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Tim S · 24th Aug 2007, 11:56

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...p5k3_premium/1

How about a motherboard with 2GB of DDR3 built in? Is a good price and guaranteed overclocking to 1,500MHz good enough to tempt people away from a standard bundle?

Part two is now live:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...emium_part_2/1

You've seen the concept now how does it perform? Will the hefty investment be worth it for the Premium motherboard with on-board memory?

Fr4nk · 24th Aug 2007, 12:17

Would have liked to seen some benches, then again this is only part one. I'm sure some one with more money than sense will buy it... But investing £550 into a mobo and ram only to see it heavily drop in price as new stuff comes out/ DDr3 becomes more mainstream/ affordable, it just doesn't seem right to blow that much cash on it, also youre heavily limited to upgrading your ram :P

None the less it's a nice gimmick/ innovation but impracticle IMO...

/Waits to see the six waterblocks from EK waterblocks

-Fr4nk

atanum141 · 24th Aug 2007, 12:19

Awesome mobo for the completely mad and super rich.

it's a engineering masterpiece and looks like's the dogs bollox but the limitation with only having DDR3 is obviously shown.

kenco_uk · 24th Aug 2007, 12:22

Still only 6 sata ports. I like the memory heatpipe though, very nice.

Kipman725 · 24th Aug 2007, 12:43

cool idea you should be able to achive much higher clocks and lower latancy than if that memory was in seperate slots. Although as far as I have seen DDR3 @ 1600mhz only just matches the best DDR2 so for me DDR2 seems like a better choice for value for money.

lamboman · 24th Aug 2007, 12:47

The problem with all these DDR3 boards with integrated memory is that 4GB will soon become mainstream for enthusiasts, and with no way to upgrade the memory, it makes it pretty stupid to buy the board.

Mankz · 24th Aug 2007, 12:47

Its a very nice solution by Asus.

Only problem is the cost. If it were ~ £400 Im sure more people would by one.

ComputerKing · 24th Aug 2007, 13:14

HOLY ****! 2GB DDR3 OnBoard! WTF, They kidding for sure! That 10 Layer is amazing too! but If I want 4GB rams or 8GB! What I do, mmm this is kickass motherboard but that ram thing kinda make it sux!

Thanks for the review, Good luck.

BTW: I was want Bit-Tech Guys make review on this http://www.soundgraph.com/Eng_/Produ...=1&leftMenu=26

I love that LCD and I wish if i can buy it

Thanks very much.

Tulatin · 24th Aug 2007, 13:41

*sighs at the post above me*

Good idea on the board, but it does bear a few issues. First off, you're dropping over the worse side of a half thousand pounds, and now you've eternally got yourself 2GB of ram, courtesy of 32 ICs, any one of which could go tits up, and send you on a wonderful little RMA vacation. Rather than just popping the offending stick and sending it home for a few days, now you've got to send the whole bloody board back - insured, tracked, and with armed escort for that cost.

Beyond that, it's cheaper for those of us on this side of the pond to get a DDR3 P5K, and a good set of 2gb (1800+) or an average set of 4gb than this...

Jack_Pepsi · 24th Aug 2007, 13:46

I can understand why they didn't include 4GB instead of 2, I just think it'd make more sense (at the cost of expense - no rhyme intended) Who's to say they won't be releasing an updated model with 4GB (or even 8) at a later... date.

:|

Either way, I'd have preferred to see this board with 4GB, but hey, what can you do?

Nice article by the way, looking forward to part 2.

Carbon_Arc · 24th Aug 2007, 13:47

It's got a very philosophical BIOS..... "Exist and Save Changes".

I wonder what the alternative option is?

Jack_Pepsi · 24th Aug 2007, 13:48

[USRF]Obiwan · 24th Aug 2007, 13:53

Seems the memory heatpipe is useless anyway. Or else the would have had a labyrint of heatpipes on the back also for the other memchips...

Panos · 24th Aug 2007, 13:54

As idea is great BUT........

