Update: Windows Update update breaks updates - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 2nd Oct 2007, 14:01

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10...eaks_updates/1

The stealth update to Windows Update last month managed to break something - the ability to update Windows after using XP's recover feature.

Ferret · 2nd Oct 2007, 14:05

We need a windows update uptate update!

oddball walking · 2nd Oct 2007, 14:08

Or an updated update, which reminds me my updates aren't up to date.

leexgx · 2nd Oct 2007, 15:39

lol

Drexial · 2nd Oct 2007, 15:57

windows updates updates are never up to date as they should be updated to keep the updates up to date.

gvblake22 · 2nd Oct 2007, 17:06

Words can hardly describe this situation, so I'll do it with little pictures courtesy of bit-tech...

Buzzons · 2nd Oct 2007, 19:57

What's wrong with this, they fixed the issue within a DAY! That is good going. There are bugs in some things that remain unfixed for months/years/forever (oracle!)

Updates to the update engine are perfectly fair, you would want the latest one when you decide to get updates etc. (Also, only users with "non legit versions" of windows will have it disabled at home.. offices would uses SUS servers.. so that isn't an issue here)

completemadness · 2nd Oct 2007, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Buzzons

oracle!

I love how you say oracle has bugs that last forever/long time

But most of the "non-critical" bugs in windows takes months, if not years to get addressed
I guess the only reasons this was fixed so much is that it breaks a fixing solution for windows XP (which is pretty important for a MS OS) and because after the anger at the update happening, forcing a bugged piece of software on people would have caused an uproar

Da Dego · 2nd Oct 2007, 21:45

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Originally Posted by completemadness

I love how you say oracle has bugs that last forever/long time

But most of the "non-critical" bugs in windows takes months, if not years to get addressed
I guess the only reasons this was fixed so much is that it breaks a fixing solution for windows XP (which is pretty important for a MS OS) and because after the anger at the update happening, forcing a bugged piece of software on people would have caused an uproar

Uh...oracle DOES have bugs that seem to last forever...dunno if you really ever used it, but yeesh.

GoodBytes · 2nd Oct 2007, 22:43

1- I'm confused, the article talks about winXP or Vista. I see a Vista screen shot.
2- WinXP reparation is crap. It usually creates more problem than it repairs (form my experience) and takes the SAME TIME (close the the minute) then doing a fresh re-install including formating and re-installing yourself all the applications and doing the updates.

woodshop · 2nd Oct 2007, 22:43

i never wana see the word 'update' again...

completemadness · 3rd Oct 2007, 07:30

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Originally Posted by Da Dego

Uh...oracle DOES have bugs that seem to last forever...dunno if you really ever used it, but yeesh.

I'm just saying, hes bashing oracle when you can bash XP/Vista/MS on topic!

Edvuld · 3rd Oct 2007, 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoodBytes

2- WinXP reparation is crap. It usually creates more problem than it repairs (form my experience) and takes the SAME TIME (close the the minute) then doing a fresh re-install including formating and re-installing yourself all the applications and doing the updates.

I guess you don't have that many programs installed then... It's a breeze for those of us that sits a whole day or two configuring all the installed applications ><

GoodBytes · 3rd Oct 2007, 12:25

38 applications installed (just counted).

Edvuld · 3rd Oct 2007, 19:19

Ok, I had about 71 of them, anyways, I'm picky about everything and all settings beeing "just right", so it takes me at least a good 8 hours setting everything up on my normal system.

With windows repair I could even exchange the mainboard and CPU without any problem at all, and it'll only take maximum 2 hours total to get the drivers installed and win repaired

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Buzzons Mod Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,086	What's wrong with this, they fixed the issue within a DAY! That is good going. There are bugs in some things that remain unfixed for months/years/forever (oracle!) Updates to the update engine are perfectly fair, you would want the latest one when you decide to get updates etc. (Also, only users with "non legit versions" of windows will have it disabled at home.. offices would uses SUS servers.. so that isn't an issue here)

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