The format war marches on... - bit-tech.net Forums

Da Dego · 1st Aug 2007, 15:54

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08...ars_march_on/1

As consumers sit back and wait for a winner to emerge in the format wars, big corporations are now deciding for you.

will. · 1st Aug 2007, 16:03

/mental arithmatic *start > calculator > 3700 / 200 = 18.5*

£18.50 a disc..... You have to be kidding....

Actually, I remember when DVDR's were more than that...

cjoyce1980 · 1st Aug 2007, 16:29

like most, i'm not getting rid of my dvd's just yet until the prices are affordable and the winner is obvious. but seeing as nearly 70% of dvd sold in the state are adult. blu-ray's life might be short lived, silly sony! you want to win don't you?!

p.s. in places like gamestation and asda, i've seen hd-dvd's and blu-ray disc for as cheap as Â£10.

identikit · 1st Aug 2007, 16:39

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Originally Posted by cjoyce1980

like most, i'm not getting rid of my dvd's just yet until the prices are affordable and the winner is obvious. but seeing as nearly 70% of dvd sold in the state are adult. blu-ray's life might be short lived, silly sony! you want to win don't you?!

p.s. in places like gamestation and asda, i've seen hd-dvd's and blu-ray disc for as cheap as Â£10.

Best viral marketing ever.

DougEdey · 1st Aug 2007, 16:43

Don't care about the format wars untill they become affordable

dognosh · 1st Aug 2007, 16:45

seeing as my laptop came equipped with the first release of Blu-Ray all I can say is "Go Blu-Ray Go"

Tim S · 1st Aug 2007, 16:49

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Originally Posted by DougEdey

Article is wrong, Sony are helping Japanese adult movies move to Blu-ray

If you re-read what was actually written... Sony doesn't allow adult content to be manufactured in its own production facilities but WILL SUPPORT anyone that wants to print the discs in other production facilities.

Firehed · 1st Aug 2007, 16:56

Meh, whatever. I'm not investing in either until one wins. I'm partial to HD-DVD as a video format simply because I hate sony and all of their royalties (among other things) and really don't care that much in terms of portable storage with the size of thumb drives for the price and the amount of storage space I've got with my web server host. At the end of the day, it's almost certainly going to be whichever one is the first out with a $199 or less player.

yodasarmpit · 1st Aug 2007, 16:56

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Originally Posted by Tim S

If you re-read what was actually written... Sony doesn't allow adult content to be manufactured in its own production facilities but WILL SUPPORT anyone that wants to print the discs in other production facilities.

Which conveniently allows Sony to take the moral highground, and still have the largest media market produce movies on Sony's format.

I'll be waiting until the format war is over before buying into either.

DougEdey · 1st Aug 2007, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Tim S

If you re-read what was actually written... Sony doesn't allow adult content to be manufactured in its own production facilities but WILL SUPPORT anyone that wants to print the discs in other production facilities.

I did re-read, and I edited before your post

Tim S · 1st Aug 2007, 17:00

DougEdey · 1st Aug 2007, 17:03

Don't Sony own all production facilities anyway?

Tim S · 1st Aug 2007, 17:10

I don't think Sony does... I think the reasoning behind that decision is that Disney (for example) doesn't want its discs printed in the same factory as the same factory where discs of <insert favourite pornstar> getting a good stuffing are made.

E.E.L. Ambiense · 1st Aug 2007, 17:11

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Originally Posted by Firehed

...it's almost certainly going to be whichever one is the first out with a $199 or less player.

Which would be HD-DVD. Last time I talked to my pop, he had snagged a Tosh from Crutchfield, because they dropped the price below 200. He said that was the magic number for him. lol.

Personally, I'm partial to Blu-Ray simply because it's a step in another direction and has room for growth in the future as opposed to building on existing tech. Just my $.02. Don't wanna start another one of those annoying pissing-contest debates over this stuff!

Joeymac · 1st Aug 2007, 17:39

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Originally Posted by E.E.L. Ambiense

Which would be HD-DVD. Last time I talked to my pop, he had snagged a Tosh from Crutchfield, because they dropped the price below 200. He said that was the magic number for him. lol.

Personally, I'm partial to Blu-Ray simply because it's a step in another direction and has room for growth in the future as opposed to building on existing tech. Just my $.02. Don't wanna start another one of those annoying pissing-contest debates over this stuff!

The tech is the same, they both use the same lasers and whatnot... just Blu-Ray has a thinner coating and is one piece of plastic (like a CD - hench it can't do dual sides) and HD DVD has kept with the two pieces of plastic (like DVD - can do dual sides). The thinner coating allows for tighter focus on the laser.
Neither is "more advanced" technologically speaking.

Bungle · 1st Aug 2007, 17:49

Side tracking a bit. Just curious as to how many people update their film collection everytime a new format or version of the films they like comes out. I bought about 20 or so films on DVD which I had on VHS but I don't reckon I'll be doing the same for blu-ray or the other geezer.

DougEdey · 1st Aug 2007, 17:50

There was a spate of blu-rot though

identikit · 1st Aug 2007, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Bungle

Side tracking a bit. Just curious as to how many people update their film collection everytime a new format or version of the films they like comes out. I bought about 20 or so films on DVD which I had on VHS but I don't reckon I'll be doing the same for blu-ray or the other geezer.

It would be insanely expensive to do so with HD-DVD and BR. I only tend to buy movies I already have on VHS because of sales or for extra content and director cuts.

Also how many people are waiting until 'the war' is over? This can't be good for the market if consumers aren't buying anything but DVDs. I'm probably going to buy a PS3 when I move house, so I'm in the Blu-Ray camp and I couldn't care less about the 'format war'.

E.E.L. Ambiense · 1st Aug 2007, 17:56

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Originally Posted by Joeymac

The tech is the same, they both use the same lasers and whatnot... just Blu-Ray has a thinner coating and is one piece of plastic (like a CD - hench it can't do dual sides) and HD DVD has kept with the two pieces of plastic (like DVD - can do dual sides). The thinner coating allows for tighter focus on the laser.
Neither is "more advanced" technologically speaking.

True. I merely meant as in using new manufacturing techniques instead of building upon existing formats, i.e. DVD. Hard to explain.

pendragon · 1st Aug 2007, 18:21

unless someone buys me new a new player or a ginormous TV, I don't think I'll buy either brand disc. More of a wait-n-see approach at this moment.

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