Epic won't make a PS3 UT3 demo - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 28th Aug 2007, 13:37

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08...ps3_ut3_demo/1

Epic's head honcho, Mark Rein, tells us that there won't be a UT3 demo for the PS3 because Epic is too damn busy. PC demo though? No problem.

, frankly

AlexB · 28th Aug 2007, 13:38

well, i've not got time to buy it then.

naokaji · 28th Aug 2007, 13:41

no ps3 demo but a pc demo? sounds rather strange.. especially considering mark's anti pc but pro consoles statements a while back....

anyway.. i'm happy about... i'll always prefer the pc over consoles.

iwog · 28th Aug 2007, 13:43

How about they want the game to be as perfect and bug free as possible so why are we obsessed with demos when they can harm the games development? And to all the PS3 owners, sucks to be you atm, as it sucks to be 360 own with your red ring and us PC owners with lack of new games and expensive constantly updating hardware.

Infact the only owner it doesn't suck to be is a Wii owner unless you're some kinda retard and throw the remote through your TV.....

steveo_mcg · 28th Aug 2007, 13:50

Demo's are a good thing, they let you gauge your interest in a game/does it live to expectations, work out how much your upgrade is going to cost. Although for a game like UT you know what's coming, the engine is every where so you know what hardware to expect. Lets hope that the ps3 loss is the pc gain and we'll get a game that doesn't need a huge patch on release day.

sandys · 28th Aug 2007, 13:57

You don't need a UT3 demo on PS3, theres buggerall else to buy so it will sell anyway, all the PS3 owners hovering around game shops like junkies to a dealer waiting for our next game fix

DXR_13KE · 28th Aug 2007, 14:22

this game is going to so f***** rock!!!!! YEAH!!!!!

chrisb2e9 · 28th Aug 2007, 14:23

why not just rent the game for a day or two to see if you like it? whats that cost, like 5 dollars or something.

CardJoe · 28th Aug 2007, 14:27

Pay more to rent it? Sod that. Many, many more people would torrent it as thats free.

Sad and true.

Joeymac · 28th Aug 2007, 16:05

Why is a demo so complicated? Anyone know? Surely it's just the same as loading a level off a disc except the files are in a download and on the hard drive.... What specifically needs testing, that doesn't need to be tested for the full game anyway. A PC demo might be more complex as separate installers and Physx drivers and whatever are needed.. but a console game doesn't need that.

Bursar · 28th Aug 2007, 16:08

A demo still requires that you download the underlying engine that the game runs on. If that's not sorted, then the demo will be buggy and broken. I can't blame Epic for not wanting to release a demo. If they bodge it all together to get a demo out of the door, they have to then unbodge it, correctly fix the engine, and then ship the finished game late.

Franchises like UT and Doom tend to sell regardless, so I don't think a demo coming out a month or two after the game ships is really going to hurt sales all that much.

thecrownles · 28th Aug 2007, 16:19

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Originally Posted by iwog

How about they want the game to be as perfect and bug free as possible so why are we obsessed with demos when they can harm the games development? And to all the PS3 owners, sucks to be you atm, as it sucks to be 360 own with your red ring and us PC owners with lack of new games and expensive constantly updating hardware.

Infact the only owner it doesn't suck to be is a Wii owner unless you're some kinda retard and throw the remote through your TV.....

I LOLed

sandys · 28th Aug 2007, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Joeymac

Why is a demo so complicated? Anyone know? Surely it's just the same as loading a level off a disc except the files are in a download and on the hard drive.... What specifically needs testing, that doesn't need to be tested for the full game anyway. A PC demo might be more complex as separate installers and Physx drivers and whatever are needed.. but a console game doesn't need that.

many things, you have to create the demo from unfinished code, but still have to provide a working game thats not going to put people off, the final game might still be awaiting quite a few optimizations and somethings like AI might not yet be nailed down, also rather than supply gigabytes of data you want to make sure the package is as lean as possible, using only the needed textures, levels and other game data, this requires people to sort this out, then it needs testing and validation, this all takes time and people to do.

A demo is not simple on any platform.

Bauul · 28th Aug 2007, 16:49

Did anyone buy UT2003? I bet it must have stung when UT2004 came out. I always thought it was mean of Epic to release essentually half a game, and then release the full version a year later. Probably hurt their sale somewhat.

I wonder if they'll include all the old UT2004 levels with the new UT as well? Requring... 12 CDs to install.

Delphium · 28th Aug 2007, 16:53

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Originally Posted by Bauul

Did anyone buy UT2003? I bet it must have stung when UT2004 came out.

*puts his hand up

BUT... if you purchased the UT2003, then you could purchase the UT2004 at a discounted price, I think it was by sending off some form and getting a voucher in return ??? I forget exactly, but I recall I was pissed I could have done so, after purchasing UT2004

devdevil85 · 28th Aug 2007, 17:26

I don't need a demo to sell me on UT3....but it would be nice to wet my whistle if you know what I mean....but I'm willing to wait especially if it means it debuting earlier and hopefully with less bugs/patches.....

