Manchester Cathedral still hates Resistance - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 8th Oct 2007, 10:40

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10...s_resistance/1

Manchester Cathedral is still flogging the Sony horse and is demanding the game be removed from the BAFTA nominations list.

mmorgue · 8th Oct 2007, 11:00

Sigh... A church is a public place. The game is fictional and completely made up, much like the religion the cathedral represents

Neither is a direct representation of the other. The "made up video game" has a section that merely takes place in/around the cathedral. How would that, in any way, impact the religious nature of the cathedral? No one is hurt, repressed or demeaned. The game hasn't said, "Down with Christianity" or anything like that.

Raiderfan001 · 8th Oct 2007, 11:18

I think more game makers should incorporate the Manchester Cathedral into their games just to spite them....lol

D3s3rt_F0x · 8th Oct 2007, 11:54

It is a disgrace this game got into the BAFTA's its an average shooter at best mmmkay.

The Church are obviously protesting to mirror my feelings.

whisperwolf · 8th Oct 2007, 11:56

Not this discussion again, can we not just link the 5 to 10 zillion threads we had about this last time, doubt that the arguments will have changed much since then.
One side: it's a public place and the game is fiction, author/designer is not saying anything about god just using it as a background, if it was a book they could use any setting they want and an occasional smug anti religious quip thrown in for good measure.
second side: not a public place owned by the church, if it had been a film it would have required permission to film how can taking lots of digital pictures and then rendering it for a game be any different, use of cathedral could give out the incorrect message that the cathedral (in a high gun crime area) thinks guns are cool and acceptable. Defensive arguments about religion thrown in.

how’s that for a summary

mikeuk2004 · 8th Oct 2007, 12:11

Next time im in Manchester, i want to film this place and then edit it blowing up with people inside running out on fire.

sub routine · 8th Oct 2007, 15:11

ok ok, I can understand that you can`t just go about doing what you wnat whenever you want. But the church seems to be milking it a bit to me, I could almost guarentee that Sony doesn`t have a vendetta with Christians (you never know though) and want to destroy the church. An open apology should denote that it has more than likely been a design oversight. I mena someone probably decided an atmospheric beautifully created surrounding would complement the game, which I suppose would be a complement to the church and it`s archietectural design. Thats my opinion anyway.
I haven`t played the game yet, mainly because Sony are bandits who haven`t really respected the European gamer IMO (until now that is) Â£299 ) Drool).

completemadness · 8th Oct 2007, 17:47

I don't see how your not allowed to do this ...

i mean, in Britain you have no right to conceal your face (or do anything if anyone takes a picture of you) why is a building any different?
Gotta love how buildings have more rights then people .....

Neat69 · 8th Oct 2007, 19:11

You know BAFTA's for video games are BS when somthing as mediocre as Resistance make ths short list.

Ahh.. checked and its only nominated for: THE PC WORLD GAMERS AWARD, which sounds like BS anyway

Strangley, alot of the games that are shortlisted ar not out yet: http://www.bafta.org/site/page413.html

themax · 8th Oct 2007, 19:21

Basically, with 1.7 million copies sold the Church of England is still crying for a cut of the pie.

E.E.L. Ambiense · 8th Oct 2007, 19:59

All I keep hearin' is "whaaaaaa...". I mean, come on! They have to be, at this point, the only church in the world that's both been in a cool console game AND sharing a name with an AMD Athlon 64 core!

DXR_13KE · 8th Oct 2007, 21:35

i consider this game a YAGS or Yet Another Generic Shooter... it has nothing that i consider that superior to any other game...... except for the part of using ww2 weapons against an alien invasion, and happening at the time of WW2..... braking the trend of yet another ww2 shooter, the cow is becoming tired of being milked....

