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Tim S · 31st Jul 2007, 14:07

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/07...d_as_it_gets/1

Mark Rein, VP of Epic, reckons that DX10 won't see major adoption thanks to the thriving console market and that Crysis will be the pinnacle of gaming for years to come.

DougEdey · 31st Jul 2007, 14:11

I'm willing to bet this is going to be an "eat my own hat" quote. Someone probably said a similar thing with DX9. Like the "3 computer" quote.

Mark Rein is a genius in his own games. But I don't understand why he doesn't promote UE3 rather then Crysis.

Jack_Pepsi · 31st Jul 2007, 14:17

As Joe said in the article...

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Originally Posted by Joe Martin

Still, I suppose having a pause in graphical advancements could be a good thing if it forces developers to focus on other technological and gameplay issues.

... I freaking hope so! We're still using bloody 32bit and how long have we been buying 64bit CPUs? Bloody consoles! >.<

Bursar · 31st Jul 2007, 14:19

If DX10 doesn't take off, then surely that will spell the end of the GPU race. There won't be any need to develop faster and more complicated GPUs as they will set there mostly unutilised.

Even if game interfaces are "dumbed down" for consoles, people will still want the spangly graphics and wizzy effects. In fact, there are a large number of games that seem to get by on that alone!

DX10 seems to have been a bit of a slow starter, but given the large number of games that are due out later in the year, I reckon it'll be picking up pace pretty quickly

samkiller42 · 31st Jul 2007, 14:23

I think Crysis will be the best looking game this year, but not for the next 5 years. It also depends on what you think is a "good looking" game, as well as the type of game. I thought C&C Generals was a good looking game, but its an RTS, but im sure there was some one else who thought there was a better looking game, which might have been a FPS, its all down to personal opinion at the end of the day.

Sam

DougEdey · 31st Jul 2007, 14:23

Consoles have been 64-bit for longer then PC's. GPUs have been 128bit aswell.

Vergil_117 · 31st Jul 2007, 15:14

People listen to mark today? I remember when everyone booed and dissed him for his idiotic remarks.

Bauul · 31st Jul 2007, 15:28

I don't think he's right, I think developers will always be looking to continue to out-do each other in terms of graphics and looks of games. Also remember that even though the technology in a console is fixed, games do get better looking graphically as time goes on during a console's life, and the developers get better at cramming better graphics into the same internals. In much the same way films, even after a hundred years, are still striving for better effects, so too will games.

msm722 · 31st Jul 2007, 15:40

I wonder what the UT4 engine (2 years into development) will bring, if mark rein thinks this.

Hells_Bliss · 31st Jul 2007, 15:42

I'd like to see 64 bit games, and crysis does have amazing graphics, so I wouldn't be sad if they started using the crysis engine, or a similar level of graphics in computer games, especially if they start using the time to optimize their code and stop releasing crappy products for the PC.

I don't see software makers blocking themselves into just dx10 games just yet, since it only runs on Vista, and vista hasn't really been adopted yet by the majority of consumers. They're out to make money too

F T W is blocked? lol i can't type sof.t.w.are anymore?

revlob · 31st Jul 2007, 15:48

Executive-type in "our game is the best" shocker.

But seriously, he does have a point. There's not much to stand in the way of the progression of technology, and the potential to create better-looking games, but it's getting more and more expensive and risky to develop games with cutting-edge visuals.

devdevil85 · 31st Jul 2007, 15:56

Honestly, check out what the MGS4 gameplay demo looks like and you'll see that the next-gen games on the console (or the PS3 atleast) will look superior to what's currently available on the PC....but once Crysis debuts and consumers see the the reason to buy the hardware, and then game developers see that the hardware is selling then DX10 will go mainstream and GPUs will continue to progress and we the PC gamers will be up to our heads in graphical prowess, and Mr. Rein's quote will be splat all across the forums....

P.S. I like Joe's statement about Project Offset....I mean just look at that game....Crysis won't last long at the top...but it will be the best for a good while....