Manny151 · 28th Aug 2007, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Bauul

Did anyone buy UT2003? I bet it must have stung when UT2004 came out. I always thought it was mean of Epic to release essentually half a game, and then release the full version a year later. Probably hurt their sale somewhat.

I wonder if they'll include all the old UT2004 levels with the new UT as well? Requring... 12 CDs to install.

With Blu-Ray they could probably fit it all on one disc. But nooooo people kept saying "There's no need for Blu-Ray on a console, they're just trying force their format on you, games fit just fine on a DVD9" yeah right DVD9 is already showing its age and its only gonna get worse. As far as the demo goes I don't care all that much, I'm sure the game is gonna be great regardless. I would've liked a demo but like I said, it wont put me off from picking up the game as soon as it comes out. One more great game for my PS3 collection. lol

completemadness · 28th Aug 2007, 17:46

i got UT2003, played that a lot, then 2k4 came out, and i got that too

i was a bit pissed i couldn't get it cheaper because I'm in the UK, bloody epic
But UT2k4 was still an awesome game, and I'm eagerly awaiting UT3 - demo or not

D3s3rt_F0x · 28th Aug 2007, 20:53

I'd rather have a game thats ready over a game thats had to be put back because they were forced to make a demo.

kempez · 28th Aug 2007, 20:58

Is the PS3 version going to utilise a keyboard and mouse?

If not it's barely worth getting out of the PC chair to think about buying

28th Aug 2007, 13:37	#1
CardJoe Player Character bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,977	Epic won't make a PS3 UT3 demo http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08...ps3_ut3_demo/1 Epic's head honcho, Mark Rein, tells us that there won't be a UT3 demo for the PS3 because Epic is too damn busy. PC demo though? No problem. , frankly __________________ this is joe's non-bit-tech blog

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28th Aug 2007, 13:43	#4
iwog Linux cursed Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: IoW, UK Posts: 710	How about they want the game to be as perfect and bug free as possible so why are we obsessed with demos when they can harm the games development? And to all the PS3 owners, sucks to be you atm, as it sucks to be 360 own with your red ring and us PC owners with lack of new games and expensive constantly updating hardware. Infact the only owner it doesn't suck to be is a Wii owner unless you're some kinda retard and throw the remote through your TV..... __________________ Welcome to bit-tech, watch out for thread drift Things can only get better

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Joeymac Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 221	Why is a demo so complicated? Anyone know? Surely it's just the same as loading a level off a disc except the files are in a download and on the hard drive.... What specifically needs testing, that doesn't need to be tested for the full game anyway. A PC demo might be more complex as separate installers and Physx drivers and whatever are needed.. but a console game doesn't need that.

28th Aug 2007, 16:08	#11
Bursar Hypermodder Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 700	A demo still requires that you download the underlying engine that the game runs on. If that's not sorted, then the demo will be buggy and broken. I can't blame Epic for not wanting to release a demo. If they bodge it all together to get a demo out of the door, they have to then unbodge it, correctly fix the engine, and then ship the finished game late. Franchises like UT and Doom tend to sell regardless, so I don't think a demo coming out a month or two after the game ships is really going to hurt sales all that much. __________________ www.philspcmods.com - a rough guide

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Bauul Sir Bongaminge Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Godalming, near Guildford Posts: 1,553	Did anyone buy UT2003? I bet it must have stung when UT2004 came out. I always thought it was mean of Epic to release essentually half a game, and then release the full version a year later. Probably hurt their sale somewhat. I wonder if they'll include all the old UT2004 levels with the new UT as well? Requring... 12 CDs to install. __________________ Pentium 4 CPU 3.4 Ghz \| 1Gb + 2x512Mb Corsair DDR2 667 Mhz Sapphire Radeon HD 4770 512Mb\| WD Raptor 36Gb, Seagate 300Gb \| Asus P5LD2 SE Ibanez RG 470 Japanese Edition \| 1991 Japanese Lo-TRS Tremolo \| V7 S1 Custom V8 HSH Pickups

28th Aug 2007, 17:26	#16
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	I don't need a demo to sell me on UT3....but it would be nice to wet my whistle if you know what I mean....but I'm willing to wait especially if it means it debuting earlier and hopefully with less bugs/patches.....

28th Aug 2007, 17:46	#18
completemadness Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 887	i got UT2003, played that a lot, then 2k4 came out, and i got that too i was a bit pissed i couldn't get it cheaper because I'm in the UK, bloody epic But UT2k4 was still an awesome game, and I'm eagerly awaiting UT3 - demo or not

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D3s3rt_F0x Hypermodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Near Middlesbrough Posts: 681	I'd rather have a game thats ready over a game thats had to be put back because they were forced to make a demo.

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