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Tim S · 11th Oct 2007, 11:24

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10...w_processors/1

For the second time in under a month, AMD has quietly launched new processors. This time, it's in the Sempron and Athlon lineups.

Almightyrastus · 11th Oct 2007, 12:56

And here's me still running an Xp3000+ I feel so 5 years ago

mclean007 · 11th Oct 2007, 13:08

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Originally Posted by Almightyrastus

And here's me still running an Xp3000+ I feel so 5 years ago

Heh, my main (only) rig runs an XP2200+ and Radeon 9600 XT. Fear my power.

[USRF]Obiwan · 11th Oct 2007, 13:19

still on the s939 x2 4800. It will cost me a arm and leg to upgrade to am2+ so i wait till the am3 gets released.

Neoki · 11th Oct 2007, 13:32

To be honest, AMD release all these processors, shame they can't actually release one to give Intel some stick.

I see them realsing all the different ones that are under par. Yes we at work use the semprons for the cheaper PC's we build, but for the more expensive machines intel is what we use.

I still have a 4400+X2 at home but want to wait and see what AMD bring out.

Naberius · 11th Oct 2007, 13:51

One of my rigs still has a FX60 in it, looking to upgrade that one to match my other though.

I wouldn't mind an AMD to rival my intel's but at the moment they are just releasing pointless processors. Maybe Phenom will change that.

crazybob · 11th Oct 2007, 14:56

All you people saying "My rig still has {3-year-old beast processor} and I hope to upgrade it soon" make me feel left out. My computer still has a Sempron 3100 and it's not getting changed for probably six months.

That aside, a lot of people are missing a fairly exciting point about these new chips - their 45 watt power consumption. If you're looking to build a quiet computer as a server or media center, until recently the best you could do without using a stupidly expensive laptop processor was 65 watts. If they ultimately release dual-cores with the same consumption, that'll be a huge selling point. My opinion about processors at the moment is to buy the slowest full-featured dual core available (based on my own usage, so don't try arguing about that). If AMD will net me a quieter computer, I'll go with them.

devdevil85 · 11th Oct 2007, 16:06

Prices dropping is always a good thing to me. Also, with most people unable to afford a complete system upgrade (myself) or with people still waiting for hardware/features like DDR3 or AM3 to mature before they decide to upgrade, this is great news as they are able to upgrade for less money and see a performance gain while waiting for the cash flow to accumulate. I am still using an OC'd XP 2500+ which I have taken to a 3200+ along with an AGP X1600PRO.....so I'm feeling the pain.....trust me...

Shielder · 11th Oct 2007, 16:33

Lucky you. I couldn't get my XP2500 to overclock at all. It just refused to boot at anything over 166FSB! I gave up in the end. Still using it as my primary system, just about saved up enough to build a new system. Unfortunately, it will be an Intel machine. AMD just can't offer me the power that I can get from Intel.

Andy

devdevil85 · 11th Oct 2007, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Shielder

Lucky you. I couldn't get my XP2500 to overclock at all. It just refused to boot at anything over 166FSB!

Of course it depends on your mobo...but still that thing should OC easy. I haven't raised the Core Voltage or anything and have the RAM at a 1:1 ratio....currently I have it at 198FSB...w/ a 11x multiplier.....with an aftermarket Thermaltake HS on it......it's running at around 44 celcius full load......lately though my system's been hanging while playing Oblivion and I've had to hardboot so I may drop it or I may raise the voltage idk.....I just wish I could figure out why it's hanging considering it shouldn't be temperature-related.....and I'm not OCing my video card either so....

completemadness · 11th Oct 2007, 17:25

Does anyone know of a good graph with all the Intel and AMD processors on it? (i know ive seen one before ...) And possibly another with bang/$ ? (more hassle to keep it updated with prices though)

AMD procs are soo cheap, I'm interested in knowing when your better off with each company ....

If not, perhaps somthing bit-tech could do

crazybob · 11th Oct 2007, 18:26

Tom's Hardware maintains pretty good lists at http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html, although they don't have every processor.