Da_Rude_Baboon · 31st Jul 2007, 16:00

With AMD, Nvidia and Microsoft pushing DX10 of course it will take off.

CardJoe · 31st Jul 2007, 16:05

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Originally Posted by devdevil85

Honestly, check out what the MGS4 gameplay demo looks like and you'll see that the next-gen games on the console (or the PS3 atleast) will look superior to what's currently available on the PC....but once Crysis debuts and consumers see the the reason to buy the hardware, and then game developers see that the hardware is selling then DX10 will go mainstream and GPUs will continue to progress and we the PC gamers will be up to our heads in graphical prowess, and Mr. Rein's quote will be splat all across the forums....

P.S. I like Joe's statement about Project Offset....I mean just look at that game....Crysis won't last long at the top...but it will be the best for a good while....

We agree again! What happened to our constant PS3 arguements?!

naokaji · 31st Jul 2007, 16:18

how much did sony pay him? honestly.... that stuff sounds like its coming directly from ps3 marketing department....

Vergil_117 · 31st Jul 2007, 16:18

everyone forgets alan wake (I find that game 10 times better looking than crysis, one reason being the massive draw distances, and it actully looking "real" and not as if it were a video game)

devdevil85 · 31st Jul 2007, 16:57

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Originally Posted by naokaji

how much did sony pay him? honestly.... that stuff sounds like its coming directly from ps3 marketing department....

How about they sold me on their console's abilities and then MGS4's graphics! Seriously, I'm getting tired of being called a fanboy when I'm just a guy who loves innovation and who will never own a console in his life (other than the Wii).....not to be mean, but seriously stfu and stop referring me to that....I mean to be completely truthful you might as well just call me an overly fanatic PC fanboy because I'm more crazy for DX10 & Crysis/Project Offset.......

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Originally Posted by CardJoe

We agree again! What happened to our constant PS3 arguements?!

/\...as you can see I'm getting tired of it...also Joe there are multiple things that we have in common, and tbh as long as you respect the PS3 as a console and not because of Sony's mistakes or it's crazy pricetag, I'm fine with it...because even if the PS3 was the greatest thing since sliced bread, the games are what matters and if the games are lacking, either in the gameplay, graphical or innovative levels, I would NOT buy one...so...I hope that explains my perception on it...

CardJoe · 31st Jul 2007, 17:06

@DevDevil

Sorry to rile you up - was only poking fun a little and didn't mean to cause offense

Ramble · 31st Jul 2007, 17:15

Is he crazy? Can he not see the massive amount of new titles coming this fall?

devdevil85 · 31st Jul 2007, 17:25

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Originally Posted by CardJoe

@DevDevil

Sorry to rile you up - was only poking fun a little and didn't mean to cause offense

Joe you're fine man, it's the guy above that I can't stand...

31st Jul 2007, 14:07	#1
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31st Jul 2007, 14:11	#2
DougEdey I pwn all your storage Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southampton Posts: 13,933	I'm willing to bet this is going to be an "eat my own hat" quote. Someone probably said a similar thing with DX9. Like the "3 computer" quote. Mark Rein is a genius in his own games. But I don't understand why he doesn't promote UE3 rather then Crysis. __________________ Burnout: Paradise Stats!XBL: DougEdey Bindi PSN ID: DougEdey Twitter

31st Jul 2007, 14:19	#4
Bursar Hypermodder Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 700	If DX10 doesn't take off, then surely that will spell the end of the GPU race. There won't be any need to develop faster and more complicated GPUs as they will set there mostly unutilised. Even if game interfaces are "dumbed down" for consoles, people will still want the spangly graphics and wizzy effects. In fact, there are a large number of games that seem to get by on that alone! DX10 seems to have been a bit of a slow starter, but given the large number of games that are due out later in the year, I reckon it'll be picking up pace pretty quickly __________________ www.philspcmods.com - a rough guide

