YouTube to filter out pirated video by September - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 29th Jul 2007, 12:41

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07...by_september/1

A Google lawyer told a US District Court on Friday that YouTube hopes to launch a new piracy prevention system in September.

Almightyrastus · 29th Jul 2007, 13:06

Great....... this means that Youtube will only be host to poorly done phone cam clips of irritating little girls who think they can dance and wannabes who are under the delusion they can sing, either that or video bloggers who bore us with their dreary lives and pointless opinions.

Phil Rhodes · 29th Jul 2007, 13:23

Quite.

I believe this period will probably be remembered as the time a major commercial bloc has ever looked at a market screaming for its wares and said "Eh... no thanks."

Phil

Lazarus Dark · 29th Jul 2007, 13:29

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lawyers representing the copyright owners suing the video sharing site said that they would welcome any improvement that prevents copyright infringement.

Not likely. If in fact all "copyright infringement" was stopped, lawyers and companies who make their money from lawsuits would not be happy. Lawsuits are big buisiness. I doubt any of these companies really want what they say they want. They want money and these lawsuits make more money than their actual products.

Particle Man · 29th Jul 2007, 13:42

I just wish the American Justice system would say enough is enough and quit allowing these kinda of lawsuits. It's really getting old, there's no way to stop it.

I saw an article recently showing evidence that, since the RIAA started filing lawsuits agianst people for downloading music, the number of people downloading has actually increased. And by a rather large margin.

Breach · 29th Jul 2007, 14:07

I dont see why they bother, it will be circumvented with ease as any kind of DRM or other copy protection. I think it is time the video and music markets get with the times and come up with something new that doesn't involve suing their own customers.

francisl1420 · 29th Jul 2007, 14:26

As soon as they stop one site hosting pirated stuff, it'll pop up two other sites.

completemadness · 29th Jul 2007, 16:29

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Originally Posted by francisl1420

As soon as they stop one site hosting pirated stuff, it'll pop up two other sites.

QFT - people will always find a way around this stuff, if its not another site, probably just a way to get round the blocking system in you tube (perhaps a watermark on the film would break it ?)

Amon · 29th Jul 2007, 17:58

Bummer. They started cracking down on all the Best Motoring videos... those DVDs are expensive to import!

FooSai · 29th Jul 2007, 18:17

Wonder what effect this will have on things like remix clips. I don't have a problem with them pulling down full movies and TV shows, but there are plenty of videos where copyrighted material has been used for backing music, small segments of video. Will this new system pull things like that off?

Phil Rhodes · 29th Jul 2007, 18:23

If they start doing image recognition on all the files, then that could actually be quite difficult to circumvent. It would also be massively expensive (in terms of processor and storage) to implement.

Phil

Joeymac · 29th Jul 2007, 22:41

What kind of image recognition could they implement though? Are they going to look for all famous people's faces and then check if they are in the clips??
I don't see they could do much more than analyse the source of the video.. camera phones and DV video will have a different look and "digital signature" from film.. but with everyone transcoding everything and TV mostly done in DV nowadays....is any of that going to possibly work?
How are they going to do it?

DXR_13KE · 29th Jul 2007, 23:40

bye bye AMVs, snips of movies and decent videos.... this will be the demise of youtube....

proxess · 30th Jul 2007, 00:47

"We control what videos you watch. We control where you navigate. We control what shows up on your screen. We control you!" Welcome to the land of the free!

Havok154 · 30th Jul 2007, 03:45

I can't wait till the day the entertainment industry goes bankrupt and they wonder where they went wrong.

Phil Rhodes · 30th Jul 2007, 23:28

All they can do is keep clips of material they want to protect, and do some very, very fuzzy pattern matching on it.

Which is going to cost a fortune.

Phil

29th Jul 2007, 12:41	#1
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29th Jul 2007, 13:23	#3
Phil Rhodes Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 574	Quite. I believe this period will probably be remembered as the time a major commercial bloc has ever looked at a market screaming for its wares and said "Eh... no thanks." Phil

29th Jul 2007, 14:26	#7
francisl1420 Modder Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 56	As soon as they stop one site hosting pirated stuff, it'll pop up two other sites.

29th Jul 2007, 18:17	#10
FooSai Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK Posts: 70	Wonder what effect this will have on things like remix clips. I don't have a problem with them pulling down full movies and TV shows, but there are plenty of videos where copyrighted material has been used for backing music, small segments of video. Will this new system pull things like that off?

29th Jul 2007, 18:23	#11
Phil Rhodes Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 574	If they start doing image recognition on all the files, then that could actually be quite difficult to circumvent. It would also be massively expensive (in terms of processor and storage) to implement. Phil

29th Jul 2007, 22:41	#12
Joeymac Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 221	What kind of image recognition could they implement though? Are they going to look for all famous people's faces and then check if they are in the clips?? I don't see they could do much more than analyse the source of the video.. camera phones and DV video will have a different look and "digital signature" from film.. but with everyone transcoding everything and TV mostly done in DV nowadays....is any of that going to possibly work? How are they going to do it?

29th Jul 2007, 23:40	#13
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,466	bye bye AMVs, snips of movies and decent videos.... this will be the demise of youtube.... __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

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30th Jul 2007, 03:45	#15
Havok154 Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 79	I can't wait till the day the entertainment industry goes bankrupt and they wonder where they went wrong.

30th Jul 2007, 23:28	#16
Phil Rhodes Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 574	All they can do is keep clips of material they want to protect, and do some very, very fuzzy pattern matching on it. Which is going to cost a fortune. Phil