Redbeaver · 11th Oct 2007, 19:08

i have 2 box at home: XP2500+ @2.4Ghz, and s939 X2-3800+ @2.925Ghz.

now i wonder how people (and alot of them stilll im sure) would wanna pick up an AM2 socket these days???? s939 is, IMHO, AMD's last great bastion. AM2 is a so-so product that got swallowed the second it was born by Core2Duo architecture.

completemadness · 11th Oct 2007, 19:22

AM2 just added DDR2 to the mix as far as I'm aware, so it wasn't a huge plus
Also at the time DDR2 was more expensive

devdevil85 · 11th Oct 2007, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Redbeaver

i have 2 box at home: XP2500+ @2.4Ghz

Red, how did you get your 2500+ to 2.4Ghz????? do you game with it? because I can only get mine to 2.2Ghz before it just hangs every other minute....

LeMaltor · 11th Oct 2007, 23:17

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Originally Posted by devdevil85

Red, how did you get your 2500+ to 2.4Ghz????? do you game with it? because I can only get mine to 2.2Ghz before it just hangs every other minute....

2.4 should be attainable on air, its only 11.5 x 20X FSB

devdevil85 · 12th Oct 2007, 17:56

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Originally Posted by LeMaltor

2.4 should be attainable on air, its only 11.5 x 20X FSB

Maybe it's my Generic RAM giving me issues....but there is no way for me to OC to that speed......I've tried.....

Shielder · 15th Oct 2007, 08:24

Ah, the wonders of the unlocked multiplier! I got a locked 2500 and every time I tried to up the fsb, it wouldn't even post. Like I said, I gave up in the end (grief from wife had something to do with it...) but I'm looking to get a quad core jobbie in the new year (after sprog no 2 arrives) and I'm definately going to try again with the overclocks...

Andy

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11th Oct 2007, 12:56	#2
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11th Oct 2007, 13:19	#4
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11th Oct 2007, 13:32	#5
Neoki Hypermodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lincoln Posts: 869	To be honest, AMD release all these processors, shame they can't actually release one to give Intel some stick. I see them realsing all the different ones that are under par. Yes we at work use the semprons for the cheaper PC's we build, but for the more expensive machines intel is what we use. I still have a 4400+X2 at home but want to wait and see what AMD bring out. __________________ My Main Rig:\|AMD 64 FX60 @ Stock\|DFI LanParty SLI-DR \| PC Power & Cooling 510 SLI EXTREME \|2 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer \| 8800GTS \| X-Fi Titanium Fatality®™ \| Logitech® Z-5500 5.1\|Hitachi 250GB x 3, 400GB, 160Gb, 120GB, SATA\|Pioneer DVD-Rewriter Drive Black x 2 \|

11th Oct 2007, 16:33	#9
Shielder Live long & prosper! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northwich, UK Posts: 516	Lucky you. I couldn't get my XP2500 to overclock at all. It just refused to boot at anything over 166FSB! I gave up in the end. Still using it as my primary system, just about saved up enough to build a new system. Unfortunately, it will be an Intel machine. AMD just can't offer me the power that I can get from Intel. Andy __________________ New Rig: GA-X38-DS5, Q6600 (running at stock until I get everything installed), 8GB OCZ RAM (not sure on timings), Inno3D 8800 GTS 512, Noctua NH-U12P heat sink, Hiper Type M 580, 4 HDDs, 2 opticals, Saitek Eclipse II keyboard, Sharkoon Rush gaming mouse, Samsung 2220WM monitor, running XP SP2 (32-bit), Vista HP (x64) and Fedora 9 Beta (x86-64).

11th Oct 2007, 13:51	#6
Naberius Multimodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Posts: 193	One of my rigs still has a FX60 in it, looking to upgrade that one to match my other though. I wouldn't mind an AMD to rival my intel's but at the moment they are just releasing pointless processors. Maybe Phenom will change that.

