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Tim S · 9th Aug 2007, 11:56

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08..._performance/1

Microsoft has released two Windows Vista updates that address compatibility, performance, and reliability problems.

samkiller42 · 9th Aug 2007, 12:12

Why on gods earth do they not appear on the Windows Update program in windows? Its a bit daft if you ask me.

Sam

Brooxy · 9th Aug 2007, 12:24

Meh, I ended my affair with Vista yesterday...I'll install it on my laptop but for the rig, it's back on XP.

Sam, while I think about it, we got another Vista code on MSDNAA, just go to purchase the x64 edition

iwog · 9th Aug 2007, 12:28

I dont have any complaints with vista so far, as all the problems i'm experiencing are the fault of my sick mobo. Although i have noticed that the file transfer was kinda slow.

rupbert · 9th Aug 2007, 12:30

It has definately improved my file transfers, it always sat on 'Calculating...' for ages.

perplekks45 · 9th Aug 2007, 12:35

I gave up on Vista long time ago... We get our Vista from MSDNAA so I thought "Why not give it a try?" But then again I wanted XP so dual-booting. The boot manager became a problem once I got rid of Vista as many might have experienced.
So is Vista actually as fast, stable and reliable as XP? Should I as a close-to-hardcore gamer change? And no dual-booting.

Woodstock · 9th Aug 2007, 12:55

MSDNAA cheesecake lol, what is idle memory usage like now then, i used to idle at about 800mb used reformatted thou... ok who decided f-t-w to become cheesecake

Delphium · 9th Aug 2007, 13:00

Tbh could do with a patch that brings more life into audio, in particular surround sound in games and other music applications that use multiple audio channels, like Traktor DJ.

Laitainion · 9th Aug 2007, 13:48

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Originally Posted by Delphium

Tbh could do with a patch that brings more life into audio, in particular surround sound in games and other music applications that use multiple audio channels, like Traktor DJ.

Yeah, the audio thing is the only reason I'm not using Vista right now. While I *do* like the new way you can change the volume of individual applications, and generally the sound is better there are still occaisionally crackles. I don't know if that's Vista (I was using a 'trial' version of 64bit Ultimate) or the drivers for my X-Fi. If it was Vista, I would have thought it would have improved by now. As audio was the biggest complaint I had during the beta testing phase, a lot of games I played the sound would start to crackle, and get worse the longer I played.

That and Civ4 Beyond the Sword tripping UAC (unlike Civ4 Vanilland & Warlords).

samkiller42 · 9th Aug 2007, 13:50

I have 4gb of RAM and im using Business x64, my memory usage is at 37% or 1500MB out of 4093MB. I have to say, it is stable and very fast for myself, and yes, i like it alot, and i wont be going back to XP.
@Brooxy, i know, ive got both keys, 64bit is on the Tower while the other key is on the beasty lappy which again is stable and very nippy even with 1gb of ram.

Sam

Delphium · 9th Aug 2007, 14:01

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Originally Posted by Laitainion

As audio was the biggest complaint I had during the beta testing phase, a lot of games I played the sound would start to crackle, and get worse the longer I played.

I think myself lucky to have stereo audio wihout crackle then :/

Allthough my freind had the same stereo audio issue on his X-Fi we did not notice any crackling, due to OS and drivers now being RTM and not beta?

DougEdey · 9th Aug 2007, 14:12

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Originally Posted by Woodstock

MSDNAA cheesecake lol, what is idle memory usage like now then, i used to idle at about 800mb used reformatted thou... ok who decided f-t-w to become cheesecake

GAH! THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM!

RAM is there to be used, not sit unused!

quack · 9th Aug 2007, 14:12

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Originally Posted by samkiller42

Why on gods earth do they not appear on the Windows Update program in windows? Its a bit daft if you ask me.

Sam

Because they haven't been released to Windows Update yet. Wait until the next Patch Tuesday - August 14th.

perplekks45 · 9th Aug 2007, 14:14

XP idles @ <200 so what the hell you need to run in the background to reach 1.5GB?

One question though: Which version should I go for? Business 32? 64? Or Ultimate 32? 64?

DougEdey · 9th Aug 2007, 14:18

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Originally Posted by aon`aTv.gsus666

XP idles @ <200 so what the hell you need to run in the background to reach 1.5GB?