For the same money we can get a respectable 650i Ultra or P35,Q6600, 4GB DDR2-7200 and left with enough, to get an 8600 to go with it.

What I'm concerned is that we didn't saw any ratings of how ti perform against a typical motherboard.

The_Pope · 24th Aug 2007, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenco_uk

Still only 6 sata ports. I like the memory heatpipe though, very nice.

Innocent question: how many would you want to see??

Ramble · 24th Aug 2007, 14:38

How many SATA ports do people want? 6 ports x 1 terbyte drives = 6 terabytes of storage. Even if you saturate that then you still have external drives and USB ports to use.
If you use all of that up, then you have a pornography problem.

naokaji · 24th Aug 2007, 14:52

the problem with that board is that you can get a ddr3 board + 2GB DDR 3 ram or ddr2 board + 4GB ddr2 ram for less.

kenco_uk · 24th Aug 2007, 14:55

Ramble, you've got the wrong end of the stick.

I have four sata hdd's (400+400+300+300) and three sata dvd-rw's. I dumped ide drives a few months ago now and love the smaller/easier to work with sata cables.

The_Pope - I think 7 sata ports should be the standard, or at least one of the two esata ports as a normal sata port (as is on the P5B Deluxe).

Bindibadgi · 24th Aug 2007, 15:11

I've got three DVDRWs but I'll admit I'm on the excessive end of the scale and never really use all three at once unless I'm utterly lazy for DVD changing or am burning multiple disks at once, but then I'm often limited by DVD speed.

You could combine the 300s or 300/400 with a single 750GB if they aren't RAIDed.

Mankz · 24th Aug 2007, 16:02

I think you realistically need atleast 4 SATA ports (2xDVD , 2 XHDD). 6 is ample.

24th Aug 2007, 11:56	#1
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24th Aug 2007, 12:17	#2
Fr4nk Tyrannosaurus Alan ! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Uk, Essex Posts: 2,367	Would have liked to seen some benches, then again this is only part one. I'm sure some one with more money than sense will buy it... But investing £550 into a mobo and ram only to see it heavily drop in price as new stuff comes out/ DDr3 becomes more mainstream/ affordable, it just doesn't seem right to blow that much cash on it, also youre heavily limited to upgrading your ram :P None the less it's a nice gimmick/ innovation but impracticle IMO... /Waits to see the six waterblocks from EK waterblocks -Fr4nk __________________ {Macbook Pro + Dell 2407 WFP - Canon 3000V + Canon 350D + BG-E3 + Sigma 10-20mm + 50mm f1.8 + kit 28-90mm EF - Rolleiflex 2.8 TLR} *Flickr ~Flickriver ^ My Behance Art Folio

24th Aug 2007, 12:19	#3
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24th Aug 2007, 13:41	#9
Tulatin The Froggy Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,941	sighs at the post above me Good idea on the board, but it does bear a few issues. First off, you're dropping over the worse side of a half thousand pounds, and now you've eternally got yourself 2GB of ram, courtesy of 32 ICs, any one of which could go tits up, and send you on a wonderful little RMA vacation. Rather than just popping the offending stick and sending it home for a few days, now you've got to send the whole bloody board back - insured, tracked, and with armed escort for that cost. Beyond that, it's cheaper for those of us on this side of the pond to get a DDR3 P5K, and a good set of 2gb (1800+) or an average set of 4gb than this... __________________ Desky E8400 @ 4.0 1.42v; P5K-E WiFi; 4x1 Kingmax Mars 1066 @ 1129 CAS 5; 2x [TOO CHEAP TO SPONSOR] 4850 @ 675/1050; Enermax Liberty; WCing in a CM690

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24th Aug 2007, 13:53	#13
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Panos Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 72	As idea is great BUT........ For the same money we can get a respectable 650i Ultra or P35,Q6600, 4GB DDR2-7200 and left with enough, to get an 8600 to go with it. What I'm concerned is that we didn't saw any ratings of how ti perform against a typical motherboard.

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