AcidJiles · 16th Oct 2007, 19:08

i might buy a copy of the game and give it as a donation to the church during communion

8th Oct 2007, 10:40	#1
CardJoe Player Character bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,944	Manchester Cathedral still hates Resistance http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10...s_resistance/1 Manchester Cathedral is still flogging the Sony horse and is demanding the game be removed from the BAFTA nominations list. __________________ this is joe's non-bit-tech blog

8th Oct 2007, 11:54	#4
D3s3rt_F0x Hypermodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Near Middlesbrough Posts: 681	It is a disgrace this game got into the BAFTA's its an average shooter at best mmmkay. The Church are obviously protesting to mirror my feelings. __________________ "We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too." - JFK

8th Oct 2007, 11:56	#5
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	Not this discussion again, can we not just link the 5 to 10 zillion threads we had about this last time, doubt that the arguments will have changed much since then. One side: it's a public place and the game is fiction, author/designer is not saying anything about god just using it as a background, if it was a book they could use any setting they want and an occasional smug anti religious quip thrown in for good measure. second side: not a public place owned by the church, if it had been a film it would have required permission to film how can taking lots of digital pictures and then rendering it for a game be any different, use of cathedral could give out the incorrect message that the cathedral (in a high gun crime area) thinks guns are cool and acceptable. Defensive arguments about religion thrown in. how’s that for a summary __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr

8th Oct 2007, 12:11	#6
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8th Oct 2007, 19:59	#11
E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Malabar, FL Posts: 2,722	All I keep hearin' is "whaaaaaa...". I mean, come on! They have to be, at this point, the only church in the world that's both been in a cool console game AND sharing a name with an AMD Athlon 64 core! __________________ Latest Builds: "Movie Sign!" • CheckMate - MotM May '09 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • BluBawx I • Lumière Noire - MotM Apr. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Razzle Dazzle • CMC Field Server • "Building Better Worlds" - MotM Feb. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Biohazard • MicroSuperFly

8th Oct 2007, 11:00	#2
mmorgue Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mos Eisley, in the bar... Posts: 378	Sigh... A church is a public place. The game is fictional and completely made up, much like the religion the cathedral represents Neither is a direct representation of the other. The "made up video game" has a section that merely takes place in/around the cathedral. How would that, in any way, impact the religious nature of the cathedral? No one is hurt, repressed or demeaned. The game hasn't said, "Down with Christianity" or anything like that.

8th Oct 2007, 11:18	#3
Raiderfan001 I know what a Dremel is..... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marysville, CA Posts: 71	I think more game makers should incorporate the Manchester Cathedral into their games just to spite them....lol

8th Oct 2007, 15:11	#7
sub routine Archie Gemel Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 149	ok ok, I can understand that you can`t just go about doing what you wnat whenever you want. But the church seems to be milking it a bit to me, I could almost guarentee that Sony doesn`t have a vendetta with Christians (you never know though) and want to destroy the church. An open apology should denote that it has more than likely been a design oversight. I mena someone probably decided an atmospheric beautifully created surrounding would complement the game, which I suppose would be a complement to the church and it`s archietectural design. Thats my opinion anyway. I haven`t played the game yet, mainly because Sony are bandits who haven`t really respected the European gamer IMO (until now that is) Â£299 ) Drool).

8th Oct 2007, 17:47	#8
completemadness Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 887	I don't see how your not allowed to do this ... i mean, in Britain you have no right to conceal your face (or do anything if anyone takes a picture of you) why is a building any different? Gotta love how buildings have more rights then people .....

8th Oct 2007, 19:11	#9
Neat69 Modder Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 61	You know BAFTA's for video games are BS when somthing as mediocre as Resistance make ths short list. Ahh.. checked and its only nominated for: THE PC WORLD GAMERS AWARD, which sounds like BS anyway Strangley, alot of the games that are shortlisted ar not out yet: http://www.bafta.org/site/page413.html

8th Oct 2007, 19:21	#10
themax Hypermodder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 925	Basically, with 1.7 million copies sold the Church of England is still crying for a cut of the pie.

8th Oct 2007, 21:35	#12
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,466	i consider this game a YAGS or Yet Another Generic Shooter... it has nothing that i consider that superior to any other game...... except for the part of using ww2 weapons against an alien invasion, and happening at the time of WW2..... braking the trend of yet another ww2 shooter, the cow is becoming tired of being milked.... __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

16th Oct 2007, 19:08	#13
AcidJiles Multimodder Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 152	i might buy a copy of the game and give it as a donation to the church during communion