UK government to help push faster broadband - bit-tech.net Forums

Bindibadgi · 19th Sep 2007, 16:26

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/09...er_broadband/1

The UK government has decided that faster broadband speeds are needed and may step in to help lower the costs of building a fibre network.

wharrad · 19th Sep 2007, 16:34

Please don't forget the upload - that's all I ask...

Cabe64 · 19th Sep 2007, 16:34

Well thats a good sign. I apparantly have a 8Mbit connection but most speed test I do top out at around 2Mbit and the service seems to be getting worse these days with more and more outages. The other day my connection dropped to 100Kbit for about an hour.

I'm on NTL (now owned by Virgin).

I can only hope I'm in that 40% by 2012

Bogie · 19th Sep 2007, 16:38

Im with AOL UK and they suck. My supposed 8meg connection runs at about 4 meg on a good day. What with them capping me because i leave my router on aswell they give me 56kps or 0.5 meg in the evenings. No one go AOL UK. EVER!

Duste · 19th Sep 2007, 16:40

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Originally Posted by wharrad

Please don't forget the upload - that's all I ask...

+1

Uploads should be at least half your max download.

xrob · 19th Sep 2007, 16:44

hmm i was under the impression that BT werent doing FTTH, so how by 2012 they plan on doing this i am unsure, the BT 21CN scheme i thought was just to better the current infrastruture with more fibre to high level POPs/Exhcanges or something and enabling all the exchanges with ADSL2 for this 24mbit crap. I can say for sure though what ever the goverment does, it will not speed things up in terms of time scale and connection speeds because they will just take it as discounts for themselves. i do hope for FTTH but living in a small town in norfolk i cant see it happening

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Omnituens · 19th Sep 2007, 16:45

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but it seems, if you go by our forum posts, that many of their connections are quite up to speed.

"are NOT quite up to speed"?

personally, I prefer a SLOWER, STABLE connection, to a FAST, UNSTABLE connection. currently i have a SLOW, UNSTABLE connection.

F**K YOU BEE TEE WITH YOUR OWN HOMOHUB.

Cabe64 · 19th Sep 2007, 16:47

^^ I saw that but forgot to point it out. Kudos

bloodcar · 19th Sep 2007, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Omnituens

"are NOT quite up to speed"?

It's fixed now guys, along with a couple of other typos. Sorry about that, was in a big hurry when I was typing that one out but thanks for pointing it out.

p3n · 19th Sep 2007, 17:06

Im all for better connections but with the increased bandwidth (upload in particular) the ISP has to be careful you dont startup your own game servers etc. Which might lead to alot of problems when gaming with ports being firewalled etc (my swedish pals cant host WC3 on their fat pipes)

mctigger · 19th Sep 2007, 17:14

mmm the government getting involved could be disastrous but i would like to have a fibre connection, if it ever happens, but i doubt it, cos i can get a top speed of 700k on my connection

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie

Im with AOL UK and they suck. My supposed 8meg connection runs at about 4 meg on a good day. What with them capping me because i leave my router on aswell they give me 56kps or 0.5 meg in the evenings. No one go AOL UK. EVER!

im with aol, oh god why did i go that route, Mainly cos i don't pay for it but hey ho, anyways, they don't cap me, they just have a tendency to cut me off time to time, when im d/l large files, idiots

Delphium · 19th Sep 2007, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by wharrad

Please don't forget the upload - that's all I ask...

QFT!!
Upload speeds atm are at a stupidly costly premium, door to door fiber is the way forward!!
With the sweeds already doing so, and france implimenting it, fiber would open doors to all sorts of tech, HD tv, digital phones, as well as internet.

I wish the goverment best of luck trying to get the BT puzzle together in order to roll out such.

IanW · 19th Sep 2007, 17:36

'Twas rumoured that many moons ago, when phone company vans were yellow, BT bosses went to No10 and offered to provide FTTH at no cost to government, but Maggie said NO!

Darkedge · 19th Sep 2007, 17:40

anyone who went with AOL - you believed their marketing rubbish and took the worst, limited internet package outside of a mobile phone contract? Fools.

AOL should die as a company NOW, and I hope they do.

Veles · 19th Sep 2007, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duste

+1

Uploads should be at least half your max download.

Agreed, upload speeds are very poor and there's no reason for it, maybe when broadband was first used there wasn't much the average user uploaded, but with the advent of stuff like YouTube and widespread P2P use, the average user is more likely to want a high upload speed.

kosch · 19th Sep 2007, 17:44

Lets upgrade bring back Ceefax!

ellism · 19th Sep 2007, 17:49

There is no chance in BT doing this off of their own back with all the money they have put into ADSL in the last few years.

mikeuk2004 · 19th Sep 2007, 18:48

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Originally Posted by Darkedge

anyone who went with AOL - you believed their marketing rubbish and took the worst, limited internet package outside of a mobile phone contract? Fools.

AOL should die as a company NOW, and I hope they do.

Not correct at all my friend. I hated AOL before I signed up. Im with them because they were the only provider available for my flat which is in a newly built area. I had no choice other than no internet acess at all. I can now use other providers now but im stuck in a contract.

cyrilthefish · 19th Sep 2007, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duste

+1

Uploads should be at least half your max download.

They started off that way, just haven't increased much at all with the download speeds

256k upload was great on 512k connections, but 512k or less upload is rather pathetic on 4mb+ connections.

It's even worse for me though, due to virgin media's horrible traffic shaping i spend most evenings with a crippled 192k upload

capnPedro · 19th Sep 2007, 19:35

I'm with NTL/Virgin, but even my parents (who rarely use the internet) are starting to get pissed off at them. 2mB download is slower than I would like, and being limited to 10kB/sec makes my torrent ratios hate me.

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Cabe64 Cabutron Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 692	Well thats a good sign. I apparantly have a 8Mbit connection but most speed test I do top out at around 2Mbit and the service seems to be getting worse these days with more and more outages. The other day my connection dropped to 100Kbit for about an hour. I'm on NTL (now owned by Virgin). I can only hope I'm in that 40% by 2012 __________________ Black MacBook \|\| 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo \|\| 3Gb RAM \|\| 250Gb HD \|\| 22" Dell Monitor \|\| Logitech MX Revolution \|\| Creative T20's I never seen nothin' like you before I can kick you higher than you can kick me I can kick you way up into a tree

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Bogie Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 28	Im with AOL UK and they suck. My supposed 8meg connection runs at about 4 meg on a good day. What with them capping me because i leave my router on aswell they give me 56kps or 0.5 meg in the evenings. No one go AOL UK. EVER!

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p3n Hypermodder Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 737	Im all for better connections but with the increased bandwidth (upload in particular) the ISP has to be careful you dont startup your own game servers etc. Which might lead to alot of problems when gaming with ports being firewalled etc (my swedish pals cant host WC3 on their fat pipes)

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