[09/07] Progression - bit-tech.net Forums

alastor · 17th Sep 2007, 18:38

Progression: Valves > transistors > integrated circuit

(Edited with final version, others available in my Flickr if anyone wants to see. Thanks for everyone's help!)

Da Dego · 17th Sep 2007, 18:45

I really love the basic idea but it feels a little...well, "in your face". The colouring, however, is absolutely gorgeous. Definitely attractive, feels a little rustic and aged with the tube. Perhaps a newer processor or something that looks really new would be a better complement than that old one, though?

Mankz · 17th Sep 2007, 18:56

Fewer 'items' I think.

As D-D said, the colours are great.

Starfighter · 17th Sep 2007, 19:59

Fabtastic take on this months theme, I think with little re-working could be onto a winner there

Perhaps without the CPU as it kinda dilutes the theme... no... wait that's like... Man, aren't computers great?

ssR · 17th Sep 2007, 22:25

love the composition especially the tube. i agree with what DD said about a newer processor, a bigger heatspreader would add some bling to the picture

alastor · 18th Sep 2007, 09:48

Unfortunately the PIII is the only spare processor I have, however if anyone has anything they'd like to contribute to the photo I'd gladly accept it

Will try reshooting it today sometime with a different arrangement, maybe see what else I have lying around the house that would fit. Thanks for the comments so far

alastor · 18th Sep 2007, 17:54

Tried another shoot this afternoon, looser crop to hopefully be less "in your face", not sure if I've got the colours spot on yet but will keep fiddling.

Da Dego · 18th Sep 2007, 19:20

I'm not as big on the background and lighting in this shot. It feels more roughly "posed" than the other. I don't think it should be zoomed out as much, perhaps "in your face" wasn't quite as literal as that. I am thinking maybe some of the diodes could be taken out so there's not quite so much.

I DO like seeing more of the chip , particularly the intel logo. Maybe you could re-frame your original shot more with a few less transistors and the chip rotated to highlight this?

I definitely don't like the new "background"...I think overall this shot looks more like I'm looking at a small pile of kit than a technological landscape that the other one was going for. The old background had no definition, just dark, which fit the image a lot more...particularly its colour tones.

Hope this helps, I'm trying to scrape together the words for what I'm seeing but I might be coming up a bit shy.

ssR · 18th Sep 2007, 19:29

in my eyes the composition in 2nd shot is much better, didn't put too much attention to the background actually, doesn't bother me actually. i think you're on to a winner here, at least in my eyes

Shadowed_fury · 18th Sep 2007, 21:05

Really do like the 2nd shot

Mother-Goose · 18th Sep 2007, 21:52

I'm going to go for the first as my favourite, the colouring (as everyone has mentioned) is gorgeous!

Now, if those tubes were glowing....

zabe · 18th Sep 2007, 22:50

I like the 2nd shot, where you can read the INTEL part. it's nicely structured, although I would use some whiter & stronger light source... then again, I just like metals to shine... good luck!!

Firehed · 18th Sep 2007, 22:52

I like the second shot a bit better as well. Are there any date indications of any of the manufacture dates on the transistors or tubes? Seeing that you've got the '00 on the proc, it could really strengthen the "progression" (especially since outside of a tech forum, few people would be able to make the connection)

alastor · 18th Sep 2007, 23:34

Thanks again guys, will get there in the end with this

Wasn't sure about the background either, just tried something different. I'll try to replicate a combination of the two tomorrow sometime, hopefully colours and background of the first with some of the composition of the second. Don't think there are any useful markings on the transistors but there might be on the tubes, will see in the morning...

Hwulex · 19th Sep 2007, 11:27

I'm with Brett. Whilst the inclusion of Intel and other details in the second are nice, the whole lighting and mood of the first image is far superior, imo. I also think the background in the second image is far too distracting and just looks like it was shot on your bed. It may well have been, but we don't need to know that

RTT · 19th Sep 2007, 13:58

I didn't even spot the CPU there in the first one until I'd looked at it for a good few seconds. Nice

First >>> Second

alastor · 19th Sep 2007, 18:45

Another attempt, hopefully combining the best of both. Definitely getting happier with these, thanks for all the input guys, helping a beginner get a mental image into reality.

~Link~ · 19th Sep 2007, 20:13

I must say, I definitely like the third image. It combines the best parts of the first two pictures(more detail in the processor, but a less distracting background)

However, that line of stitching that's visible in the backdrop is still quite distracting. I don't think it's necessary to re-shoot this, you could just clone out the stitching in photoshop. But it's something to think about for the next time. Good work overall.

evilgreenie · 19th Sep 2007, 23:25

I'm for the second image - I like the way the lighting just picks up the burnished discolouring in the valve tubes and the reflections on the processor top break up the grey which kinda dominates the first & third images. The third image also looks a bit too posed as the intel & mullard logos appear a bit too aligned.

