[10/07] Autumn in the park - bit-tech.net Forums

ajack · 21st Oct 2007, 20:32

Had a bit of spare time yesterday so went for a bit of a ride around and came across this park. There was a specific scene I wanted to shoot (this wasn't it) but then I realised I'd left my CF card in the card reader at home and by the time I'd ridden back, got it and come back, the light was fading quite a bit and so I couldn't get the shot I wanted. If I have time, I'll go back when I get my 10-20 back from being repaired and try it again.

I'm sort of half happy with this shot - because it was getting dark I had to do a 3s exposure so some of the leaves are a bit blurred and I don't really like that. Still, it's been a while since I entered something.

10D, f/22, 3.2s, ISO100, 50mm

olv · 21st Oct 2007, 20:48

mmm, there's a really nice soft quality to the shot. I think the blurred leaves make it really. feels a lot like an IR shot. i'd be tempted to push for more contrast in the foreground though. crops seems a little tight too?

OleJ · 22nd Oct 2007, 00:40

I agree with you on the leaves. And like olv I'd like a bit more contrast. A very beautiful scene though! I love that lamp and the fact that its hat isn't straight on, but on the verge of falling off

I like!

Nexxo · 22nd Oct 2007, 10:03

The picture is perfect. Don't change anything (it doesn't need toe border though).

alastor · 22nd Oct 2007, 10:29

Agreed, I really like it.

olv · 22nd Oct 2007, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexxo

The picture is perfect. Don't change anything (it doesn't need toe border though).

no photograph is perfect. the idea of a 'perfect' photo is silly, it's a completely abstract concept with far too many variables for it to be realistically achieved.

Hwulex · 22nd Oct 2007, 12:55

Great pick ajack, really like it.

Nexxo · 22nd Oct 2007, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by olv

no photograph is perfect. the idea of a 'perfect' photo is silly, it's a completely abstract concept with far too many variables for it to be realistically achieved.

Now surely you are kidding?

I was just using a figure of speech. When I say this photo is cheesecake I am not really comparing it to a piece of pastry either.

supermonkey · 22nd Oct 2007, 15:20

Sitting here at my uncalibrated office monitor, this looks like a very nice photograph. I really love the tones throughout; I don't think you need to adjust the contrast at all. I agree with olv in that this almost feels like an IR shot.

The tree trunks, fallen leaves, lamp, and (what I assume are) bicycle racks are all sharp, so I know that the blurred leaves were not caused by bad camera work. As such, I think the blurred leaves add an element of movement to the image. I think that helps accentuate the feeling of a cool, breezy Autumn day.

The only complaint I have is that it's not in color. As a black and white artistic photo, I think it's great. As an image that emotes "Autumn," the lack of color makes it hard for me to get in the right mood.

-monkey

spec · 22nd Oct 2007, 17:10

Nice photography skills this photo has something special 2 it

olv · 22nd Oct 2007, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexxo

Now surely you are kidding?

I was just using a figure of speech. When I say this photo is cheesecake I am not really comparing it to a piece of pastry either.

just illustrating how useless this forum is most of the time for critique. no one is ever going to get any better because no one ever suggests any useful or interesting insight into how the shot could have been different whether it be composition, technique or processing.

all you ever get is a load of 'WOW YEAH AMAZING I REALLY LIKE THAT'... it's great

walle · 23rd Oct 2007, 00:38

I like it, the sharpness of the lamp post combined with the "warm fuzzy background" gives me the impression of two separate photos merged into one. No, I'm no art / photo critics, and perhaps I even lack the vocabulary skill to put it better...well, sue me; I think the photo is great and its also nice to see an autumn photo without colour, in this case it works perfectly.

Cheers.

Nexxo · 23rd Oct 2007, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by olv

just illustrating how useless this forum is most of the time for critique. no one is ever going to get any better because no one ever suggests any useful or interesting insight into how the shot could have been different whether it be composition, technique or processing.

all you ever get is a load of 'WOW YEAH AMAZING I REALLY LIKE THAT'... it's great

So positive feedback about what you did well is not useful?

It is possible to get too critical. Don't forget that in the end, photography is just about making interesting pictures.

OleJ · 23rd Oct 2007, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexxo

So positive feedback about what you did well is not useful?

It is possible to get too critical. Don't forget that in the end, photography is just about making interesting pictures.

I just want to say I agree with both of you :-D

olv · 23rd Oct 2007, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nexxo

So positive feedback about what you did well is not useful?

Not when someone simply says "I really like that", no.

Nexxo · 23rd Oct 2007, 19:49

I wonder what sex is like for you (and your girlfriend/wife)...

olv · 23rd Oct 2007, 21:44

I wonder why you're so odd

<A88> · 23rd Oct 2007, 21:56

I wonder how they keep you two apart at playschool. Come on guys, this is a photo discussion thread, keep your handbags on your shoulders and accept you're not going to agree regardless. There's no problem in saying 'this photo is perfect' if Nexxo doesn't think it can be easily improved upon...if you do, then tell us how, don't start trying to ignite a war of words with someone who simply projects his views differently to you.

<A88>

Nexxo · 24th Oct 2007, 10:57

My remark may seem flippant, but it makes a point: although improving one's technique of course enhances the enjoyment, the point of the activity in the end is the enjoyment it generates, not to improve the technique.

But <A88> is right: back on topic.

