't even do any kind of photo editing. They need a system that will run reliably and enable them to browse the internet and read e-mail.

They have every reason to spend less money to get a low-end system that does the job. Computer companies need to be able to offer low-end systems for people like my parents. They also need to be able to sell low- to middle-ground systems to buisnesses. A large corporation has no need for SLI graphics and quad-core processing with 4GB of RAM.

If Vista will run, and run reliably on low-end hardware, then fantastic. If not, then the Acer guy may have a point.

From what I've gathered among the multitude of stories out there, some folks are upset that Vista doesn't run very well on a basic, run-of-the-mill system unless you turn off all the bells and whistles, and strip down much of what makes Vista Vista. For all that, you might as well run XP.

On the other hand, I've also seen an equal number of reports that state quite the opposite: that the worst-case scenario is just that, the worst-case scenario. Some people on these forums have no problem running Vista.

-monkey

[Tim S]

I've got it running on my gaming rig too now... It took me time to pluck up the courage to convert though - my work machines are still running XP SP2.

[Perforated]

"Hey, a new OS is out!"
"Awesome! Nothing's our fault for a few months!"

That said, I agree with the high-end rig comments. Vista has a lot of things people really don't need - hell, I mostly use a 2k machine (I'm not a big gamer, I'm just here for the modding porn!) and I confess I don't yearn for an upgrade. Buying Vista would mean spending a LOT of money for very little real benefit.

[Saivert]

It seems Microsoft bet on that the world would upgrade all their computers and join the "WOW!".
That surely didn't happen. Not everybody can afford monster PCs and even though Vista supposedly runs on low-end gear with the infamous Aero turned off that is kind of a disappointment for most people given the fact that Microsoft has touted this as one of the great experiences of Vista. Security and a better kernel comes second when it comes to the "WOW" factor.
Acer is not alone when it comes to this. NVIDIA has too been concerned with Vista and have stated several times that Microsoft was not very helpful during the initial support of driver development pushing out several new BETA versions making driver developers start all over again slowing it down.

[capnPedro]

It's on my gaming rig too. But seeing as how I went from fairly mid range components to high end, even if I did have a 10% performance drop, I wouldn't notice it. And if it is there, I don't care if I'm going from 210fps to 198fps. Or whatever.

[pumpman]

acer have got a hard neck, has anyone tried speaking to their customer services lately, new acer laptop certain keys playing up and mouse going funny too, their answer try a restore , twats.

[GigantoR]

This seems like Acer looking for a scapegoat. I talked to the manager of a local BestBuy about some Acer laptops they had on sale for ridiculously low prices and he told me not to buy one. They were getting almost 50% of them returned due to hardware errors.

[Gravemind123]

I have a friend who's year old Acer laptop now refuses to work due to hardware issues. And for the most part Vista isn't the problem, companies are just being lazy rather then rewrite drivers for Vista when it's so much easier to just say "Vista = teh suck".

[SyxPak]

FreeBSD cheesecake

[Cthippo]

Originally Posted by supermonkey

It's fair enough if hardware manufacturers haven't produced compatible drivers in time, but I reject the idea that anyone should have to spend a bunch of money for a "high-end" system. My parents don't game. They don't edit video. They don't even do any kind of photo editing. They need a system that will run reliably and enable them to browse the internet and read e-mail.

They have every reason to spend less money to get a low-end system that does the job. Computer companies need to be able to offer low-end systems for people like my parents. They also need to be able to sell low- to middle-ground systems to buisnesses. A large corporation has no need for SLI graphics and quad-core processing with 4GB of RAM.

There is a name for people like that...

The majority.

Probably 70% of people will never run anything requiring more grunt than Office. They don't need 4 GB of memory and a modern video card, they just need a simple, basic machine that works (and preferably one they can't break easily). I think this is a tremendous opportunity for the open source community to step forward and hoover up a whole bunch of new users.

And for the record, Vista was the last straw for me. I'm primarily linux now and plan to stay that way! :Thumb:

EDIT: Woot! 2800!

[Tyinsar]

Originally Posted by TheVoice

...
Good, maybe common sense is finally becoming more...common. You'd have to be completely stupid to buy a new PC just to get the new OS.

- Unless the OS offered something new and greatly desired. Vista doesn't (yet), thus the "disappointment"
- Having said that, I agree with you: It's ridiculous for the industry to expect a new OS to increase sales - people buy computers for games / office / internet / CAD / ... - not for the OS (which simply hosts that other software).

Originally Posted by Cthippo

EDIT: Woot! 2800!

Congrats Spammer 8-P"""