Just my pennyworth...

Hwulex · 19th Sep 2007, 23:54

Love the latest effort.

17th Sep 2007, 18:38	#1
alastor Mod Master Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,503	[09/07] Progression Progression: Valves > transistors > integrated circuit (Edited with final version, others available in my Flickr if anyone wants to see. Thanks for everyone's help!) __________________ Main Rig: C2D E6850 (3.0GHz) : Asus P5E (X38) : 4GB XMS2 PC6400 : HD4870 512MB : Enermax 620W : 2 x Samsung F1 1TB : Antec P182 Laptop: Turion64 ML-34 (1.8Ghz/1MB) : 1GiB Hyundai : Mobility Radeon X700 128MB : 100GB Seagate HDD My Flickr : My Gamercard Last edited by alastor; 20th Sep 2007 at 18:52.

17th Sep 2007, 18:45	#2
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	I really love the basic idea but it feels a little...well, "in your face". The colouring, however, is absolutely gorgeous. Definitely attractive, feels a little rustic and aged with the tube. Perhaps a newer processor or something that looks really new would be a better complement than that old one, though? __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

17th Sep 2007, 19:59	#4
Starfighter Multimodder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 152	Fabtastic take on this months theme, I think with little re-working could be onto a winner there Perhaps without the CPU as it kinda dilutes the theme... no... wait that's like... Man, aren't computers great? __________________ Rob - sennir.co.uk \| Photography Guide

17th Sep 2007, 22:25	#5
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18th Sep 2007, 09:48	#6
alastor Mod Master Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,503	Unfortunately the PIII is the only spare processor I have, however if anyone has anything they'd like to contribute to the photo I'd gladly accept it Will try reshooting it today sometime with a different arrangement, maybe see what else I have lying around the house that would fit. Thanks for the comments so far __________________ Main Rig: C2D E6850 (3.0GHz) : Asus P5E (X38) : 4GB XMS2 PC6400 : HD4870 512MB : Enermax 620W : 2 x Samsung F1 1TB : Antec P182 Laptop: Turion64 ML-34 (1.8Ghz/1MB) : 1GiB Hyundai : Mobility Radeon X700 128MB : 100GB Seagate HDD My Flickr : My Gamercard

18th Sep 2007, 17:54	#7
alastor Mod Master Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,503	Tried another shoot this afternoon, looser crop to hopefully be less "in your face", not sure if I've got the colours spot on yet but will keep fiddling. __________________ Main Rig: C2D E6850 (3.0GHz) : Asus P5E (X38) : 4GB XMS2 PC6400 : HD4870 512MB : Enermax 620W : 2 x Samsung F1 1TB : Antec P182 Laptop: Turion64 ML-34 (1.8Ghz/1MB) : 1GiB Hyundai : Mobility Radeon X700 128MB : 100GB Seagate HDD My Flickr : My Gamercard

18th Sep 2007, 19:20	#8
Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	I'm not as big on the background and lighting in this shot. It feels more roughly "posed" than the other. I don't think it should be zoomed out as much, perhaps "in your face" wasn't quite as literal as that. I am thinking maybe some of the diodes could be taken out so there's not quite so much. I DO like seeing more of the chip , particularly the intel logo. Maybe you could re-frame your original shot more with a few less transistors and the chip rotated to highlight this? I definitely don't like the new "background"...I think overall this shot looks more like I'm looking at a small pile of kit than a technological landscape that the other one was going for. The old background had no definition, just dark, which fit the image a lot more...particularly its colour tones. Hope this helps, I'm trying to scrape together the words for what I'm seeing but I might be coming up a bit shy. __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

18th Sep 2007, 19:29	#9
ssR Carbon God Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Israel Posts: 585	in my eyes the composition in 2nd shot is much better, didn't put too much attention to the background actually, doesn't bother me actually. i think you're on to a winner here, at least in my eyes __________________ Galleries: My DeviantArt \|\| My PhotoLight Gear: A620 \|\| 50D+BG-E2N \|\| Canon EF 17-40 F/4L USM \|\| Canon EF 50mm F/1.8 II \|\| Canon EF 85mm F/1.8 USM \|\| Canon EF 100mm F/2.8 Macro USM \|\|Canon 70-200 F/4L IS USM \|\| Sigma 10-20mm F/4-5.6 EX DC HSM \|\| Manfrotto 055xprob with 804RC2 head \|\| Canon Speedlite 430EX II

