40GB PS3 could do backwards compatibility? - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 9th Oct 2007, 09:35

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10...mpatibility_/1

Apparently, Sony could make the new 40GB PlayStation 3 do backwards compatibility through software they just don't want to.

sandys · 9th Oct 2007, 09:44

At £350 for the full fat version I don't understand why people are moaning, I mean you get 2 games with the value pack if you didn't like them you could sell them for 20-30quid and end up with a PS3 that has full BC and a bigger HD for more or less the same money as the 40Gb, its a no brainer really.

BTW there is an inaccuracy in your article the 40Gb will play PS1 games as that has always been done fully in software rather than needing any hardware units.

Flibblebot · 9th Oct 2007, 09:45

In other news, in another kick to the balls of European gamers, the 40Gb PS3 is due to be launched in the US on November 2, at a price of $399.

And what's this about Sony's engineers working on "new features" for the PS3? Stop mucking around with the console, we don't need any more versions already!

mmorgue · 9th Oct 2007, 09:46

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The 40GB model, to be launched in Europe on 10th October, is a new model and is not equipped with any of the semi conductors from the PS2

Wait a minute. I could have sworn that our PAL PS3 machines *already* had this "feature"? I thought our backwards compat was software based? They removed the chips the NTSC/JAP editions had for cost reductions, etc.

So if that's the case, how would it be difficult at all? Unless of course the installed OS is drastically different on the new 40gig edition than that of the current ones available, wouldn't any of the firmware updates also include backward compat features?

Weird.....

sandys · 9th Oct 2007, 09:50

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Originally Posted by mmorgue

Wait a minute. I could have sworn that our PAL PS3 machines *already* had this "feature"? I thought our backwards compat was software based? They removed the chips the NTSC/JAP editions had for cost reductions, etc.

If you read the linked article you will see that the first JAP/US units has both a PS2 EE and GS chip, Euro and later PS3 in all territories had only the GS+, the 40Gb removes the GS+ chip.

sandys · 9th Oct 2007, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Flibblebot

In other news, in another kick to the balls of European gamers, the 40Gb PS3 is due to be launched in the US on November 2, at a price of $399.

Come on that is a tired old complaint and is the same for all hardware from each company when comparing US and UK prices not just Sony.

cjoyce1980 · 9th Oct 2007, 10:18

what happened to the good old days when here was just one verison on of a console from day one till the end of its life.

also is this sony admentting there screwed up with the PS3 and so they are starting to chop it to pieces to justiful the consoles existents

will. · 9th Oct 2007, 10:25

For once, I'm leaning more on Sony's side. Who cares? If I want to play a ps2 game or a ps1 game, I can break out those consoles... If anything I prefer having a whole stack of consoles on display. It gives me geek cred!

mikeuk2004 · 9th Oct 2007, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Flibblebot

In other news, in another kick to the balls of European gamers, the 40Gb PS3 is due to be launched in the US on November 2, at a price of $399.
!

How is that, sony have given a new cheaper version.

You go to a fiat Garage to buy a new punto, you dont get all the upgrades you get in the expensive model in the cheap model. If you did then there would not be 2 models.

Doh

If you want backwards compatibility then by the 60gb model. Simple. If you dont want to pay that then tuff, you got go with the cheaper model and miss out on a few things.

AlexB · 9th Oct 2007, 10:50

I dont see the problem. Buy the exprensive one if you want all the features. It's like whinging that the 360 CORE doesnt come with a HDD or Wireless Controller.

Who cares.

Edvuld · 9th Oct 2007, 11:21

Weel, I guess bit of the problem is that when the 60GB batch is sold out, there will be no more BC in any PS3 version, so for those still waiting for the price to drop some more, it sucks.

I'll keep my PS2 until it breaks so I can get perfect PS2 gaming...

Jordan Wise · 9th Oct 2007, 11:32

i have never owned a ps2, and as i am now old enough to work and can afford to buy one i'd rather get a ps3 which is b/c rather than fork out Â£80- Â£100 quid for a ps2 so i can cath up on the games i missed, namely the metal gears and ff games. I used to consider the ps3 having more value for money because it could play these games, but now its looking like more of a rip off to me

LeMaltor · 9th Oct 2007, 11:34

Old PS's breaking? I have 2 PS1's one was bought launch week and a PS2, all 3 of them still work

Veles · 9th Oct 2007, 11:43

I'm in the same camp that doesn't particularly care about backwards compatibility, I wouldn't mind it, but if it's not hardware BC, don't even bother. The only Xbox game I play on my 360 is Halo 2 (very occasionally), because of the poor BC I got with KotOR, if I want to play an original Xbox game, I play it on my old Xbox. I think BC is a great idea, if that means I need less boxes under my TV then that's great, but if it's going to be half assed software emulation, then IMO, don't even bother, it's crap.

@ LeMaltor: You're very lucky, the PS1 seems pretty sturdy, unfortunately I had my old one stolen so I can't comment on it's longevity, but I heard they're pretty good. PS2's however, I only know one person with a PS2 who didn't have it DRE on them.

mikeuk2004 · 9th Oct 2007, 12:11

My Ps1 never broke but my PS2 did. Ps2 only broke because I was living with students who pretty much beat the crap out of it and it refused to work.

