News Microsoft invests £117m in Facebook

[CardJoe]

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10..._in_facebook/1

Microsoft has won its battle against Google for claiming stake in Facebook. The social networking site is now valued at £7.3 billion thanks to a £117 million investment.

[Bauul]

They have their place, and Facebook is a perfect example of website which got social networking down maturely and sensibly, unlike say MySpace, so I say long live it. I've always been very impressed by Facebook, I think it's rather none flashy presentation and simple interface appeals to a lot of people who are put off by the entire notion of social networking.

To be honest, I think there are two different ways people use such sites. Some people actually use them to network, to meet and interact with people. Most people though I think simply use it as a) an easy way to contact your friends, it's so more casual than email and b) download media from your friends, e.g. photos and music. There ability to simplify contacting your mates remotely is what fuels their success I believe.

[Gunblade]

It's a Microtrend bit-tech. Not a fad! A magical money making machine!

Well good on MS. Hopefully their investment does what they wanted. Jeesh, to think all the money over the years that MS has put into company's. Even Apple right?

[Mankz]

Please don't muck uf Facebook Microsoft! Please!

Facebook is far better than MSN spaces, MySpace and all that stuff becuase it works properly and you can actually have some privacy...

[Gunblade]

Originally Posted by Bauul

They have their place, and Facebook is a perfect example of website which got social networking down maturely and sensibly, unlike say MySpace, so I say long live it. I've always been very impressed by Facebook, I think it's rather none flashy presentation and simple interface appeals to a lot of people who are put off by the entire notion of social networking.

To be honest, I think there are two different ways people use such sites. Some people actually use them to network, to meet and interact with people. Most people though I think simply use it as a) an easy way to contact your friends, it's so more casual than email and b) download media from your friends, e.g. photos and music. There ability to simplify contacting your mates remotely is what fuels their success I believe.

Mature? Are you kidding me! It can be as immature as myspace, and I see it all the time. Sure it's presented in a more eye-pleasing way....

[Veles]

Originally Posted by Bauul

They have their place, and Facebook is a perfect example of website which got social networking down maturely and sensibly, unlike say MySpace, so I say long live it. I've always been very impressed by Facebook, I think it's rather none flashy presentation and simple interface appeals to a lot of people who are put off by the entire notion of social networking.

Yeah I haven't liked social networking sites at all before, but I think Facebook is actually decent. I'm hoping though that it stays less cluttered, the thing that makes it better than myspace is that you aren't greeted with people's crappy music and awful wallpaper every time you click on someone's name. Still, I rarely use it, but I think it's a hell of a lot better than myspace.

[Jamie]

That is an insane amount of money for such a small stake in the company. Obviously Microsoft can see a way of getting the return from that investment, I just don't see it myself.

[Veles]

Well MS don't seem that bothered about losing a bit of money, MSN, their gaming devision, both are making losses if I recall. It might just have been a move to make sure Google didn't get it.

[Mister_Tad]

I can't help but think social networking (and so many other "web 2.0" sites) are headed for a repeat of the 2001 crash.

I suppose MS putting in £117m is a bit like me investing a tenner though (mind you, not even a penny of mine is touching any of them). Valuing facebook at 7bn though, "bubble 2.0"?

[will.]

I think the best thing about facebook is it can, if you want it to be, very closed off from people you don't want looking at your profile. I only let friends view my photos and profile and I very rarely accept new friend requests.
Still, I hate the weird way people boast about their huge friend lists. Are those people all your friends then? If someone I don't like or don't even know asks to be my friend I'm damn well not going to let them view my profile. I even got asked once by someone who I knew in school that I bumped into on a night out why I hadn't accepted them as a friend. My reply of I'm not your friend, and I hope never to be (this wasn't a nice person) was given a funny look and then a quick shuffle of to the corner they came from.

[Nova]

im an american college student. Facebook is on the way down. To many college students facebook is simply a way to kill time and put off homework. to others its a way to catch up with a cute girl from the drunken encounter the night before. I think facebook is on the way down and out, and will be replaced by another up and coming networking site. hard to say what that will be though. facebook is a force to be reckoned with in the college crowd.