Vista USES your RAM! It's what it's there for. It stores data in the RAM after it's been used so that if you want it again your data is there and available quickly!

Linux has done it for decades, my linux indicates the 80% of my RAM is in use at any point in time.

mashles · 9th Aug 2007, 14:42

well ive been using vista at home since january, and vista at work since may. Love it. Simple as that. Although i do turn UAC, superfetch, indexing, defender and automatic defragging off.

RTT · 9th Aug 2007, 14:45

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Originally Posted by DougEdey

Vista USES your RAM! It's what it's there for. It stores data in the RAM after it's been used so that if you want it again your data is there and available quickly!

You'd think it would be obvious really wouldn't you?

DougEdey · 9th Aug 2007, 14:48

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Originally Posted by RTT

You'd think it would be obvious really wouldn't you?

It gets on my tits, people have been lulled into the "Use less RAM" because Microsoft had crap memory management!

Misiowiec · 9th Aug 2007, 14:49

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Originally Posted by samkiller42

I have 4gb of RAM and im using Business x64, my memory usage is at 37% or 1500MB out of 4093MB. I have to say, it is stable and very fast for myself, and yes, i like it alot, and i wont be going back to XP.
@Brooxy, i know, ive got both keys, 64bit is on the Tower while the other key is on the beasty lappy which again is stable and very nippy even with 1gb of ram.

Sam

Please people, this must have been said about a thousand times accross the community. A large chunk of Vista's memory usage is due to precaching technologies which store data for future use...

Ramble · 9th Aug 2007, 15:00

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Originally Posted by mashles

well ive been using vista at home since january, and vista at work since may. Love it. Simple as that. Although i do turn UAC, superfetch, indexing, defender and automatic defragging off.

I myself turn defender and defrag off but I recommend you turn the rest back on. With indexing you're disabling one of the best features of Vista. Superfetch increases responsiveness and UAC, my God don't turn it off, I can't stress how much of a bad idea it is to run every process with admin priviledges. You can disable the prompt if you so desire but turn UAC back on.

EDIT: For those like me who installed the leaked beta patches a few weeks ago, they're exactly the same as this version.

9th Aug 2007, 11:56	#1
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perplekks45 BSc... finally Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,346	I gave up on Vista long time ago... We get our Vista from MSDNAA so I thought "Why not give it a try?" But then again I wanted XP so dual-booting. The boot manager became a problem once I got rid of Vista as many might have experienced. So is Vista actually as fast, stable and reliable as XP? Should I as a close-to-hardcore gamer change? And no dual-booting. __________________ "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." Blame it on Cheaps! [now a social group]

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rupbert Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 799	It has definately improved my file transfers, it always sat on 'Calculating...' for ages.

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samkiller42 KEEP IT CLEAN! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Havant, Hampshire, England Posts: 3,183	I have 4gb of RAM and im using Business x64, my memory usage is at 37% or 1500MB out of 4093MB. I have to say, it is stable and very fast for myself, and yes, i like it alot, and i wont be going back to XP. @Brooxy, i know, ive got both keys, 64bit is on the Tower while the other key is on the beasty lappy which again is stable and very nippy even with 1gb of ram. Sam __________________ The Rig: i7 920 D0, Gigabyte EX58-UD5, 12GB DDR3 1600mhz, BFG GTX295, Samsung 64gb SSD, WD 640gb Black, Samsung F2 Eco 1TB, Dell 3007WFP, Windows 7 RC. The Netbook: Samsung NC10 Black, Intel Atom, 2gb DDR2 Xbox Live: samkiller42¦PSN: samkiller42¦Bungie: samkiller42

9th Aug 2007, 14:14	#14
perplekks45 BSc... finally Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,346	XP idles @ <200 so what the hell you need to run in the background to reach 1.5GB? One question though: Which version should I go for? Business 32? 64? Or Ultimate 32? 64? __________________ "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." Blame it on Cheaps! [now a social group]

9th Aug 2007, 14:42	#16
mashles Minimodder Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 20	well ive been using vista at home since january, and vista at work since may. Love it. Simple as that. Although i do turn UAC, superfetch, indexing, defender and automatic defragging off.