31st Jul 2007, 14:23	#5
samkiller42 KEEP IT CLEAN! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Havant, Hampshire, England Posts: 3,193	I think Crysis will be the best looking game this year, but not for the next 5 years. It also depends on what you think is a "good looking" game, as well as the type of game. I thought C&C Generals was a good looking game, but its an RTS, but im sure there was some one else who thought there was a better looking game, which might have been a FPS, its all down to personal opinion at the end of the day. Sam __________________ The Rig: i7 920 D0, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 12GB DDR3 1600mhz, BFG GTX295, Samsung 64gb SSD, WD 640gb Black, Samsung F2 Eco 1TB, Dell 3007WFP, Windows 7 RC. The Netbook: Samsung NC10 Black, Intel Atom, 2gb DDR2 The Mac: Awaiting Delivery

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Vergil_117 Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 71	People listen to mark today? I remember when everyone booed and dissed him for his idiotic remarks.

31st Jul 2007, 15:28	#8
Bauul Sir Bongaminge Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Godalming, near Guildford Posts: 1,553	I don't think he's right, I think developers will always be looking to continue to out-do each other in terms of graphics and looks of games. Also remember that even though the technology in a console is fixed, games do get better looking graphically as time goes on during a console's life, and the developers get better at cramming better graphics into the same internals. In much the same way films, even after a hundred years, are still striving for better effects, so too will games. __________________ Pentium 4 CPU 3.4 Ghz \| 1Gb + 2x512Mb Corsair DDR2 667 Mhz Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 512Mb\| WD Raptor 36Gb, Seagate 300Gb \| Asus P5LD2 SE Ibanez RG 470 Japanese Edition \| 1991 Japanese Lo-TRS Tremolo \| V7 S1 Custom V8 HSH Pickups

31st Jul 2007, 15:40	#9
msm722 Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 77	I wonder what the UT4 engine (2 years into development) will bring, if mark rein thinks this.

31st Jul 2007, 15:42	#10
Hells_Bliss Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NC, USA Posts: 548	I'd like to see 64 bit games, and crysis does have amazing graphics, so I wouldn't be sad if they started using the crysis engine, or a similar level of graphics in computer games, especially if they start using the time to optimize their code and stop releasing crappy products for the PC. I don't see software makers blocking themselves into just dx10 games just yet, since it only runs on Vista, and vista hasn't really been adopted yet by the majority of consumers. They're out to make money too F T W is blocked? lol i can't type sof.t.w.are anymore? __________________ Asus P5N32-SLi Extreme, Intel Conroe E6600 @ 2.4GHz, 4GB Corsair XMS2 @ 1060MHz, eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX @ 621MHz, 2 WD 250GB 7200RPM HDD's, Creative Soundblaster Fatal1ty pro

31st Jul 2007, 15:48	#11
revlob Modder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 58	Executive-type in "our game is the best" shocker. But seriously, he does have a point. There's not much to stand in the way of the progression of technology, and the potential to create better-looking games, but it's getting more and more expensive and risky to develop games with cutting-edge visuals.

31st Jul 2007, 15:56	#12
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	Honestly, check out what the MGS4 gameplay demo looks like and you'll see that the next-gen games on the console (or the PS3 atleast) will look superior to what's currently available on the PC....but once Crysis debuts and consumers see the the reason to buy the hardware, and then game developers see that the hardware is selling then DX10 will go mainstream and GPUs will continue to progress and we the PC gamers will be up to our heads in graphical prowess, and Mr. Rein's quote will be splat all across the forums.... P.S. I like Joe's statement about Project Offset....I mean just look at that game....Crysis won't last long at the top...but it will be the best for a good while.... Last edited by devdevil85; 31st Jul 2007 at 16:03.

31st Jul 2007, 16:00	#13
Da_Rude_Baboon Ultramodder Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 1,386	With AMD, Nvidia and Microsoft pushing DX10 of course it will take off.

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naokaji whatever Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,879	how much did sony pay him? honestly.... that stuff sounds like its coming directly from ps3 marketing department....

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