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Tim S · 26th Jul 2007, 12:05

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07..._for_windows/1

Gaming moguls at id Software fall head over heels for Microsoft's new Games For Windows label, claiming it will help reduce piracy.

[USRF]Obiwan · 26th Jul 2007, 13:05

Microsoft live sounds all like steam to me...

But they are right about the piracy. There must be something done, or all will flea to "saver" consoles. leaving us and our elite gaming machines nothing else to do then some very quick notepad typing on a quadcore sli 8800GTX.

Well.. that would be a big downer. I can allready see the new bit-tech benchmarks nightmare:

word 2008 Word processing: (2400x1200 res, 16x, 16x, sli)
gts8800: ================ 500fps
gtx8800: ================ 500fps
Ati2900: ================ 500fps

Access 2008 (1.000.000 record fetching):
X2 6000+ : ============ 2,3 seconds
Q66600: ====== 0,4 seconds
E6850: ======= 0,6 seconds
(lower is better)

C-Sniper · 26th Jul 2007, 16:01

they need to start making games for linux damnit!

Nikumba · 26th Jul 2007, 17:15

Maybe they would if there was a unified programming API like DirectX

Kimbie

supermonkey · 26th Jul 2007, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikumba

Maybe they would if there was a unified programming API like DirectX

Kimbie

Don't they have OpenGL? Unless I'm mistaken, which is quite possible.

-monkey

devdevil85 · 26th Jul 2007, 17:48

OpenGL is harder to program for....or so I've heard....there's less assistance, in terms of troubleshooting.....

Also, Games For Windows, to me atleast, is making PC gaming seem almost less 3rd party and making it almost 360ish in terms of having Windows emblem all over the game.... either way I like knowing that M$ is trying to get decent games to the PC and bringing with them DX10, but tbh the lineup kinda sux especially when they include Ratatouille as one of them....anyways I hope GFW can become more than what it is currently showing...

Gravemind123 · 26th Jul 2007, 19:12

If Gears of War becomes a Games for Windows title they might have something going for them then. What they really need to get this type of program jumpstarted is to make a game for it that is not just a console port or has a console equivelant unlike the 2 ones I think of for this program being Shadowrun and Halo 2.

devdevil85 · 26th Jul 2007, 21:27

/\ Crysis maybe?

Max Spain · 26th Jul 2007, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Sniper

they need to start making games for linux damnit!

The funny thing here is that id has generally made it a point to have all of their games run natively on linux. I guess this Tim Willits guy isn't one of the linux users over at id

Bladestorm · 26th Jul 2007, 23:18

I can see why ID would have a bee in their collective bonnet about piracy, I understand that Doom3 had something like a million illegal downloads the day before it hit shelves and was amongst the most pirated games ever, though at the same time I can't shake the feeling that the game was extremely attractive to that, not because it was the best thing ever, but mostly because a ludicrous number of people wanted to see what the fuss was about but weren't nearly bothered enough to have gone out and actually bought it had no piracy options been available.

Games for windows sounds good in theory - setting a benchmark for quality and enforcing adherence to it, but it has yet to excite me in practise and I'm not the least bit bothered about live right now, especially with subscription fees.

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[USRF]Obiwan Ultramodder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,220	Microsoft live sounds all like steam to me... But they are right about the piracy. There must be something done, or all will flea to "saver" consoles. leaving us and our elite gaming machines nothing else to do then some very quick notepad typing on a quadcore sli 8800GTX. Well.. that would be a big downer. I can allready see the new bit-tech benchmarks nightmare: word 2008 Word processing: (2400x1200 res, 16x, 16x, sli) gts8800: ================ 500fps gtx8800: ================ 500fps Ati2900: ================ 500fps Access 2008 (1.000.000 record fetching): X2 6000+ : ============ 2,3 seconds Q66600: ====== 0,4 seconds E6850: ======= 0,6 seconds (lower is better) __________________ Mascleta: "The most accurate simulation of thunder, humans can simulate..." The answer is 42, so... whats the question again? If you know what 'Peek' and 'Poke' represents, then you are probably as old as me.

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26th Jul 2007, 23:18	#10
Bladestorm Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 682	I can see why ID would have a bee in their collective bonnet about piracy, I understand that Doom3 had something like a million illegal downloads the day before it hit shelves and was amongst the most pirated games ever, though at the same time I can't shake the feeling that the game was extremely attractive to that, not because it was the best thing ever, but mostly because a ludicrous number of people wanted to see what the fuss was about but weren't nearly bothered enough to have gone out and actually bought it had no piracy options been available. Games for windows sounds good in theory - setting a benchmark for quality and enforcing adherence to it, but it has yet to excite me in practise and I'm not the least bit bothered about live right now, especially with subscription fees. __________________ Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 250x10 (1.475v) \| EVGA GTX 260 55nm SSC \| A8N-SLI Premium \| 2x(4GB) Corsair Twinx2048-PC3200C2 \| Asus Xonar DX \| Antec truepower 550w \| Akasa Eclipse-62 DDC12VPlus1, DD TDX, 3/8 tygon r3603 tubing, PA120.2, DD double floppy bay res

26th Jul 2007, 17:15	#4
Nikumba Supermodder Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Dark Place Posts: 371	Maybe they would if there was a unified programming API like DirectX Kimbie

26th Jul 2007, 17:48	#6
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	OpenGL is harder to program for....or so I've heard....there's less assistance, in terms of troubleshooting..... Also, Games For Windows, to me atleast, is making PC gaming seem almost less 3rd party and making it almost 360ish in terms of having Windows emblem all over the game.... either way I like knowing that M$ is trying to get decent games to the PC and bringing with them DX10, but tbh the lineup kinda sux especially when they include Ratatouille as one of them....anyways I hope GFW can become more than what it is currently showing...

26th Jul 2007, 21:27	#8
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	/\ Crysis maybe?