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CardJoe · 28th Aug 2007, 14:23

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/08...iolent_games/1

Conservative Party leader, David Cameron, is due to unveil a mini-manifesto which will detail how to tackle crime by 'dealing with' violent computer games.

Mankz · 28th Aug 2007, 14:25

Computer violence doesn't make people violent.

I wish cameron would stop his whining.

naokaji · 28th Aug 2007, 14:30

can we tie him together back to back with jack thompson and shoot him to the moon?

honestly....

if a kid thinks violence in rl would be good, then the parents belong locked away, not the games.

if a kid has access to guns, then guns belong locked away, not games.

if a kid cant tell the difference between virtual stuff and real stuff, then the parents failed...

samkiller42 · 28th Aug 2007, 14:33

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Originally Posted by Mankz

Computer violence doesn't make people violent.

That is fairly true, but its the way children are raised also, their back ground etc

Sam

LeMaltor · 28th Aug 2007, 14:37

I think I just got dumber!

Javerh · 28th Aug 2007, 14:40

Ban the teletubbies!

fwalm · 28th Aug 2007, 14:41

We'll why don't we ban the matrix, an american decided to stick a plug into the back of his head. Stupid governement go home nobody likes you. Like naokaji said its the parents fault if they go cray in most cases. Computer games might just give them ideas but it is'nt the games fault.

Seraphim Works · 28th Aug 2007, 14:43

This whole violent gaming debate is becoming increasingly one-sided. In fact, has there been an example of mainstream media supporting the gaming industry rather than using it as a scapegoat?

I doubt the rise in gun crime, etc, is linked to the proliferation of gaming, but rather the rising sophistication of criminal organisations supplying drugs, firearms, etc.

But hey, if it's an easy target...

cjoyce1980 · 28th Aug 2007, 14:45

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Originally Posted by naokaji

can we tie him together back to back with jack thompson and shoot him to the moon?

honestly....

if a kid thinks violence in rl would be good, then the parents belong locked away, not the games.

if a kid has access to guns, then guns belong locked away, not games.

if a kid cant tell the difference between virtual stuff and real stuff, then the parents failed...

spot on, but he is going to hit mid-england with this and that his target audience. parents that are sheep and have to been seen to do something about this apparent problem that does not exist. It's the parents that fail, not the goverment, BBFC, game developers, etc.... If mummy and daddy thinks that there child could be harmed mentally with exposure to this type of material then don't buy them for christmas and birthday presents

Laitainion · 28th Aug 2007, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Hugo.B

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Originally Posted by Mankz.

Computer violence doesn't make people violent.

I wish cameron would stop his whining.

Unfortunately for you, I don't think you can prove that.

Shouldn't the onus be on Cameron to prove so, since what he is suggesting could be regarded as censorship?

Mankz · 28th Aug 2007, 14:47

worst of all, Cameron is giving etonians a bad name!

Anywho, if parents followed the age-guidelines, people young enough to be influenced by the violence wouldn't be seeing it. But like that'll ever happen.

K · 28th Aug 2007, 14:52

Daily Mail readers everywhere must be creaming themselves in anticipation.

naokaji · 28th Aug 2007, 14:55

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Originally Posted by K

Daily Mail readers everywhere must be creaming themselves in anticipation.

i'm not going to say anything about them lol... (dont want them to come burn down my house)...

one more thing....

why do they actually always say that games need to be banned? i mean... enforcing an age restriction would be far easier...

sunny_man · 28th Aug 2007, 15:06

I am a Conservative supporter although policies I want to see blur the line between all 3 major parties here in the UK. If Cameron draws up some ridiculous policies just to appeal to the naive (mis)understanding that some parents have then I'll definitely be changing who I vote for (out vote matters here, unlike some other places).

K · 28th Aug 2007, 15:06

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Originally Posted by naokaji

why do they actually always say that games need to be banned? i mean... enforcing an age restriction would be far easier...

You're right, we've already got a top-notch system in place from the BBFC. If only more retailers and parents would enforce it. PR and Marketing people have a lot to answer for too though. I only read adult orientated games mags like EDGE, but a lot of these publishers are advertising 18 rated games in magazines with demographics that have younger folk as the clear majority. But that's a bit of a grey area really.

steveo_mcg · 28th Aug 2007, 15:19

And he was nearly making him self electable. Plonker

Ramble · 28th Aug 2007, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Mankz.

worst of all, Cameron is giving etonians a bad name!

Anywho, if parents followed the age-guidelines, people young enough to be influenced by the violence wouldn't be seeing it. But like that'll ever happen.

I think other MPs from Eton have been doing that for a long time.

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Originally Posted by K

Daily Mail readers everywhere must be creaming themselves in anticipation.

I made a post to the website (I read it for laughs, no serious news) when I saw the article there that violence in video games does not perpetuate violence in real life, but there is no reasoning with middle England. These are the same types of people who think all Arabs are terrorists and routinely use homeopathic medicine.

Mankz · 28th Aug 2007, 15:27

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Originally Posted by Ramble

These are the same types of people who think all Arabs are terrorists and routinely use homeopathic medicine.

noobs.

DXR_13KE · 28th Aug 2007, 15:44

if he can prove to me that video games are completely linked to the big increase in violence everywhere (and not drugs, poverty, bad role models or/and bad environment) then i am pro-ban, if not he can go F himself with an elaborated "caralhinho" i saw the other day.
And you Brits are stupid if he gets elected...... no offense here

steveo_mcg · 28th Aug 2007, 15:49

TBH, he's the first electable torie in years and up until now most of what he has said has been at least partially sensible.

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