21st Oct 2007, 20:32	#1
ajack rox Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: /home Posts: 2,696	[10/07] Autumn in the park Had a bit of spare time yesterday so went for a bit of a ride around and came across this park. There was a specific scene I wanted to shoot (this wasn't it) but then I realised I'd left my CF card in the card reader at home and by the time I'd ridden back, got it and come back, the light was fading quite a bit and so I couldn't get the shot I wanted. If I have time, I'll go back when I get my 10-20 back from being repaired and try it again. I'm sort of half happy with this shot - because it was getting dark I had to do a 3s exposure so some of the leaves are a bit blurred and I don't really like that. Still, it's been a while since I entered something. 10D, f/22, 3.2s, ISO100, 50mm __________________ ajack.org DA \| Flickr select from pants;* Last edited by ajack; 21st Oct 2007 at 20:38.

21st Oct 2007, 20:48	#2
olv he's so bright Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,334	mmm, there's a really nice soft quality to the shot. I think the blurred leaves make it really. feels a lot like an IR shot. i'd be tempted to push for more contrast in the foreground though. crops seems a little tight too? __________________ i have many leather bound books

22nd Oct 2007, 00:40	#3
OleJ Me! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,986	I agree with you on the leaves. And like olv I'd like a bit more contrast. A very beautiful scene though! I love that lamp and the fact that its hat isn't straight on, but on the verge of falling off I like! __________________ Quickr! Clickr to my Flickr! Canon camera stuff. Some aluminium PC, an HTPC and a MBP 17"..

22nd Oct 2007, 10:03	#4
Nexxo ...like a geek! Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 15,111	The picture is perfect. Don't change anything (it doesn't need toe border though). __________________ "You actually hope to achieve your ideals, I just use mine as an excuse to hate everything" --specofdust "There is no Real Life, only Away From Keyboard" --gpw111 "...my wife says I can't have any trolls, cause they argue with the dog and eat the fish" --KayinBlack

22nd Oct 2007, 10:29	#5
alastor Mod Master Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,501	Agreed, I really like it. __________________ Main Rig: C2D E6850 (3.0GHz) : Asus P5E (X38) : 4GB XMS2 PC6400 : HD4870 512MB : Enermax 620W : 2 x Samsung F1 1TB : Antec P182 Laptop: Turion64 ML-34 (1.8Ghz/1MB) : 1GiB Hyundai : Mobility Radeon X700 128MB : 100GB Seagate HDD My Flickr : My Gamercard

22nd Oct 2007, 12:55	#7
Hwulex Freerider Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Camberley-ish, UK FR: Progressive Posts: 3,995	Great pick ajack, really like it. __________________ Clickr my Flickr

22nd Oct 2007, 15:20	#9
supermonkey Space Monkey Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,710	Sitting here at my uncalibrated office monitor, this looks like a very nice photograph. I really love the tones throughout; I don't think you need to adjust the contrast at all. I agree with olv in that this almost feels like an IR shot. The tree trunks, fallen leaves, lamp, and (what I assume are) bicycle racks are all sharp, so I know that the blurred leaves were not caused by bad camera work. As such, I think the blurred leaves add an element of movement to the image. I think that helps accentuate the feeling of a cool, breezy Autumn day. The only complaint I have is that it's not in color. As a black and white artistic photo, I think it's great. As an image that emotes "Autumn," the lack of color makes it hard for me to get in the right mood. -monkey __________________ But of bliss and of glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song. -J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion

22nd Oct 2007, 17:10	#10
spec What's a Dremel? Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 16	Nice photography skills this photo has something special 2 it

23rd Oct 2007, 00:38	#12
walle Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 364	I like it, the sharpness of the lamp post combined with the "warm fuzzy background" gives me the impression of two separate photos merged into one. No, I'm no art / photo critics, and perhaps I even lack the vocabulary skill to put it better...well, sue me; I think the photo is great and its also nice to see an autumn photo without colour, in this case it works perfectly. Cheers.

23rd Oct 2007, 19:49	#16
Nexxo ...like a geek! Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 15,111	I wonder what sex is like for you (and your girlfriend/wife)... __________________ "You actually hope to achieve your ideals, I just use mine as an excuse to hate everything" --specofdust "There is no Real Life, only Away From Keyboard" --gpw111 "...my wife says I can't have any trolls, cause they argue with the dog and eat the fish" --KayinBlack

23rd Oct 2007, 21:44	#17
olv he's so bright Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 3,334	I wonder why you're so odd __________________ i have many leather bound books

23rd Oct 2007, 21:56	#18
<A88> Trust the Computer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 4,797	I wonder how they keep you two apart at playschool. Come on guys, this is a photo discussion thread, keep your handbags on your shoulders and accept you're not going to agree regardless. There's no problem in saying 'this photo is perfect' if Nexxo doesn't think it can be easily improved upon...if you do, then tell us how, don't start trying to ignite a war of words with someone who simply projects his views differently to you. <A88> __________________ TheCounterfit.co.uk Twitter Facebook Last.fm Flickr! FriendFeed

24th Oct 2007, 10:57	#19
Nexxo ...like a geek! Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 15,111	My remark may seem flippant, but it makes a point: although improving one's technique of course enhances the enjoyment, the point of the activity in the end is the enjoyment it generates, not to improve the technique. But <A88> is right: back on topic. __________________ "You actually hope to achieve your ideals, I just use mine as an excuse to hate everything" --specofdust "There is no Real Life, only Away From Keyboard" --gpw111 "...my wife says I can't have any trolls, cause they argue with the dog and eat the fish" --KayinBlack