I bought my PS2 the same time my bro did not long after the launch and his is still working and been passed onto our older brother for his kids. There is still life in that fat brick.

Omnituens · 9th Oct 2007, 12:36

BC is very important to me. I have 2 PS2, one for BC on UK games and one on BC for imports. Just wish the PS3 did both

TreeDude · 9th Oct 2007, 13:04

The thing to me is the fact that with one of the PS3 updates they added upsampling. So for people with HDTVs the PS2 games will look much better on the PS3 because the PS3 is doing the scaling and not the TV.

Sony also took out some of the PS2 chips from the 60gig model that reduced it's backwards compatibility.

zabe · 9th Oct 2007, 13:51

i don't see any problems either. it's not that sony doesn't WANT to put bw compatibility, just that looking at it from a business point of view, it's not productive for them in terms of cost/benefit. if you want to play ps2 games (as I do), just buy the high-end model, and don't start with that "it's too expensive" crap. anyone who can save money for a 400€ ps3 can wait a bit more and save further to buy the 600€ model. took you half-year to save 400€? well then, just be patient for other 3 months and you'll have the whole package. really, i just think it's a matter of planning ahead, saving and being patient to get what you want. you've got to earn it guys, things don't fall from the sky.

AlexB · 9th Oct 2007, 14:05

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Originally Posted by Veles

@ LeMaltor: You're very lucky, the PS1 seems pretty sturdy, unfortunately I had my old one stolen so I can't comment on it's longevity, but I heard they're pretty good. PS2's however, I only know one person with a PS2 who didn't have it DRE on them.

That's ********.
I've had my PS2 since launch day, and it still works fine. It's been chucked about, mistreated, and never fails to play games.

fleole · 9th Oct 2007, 14:24

Where can you find the different tech spec of the different model ??

Like said a guy before, where is the time when a console got the same tech spec from beginning to end.....

Console become like PC.... and I find that annoying.

9th Oct 2007, 09:35	#1
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9th Oct 2007, 09:44	#2
sandys Hypermodder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 914	At £350 for the full fat version I don't understand why people are moaning, I mean you get 2 games with the value pack if you didn't like them you could sell them for 20-30quid and end up with a PS3 that has full BC and a bigger HD for more or less the same money as the 40Gb, its a no brainer really. BTW there is an inaccuracy in your article the 40Gb will play PS1 games as that has always been done fully in software rather than needing any hardware units. __________________ Into Gaming and around Bristol, UK, Click Here

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Flibblebot Free from artificial flavourings Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Right here, right now Posts: 2,227	In other news, in another kick to the balls of European gamers, the 40Gb PS3 is due to be launched in the US on November 2, at a price of $399. And what's this about Sony's engineers working on "new features" for the PS3? Stop mucking around with the console, we don't need any more versions already! __________________ My uber-system: 66Mhz 486DX2, 8Mb RAM, 20Mb hard drive, 256 colour VGA adaptor (goes all the way up to 800x600!), keyboard AND serial mouse

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AlexB Web Nerd and WC Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 1,306	I dont see the problem. Buy the exprensive one if you want all the features. It's like whinging that the 360 CORE doesnt come with a HDD or Wireless Controller. Who cares. __________________ Whenever I smell asphalt, I think of Maureen. That's the last sensation I had before I blacked out; that thick smell of asphalt. She said she'd fix my bike. Free. No strings attached. I shoulda've known then that things were never that simple. Yeah, when I think of Maureen, I think of two things: Asphalt, and trouble.

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cjoyce1980 Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 343	what happened to the good old days when here was just one verison on of a console from day one till the end of its life. also is this sony admentting there screwed up with the PS3 and so they are starting to chop it to pieces to justiful the consoles existents

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9th Oct 2007, 13:04	#17
TreeDude Multimodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 238	The thing to me is the fact that with one of the PS3 updates they added upsampling. So for people with HDTVs the PS2 games will look much better on the PS3 because the PS3 is doing the scaling and not the TV. Sony also took out some of the PS2 chips from the 60gig model that reduced it's backwards compatibility.

9th Oct 2007, 13:51	#18
zabe Perfect in my imperfection Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 195	i don't see any problems either. it's not that sony doesn't WANT to put bw compatibility, just that looking at it from a business point of view, it's not productive for them in terms of cost/benefit. if you want to play ps2 games (as I do), just buy the high-end model, and don't start with that "it's too expensive" crap. anyone who can save money for a 400€ ps3 can wait a bit more and save further to buy the 600€ model. took you half-year to save 400€? well then, just be patient for other 3 months and you'll have the whole package. really, i just think it's a matter of planning ahead, saving and being patient to get what you want. you've got to earn it guys, things don't fall from the sky.

9th Oct 2007, 14:24	#20
fleole What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London Posts: 6	Where can you find the different tech spec of the different model ?? Like said a guy before, where is the time when a console got the same tech spec from beginning to end..... Console become like PC.... and I find that annoying.