11th Oct 2007, 14:56	#7
crazybob Voice of Reason Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,120	All you people saying "My rig still has {3-year-old beast processor} and I hope to upgrade it soon" make me feel left out. My computer still has a Sempron 3100 and it's not getting changed for probably six months. That aside, a lot of people are missing a fairly exciting point about these new chips - their 45 watt power consumption. If you're looking to build a quiet computer as a server or media center, until recently the best you could do without using a stupidly expensive laptop processor was 65 watts. If they ultimately release dual-cores with the same consumption, that'll be a huge selling point. My opinion about processors at the moment is to buy the slowest full-featured dual core available (based on my own usage, so don't try arguing about that). If AMD will net me a quieter computer, I'll go with them.

11th Oct 2007, 16:06	#8
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	Prices dropping is always a good thing to me. Also, with most people unable to afford a complete system upgrade (myself) or with people still waiting for hardware/features like DDR3 or AM3 to mature before they decide to upgrade, this is great news as they are able to upgrade for less money and see a performance gain while waiting for the cash flow to accumulate. I am still using an OC'd XP 2500+ which I have taken to a 3200+ along with an AGP X1600PRO.....so I'm feeling the pain.....trust me...

11th Oct 2007, 17:25	#11
completemadness Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 887	Does anyone know of a good graph with all the Intel and AMD processors on it? (i know ive seen one before ...) And possibly another with bang/$ ? (more hassle to keep it updated with prices though) AMD procs are soo cheap, I'm interested in knowing when your better off with each company .... If not, perhaps somthing bit-tech could do

11th Oct 2007, 18:26	#12
crazybob Voice of Reason Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,120	Tom's Hardware maintains pretty good lists at http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html, although they don't have every processor.

11th Oct 2007, 19:08	#13
Redbeaver Hypermodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ontario, CANADA Posts: 719	i have 2 box at home: XP2500+ @2.4Ghz, and s939 X2-3800+ @2.925Ghz. now i wonder how people (and alot of them stilll im sure) would wanna pick up an AM2 socket these days???? s939 is, IMHO, AMD's last great bastion. AM2 is a so-so product that got swallowed the second it was born by Core2Duo architecture. __________________ Monita DFI NF4 Expert - X2 3800+ 2.925Ghz - 2x1Gb OCZ Gold XTC DDR500 - 2x eVGA 7900GT SLI - 2x80Gb Seagate 7200.9 [RAID-0 4k] - Enermax Liberty 500 - Vista Ultimate x86 - Silverstone Kublai [Modded] Keisha DFI BloodIron P35 - Q6600 3.6Ghz - 4x1Gb OCZ Gold XTC2 DDR2-800 - eVGA 8800GTS 640MB - 2x80Gb Seagate 7200.9 [RAID-0 4k] - OCZ GameXstream 700 - Vista Ultimate x86 - Silverstone TJ-06 [Modded] www.pecelayam.com

11th Oct 2007, 19:22	#14
completemadness Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 887	AM2 just added DDR2 to the mix as far as I'm aware, so it wasn't a huge plus Also at the time DDR2 was more expensive

15th Oct 2007, 08:24	#18
Shielder Live long & prosper! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northwich, UK Posts: 516	Ah, the wonders of the unlocked multiplier! I got a locked 2500 and every time I tried to up the fsb, it wouldn't even post. Like I said, I gave up in the end (grief from wife had something to do with it...) but I'm looking to get a quad core jobbie in the new year (after sprog no 2 arrives) and I'm definately going to try again with the overclocks... Andy __________________ New Rig: GA-X38-DS5, Q6600 (running at stock until I get everything installed), 8GB OCZ RAM (not sure on timings), Inno3D 8800 GTS 512, Noctua NH-U12P heat sink, Hiper Type M 580, 4 HDDs, 2 opticals, Saitek Eclipse II keyboard, Sharkoon Rush gaming mouse, Samsung 2220WM monitor, running XP SP2 (32-bit), Vista HP (x64) and Fedora 9 Beta (x86-64).