18th Sep 2007, 21:05	#10
Shadowed_fury Natural Born Chaos Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Telford Posts: 7,135	Really do like the 2nd shot __________________ Steam: kev_fury New Frag Video - Gigabyte EP43-DS3L - E8200 - XFX 4870 1GB - 4GB Kingston - - Steel Series 7.1s - Logitech G11 - Razer Diamondback 3G - 2209WA -

18th Sep 2007, 21:52	#11
Mother-Goose Tories ftw! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: England - Surrey Posts: 3,750	I'm going to go for the first as my favourite, the colouring (as everyone has mentioned) is gorgeous! Now, if those tubes were glowing.... __________________ Goose Q6600, Striker Extreme, 4GB 6400C4 Dominator DHX, Raptor X, 2x400GB spinpoints, BFG 8800GTX OC, Stacker 830 Evo, HX620, Nova T 500, Freezer 7 Pro

18th Sep 2007, 22:50	#12
zabe Perfect in my imperfection Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 195	I like the 2nd shot, where you can read the INTEL part. it's nicely structured, although I would use some whiter & stronger light source... then again, I just like metals to shine... good luck!!

18th Sep 2007, 22:52	#13
Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	I like the second shot a bit better as well. Are there any date indications of any of the manufacture dates on the transistors or tubes? Seeing that you've got the '00 on the proc, it could really strengthen the "progression" (especially since outside of a tech forum, few people would be able to make the connection) __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

18th Sep 2007, 23:34	#14
alastor Mod Master Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,503	Thanks again guys, will get there in the end with this Wasn't sure about the background either, just tried something different. I'll try to replicate a combination of the two tomorrow sometime, hopefully colours and background of the first with some of the composition of the second. Don't think there are any useful markings on the transistors but there might be on the tubes, will see in the morning... __________________ Main Rig: C2D E6850 (3.0GHz) : Asus P5E (X38) : 4GB XMS2 PC6400 : HD4870 512MB : Enermax 620W : 2 x Samsung F1 1TB : Antec P182 Laptop: Turion64 ML-34 (1.8Ghz/1MB) : 1GiB Hyundai : Mobility Radeon X700 128MB : 100GB Seagate HDD My Flickr : My Gamercard

19th Sep 2007, 11:27	#15
Hwulex Freerider Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Camberley-ish, UK FR: Progressive Posts: 3,995	I'm with Brett. Whilst the inclusion of Intel and other details in the second are nice, the whole lighting and mood of the first image is far superior, imo. I also think the background in the second image is far too distracting and just looks like it was shot on your bed. It may well have been, but we don't need to know that __________________ Clickr my Flickr

19th Sep 2007, 13:58	#16
RTT bwarp Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Berkshire Posts: 12,987	I didn't even spot the CPU there in the first one until I'd looked at it for a good few seconds. Nice First >>> Second __________________ This post is non-negotiable. All terms and conditions apply. Arguing on the internet is like competing in the special Olympics. Even if you win you're still a retard.

19th Sep 2007, 18:45	#17
alastor Mod Master Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,503	Another attempt, hopefully combining the best of both. Definitely getting happier with these, thanks for all the input guys, helping a beginner get a mental image into reality. __________________ Main Rig: C2D E6850 (3.0GHz) : Asus P5E (X38) : 4GB XMS2 PC6400 : HD4870 512MB : Enermax 620W : 2 x Samsung F1 1TB : Antec P182 Laptop: Turion64 ML-34 (1.8Ghz/1MB) : 1GiB Hyundai : Mobility Radeon X700 128MB : 100GB Seagate HDD My Flickr : My Gamercard

19th Sep 2007, 20:13	#18
~Link~ Minimodder Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 41	I must say, I definitely like the third image. It combines the best parts of the first two pictures(more detail in the processor, but a less distracting background) However, that line of stitching that's visible in the backdrop is still quite distracting. I don't think it's necessary to re-shoot this, you could just clone out the stitching in photoshop. But it's something to think about for the next time. Good work overall.

19th Sep 2007, 23:25	#19
evilgreenie Standby for Main Engine Burn Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 83	I'm for the second image - I like the way the lighting just picks up the burnished discolouring in the valve tubes and the reflections on the processor top break up the grey which kinda dominates the first & third images. The third image also looks a bit too posed as the intel & mullard logos appear a bit too aligned. Just my pennyworth... __________________ Least Spammy Poster Evah!

19th Sep 2007, 23:54	#20
Hwulex Freerider Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Camberley-ish, UK FR: Progressive Posts: 3,995	Love the latest effort. __________________ Clickr my Flickr