[Firehed]

Originally Posted by Mister_Tad

I can't help but think social networking (and so many other "web 2.0" sites) are headed for a repeat of the 2001 crash.

I suppose MS putting in £117m is a bit like me investing a tenner though (mind you, not even a penny of mine is touching any of them). Valuing facebook at 7bn though, "bubble 2.0"?

Probably true... there's very little actual social value to things like Facebook. When I was at school, it was just a way to waste time, by and large. It was a bit interesting to see what people are up to, but I can find out just as easily by checking their AIM away messages. At this point, the only value to Facebook is having an online portable address book.

[Pimp Daddy]

Hold on - they've only bought 1.6% of Facebook - it doesn't really give Microsoft a stranglehold. Facebook could also accept further investment from Google at some point in the future (if it wanted).

[MilkMan5]

This deal goes beyond just a simple investment or a 1.6% share in Facebook.

Facebook has over 50 million users (worldwide) and growing, I read somewhere that Facebook on average, adds 200,000 new users a day.
This is a huge database, worth a lot more than just £117mil.
The bigger the user base, the more advertising they can attract.

It would be interesting to know what is the average “income/salary) of people registered to Facebook.
This should give you some idea of the wealth and potential extra revenue Microsoft could generate.

Facebook advertising can be very targeted, for examples, lets say you like cars, Facebook could possibility only have Car advertising when you log in.
They know this because Facebook knows what your hobbies are.

Facebook could have the potential of be its own “web”.

Google very much wanted a part of this pie, but MS beat them to it.
The fight between MS and Google is personal but mixed with business sense.

I personally don't think Facebook is worth US$ 15billion, although that is what MS claim Facebook is now worth.

[Mister_Tad]

Originally Posted by MilkMan5

It would be interesting to know what is the average “income/salary) of people registered to Facebook.

Is there actually a field in one's profile to enter this? Or is that just a generic statement
(if the former, who the hell would fill it in!?!)

[mclean007]

Let's not get carried away. Microsoft's investment doesn't value Facebook at $15bn. Fact. MS paid what they did for two reasons:

(1) Lock-out. 1.6% may not be a large stake but there is a little thing called a shareholders' agreement (i.e. a contract between shareholders as to how they will act). MS will undoubtedly have negotiated an agreement that gives them veto over shares being sold to Google etc.
(2) Exclusivity. Facebook may only generate maybe $150m of revenues this year, and 1.6% of that isn't very much - certainly not a decent return on a $240m investment. MS doesn't care. Let's not forget that with every ad the revenue is split - Facebook gets some and the ad server gets some. What MS is really interested in is the 100% of its own cut of the ad revenues, and by spending $240m on Facebook stock you can bet MS just bought themselves exclusive access to serve up ads on Facebook.

[mclean007]

And, as a nice aside, it gets Facebook in the news far more than a simple behind-closed-doors ad deal would do. "Facebook Valued At $15bn" makes a nice headline for the sensationalist press.

[Mankz]

Originally Posted by will.

I think the best thing about facebook is it can, if you want it to be, very closed off from people you don't want looking at your profile. I only let friends view my photos and profile and I very rarely accept new friend requests.
Still, I hate the weird way people boast about their huge friend lists. Are those people all your friends then? If someone I don't like or don't even know asks to be my friend I'm damn well not going to let them view my profile. I even got asked once by someone who I knew in school that I bumped into on a night out why I hadn't accepted them as a friend. My reply of I'm not your friend, and I hope never to be (this wasn't a nice person) was given a funny look and then a quick shuffle of to the corner they came from.

Amen. I have people that I call friends, and simply ignore all the other randomers...

[yodasarmpit]

As others have said this is simply a way of preventing Google getting in there first, much like BSkyB's 17% stake in ITV preventing Virgin buying out ITV.

[mikeuk2004]

Ms has too much money and not enough things to spend it on. THis will be like ever day joe spending his spare change on a Mars Bar.