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Tim S · 24th Sep 2007, 10:42

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/09...ia_companies/1

The latest casualties in the wake of the MediaDefender leak last week might be the companies that hired MD to do their dirty work.

AcidJiles · 24th Sep 2007, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Tim S

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/09...ia_companies/1

The latest casualties in the wake of the MediaDefender leak last week might be the companies that hired MD to do their dirty work.

i hope they go down big and realise a change is needed in the way they do buisness towards what the consumer wants. As a wise man once said "the customer is always right"

yakyb · 24th Sep 2007, 11:31

i heard about his last week cant wait to see how this develops
it is m opinion that they are both in the wrong but will the ruling be in favour of the blatent law breakers (TPB) or the people who broke the law to catch them. i hope they both fall flat on their face as i feel this is the only way things can truely progress

steveo_mcg · 24th Sep 2007, 12:16

Difference is the TPB aren't breaking Swedish law! The group being charged have broken US, UK, Swedish and the laws of just about all countries in the west. All i can say is Touché.

mikeuk2004 · 24th Sep 2007, 12:17

I dont think they have the cash to go up against all those companies. Heres the end to Piratebay as they are about to be squashed.

plagio · 24th Sep 2007, 12:20

This is getting better and better. Thank god for this entertainment, I was going crazy waiting the third series of Lost being aired/pirated

DXR_13KE · 24th Sep 2007, 12:26

this might get interesting....

/me gets the popcorn

proxess · 24th Sep 2007, 13:48

This is one twist of events, thats for sure.

mmorgue · 24th Sep 2007, 14:52

I never understood that concept -- "obtaining evidence illegally".

If the evidence does indeed prove 100% culpability, who cares how it was obtained? Ok, maybe the party being accussed but they're guilty so what does it matter?

If the email trail shows conclusive proof of MD's guilt and full evidence of the charges against them, why shouldn't it be included?

plagio · 24th Sep 2007, 14:57

Is there any statement from MD at all about the whole thing ?

Hells_Bliss · 24th Sep 2007, 15:22

well technically the email motherload was obtained illegally, but not by TPB...so i dunno if it's admissible or not, especially in Swedish courts, don't have a clue how they run

If it is admissible, then MD et al has problems. This will just be the first of many lawsuits, and you know the EFF will be looking at its options too.

cyrilthefish · 24th Sep 2007, 15:39

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Originally Posted by yakyb

but will the ruling be in favour of the blatent law breakers (TPB)

Well the whole reason TPB is still running is the fact they aren't breaking any laws. they don't actually host anything illegal

If linking to illegal material is against the law, all the search engines (google anyone?) would be in big trouble

Faulk_Wulf · 24th Sep 2007, 16:46

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Originally Posted by mmorgue

I never understood that concept -- "obtaining evidence illegally".

If the evidence does indeed prove 100% culpability, who cares how it was obtained? Ok, maybe the party being accussed but they're guilty so what does it matter?

If the email trail shows conclusive proof of MD's guilt and full evidence of the charges against them, why shouldn't it be included?

I get what you're saying and the point you're making but its for keeping police from raiding without a warrent and arresting first and asking questions later.

Or its supposed to. But certain people keep doing things without cause or warrants and holding people without charges so it kind of undermines my point.

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@cyrilthefish--

But isn't the key term "knowingly linking to illegal material". Google is a botted search engine. It just finds stuff. Google has filters for at least the pornographic stuff, but its still just bot-run. But torrents are (i thought) knowingly linked to by the users. Someone more informed then me-- clue me in.

Redbeaver · 24th Sep 2007, 16:46

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Originally Posted by cyrilthefish

Well the whole reason TPB is still running is the fact they aren't breaking any laws. they don't actually host anything illegal

If linking to illegal material is against the law, all the search engines (google anyone?) would be in big trouble

bam. everybody should just read this and shush!

Andy Mc · 25th Sep 2007, 12:53

I hope tpb take them all to the cleaners.

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mmorgue Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mos Eisley, in the bar... Posts: 378	I never understood that concept -- "obtaining evidence illegally". If the evidence does indeed prove 100% culpability, who cares how it was obtained? Ok, maybe the party being accussed but they're guilty so what does it matter? If the email trail shows conclusive proof of MD's guilt and full evidence of the charges against them, why shouldn't it be included?

24th Sep 2007, 14:57	#10
plagio Multimodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 141	Is there any statement from MD at all about the whole thing ?

24th Sep 2007, 15:22	#11
Hells_Bliss Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NC, USA Posts: 548	well technically the email motherload was obtained illegally, but not by TPB...so i dunno if it's admissible or not, especially in Swedish courts, don't have a clue how they run If it is admissible, then MD et al has problems. This will just be the first of many lawsuits, and you know the EFF will be looking at its options too. __________________ Asus P5N32-SLi Extreme, Intel Conroe E6600 @ 2.4GHz, 4GB Corsair XMS2 @ 1060MHz, eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX @ 621MHz, 2 WD 250GB 7200RPM HDD's, Creative Soundblaster Fatal1ty pro

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