Eye of Judgement cards can be copied - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 26th Oct 2007, 11:39

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10...an_be_copied/1

Sony reckoned that the cards for the new Eye of Judgement PS3 card game were copy proof. Sony were wrong though and the cards apparently scan fine.

cjoyce1980 · 26th Oct 2007, 11:45

...this was like saying that its impossible to copy money

the only thing that stops you is the correct tools

quack · 26th Oct 2007, 12:02

http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20071026

mikeuk2004 · 26th Oct 2007, 12:14

Well, theres always cheats out there and they will do. Just takes the fun away and all should have their hands chopped off

whisperwolf · 26th Oct 2007, 12:29

In all honesty I could see this making the game more appealing for more people. from what I remember of trading card games (and we are talking nearly 20 years ago before puberty and realising girls aren't yucky) cards could be bought singularly from trading shops a vastly increased prices depending on the "rarity". Therefore the only thing that stopped people having the ultimate deck was lack of funds, and people with large amounts of cash had uber decks that used to stomp my natural deck into the ground. If all the cards can be printed off and scanned it becomes a game of deck building and not infinite wallet abusing. Along with this the card collecting people can have fun trading their cards, buying boosters and getting their own nice "real" decks the way they have always done. The only effect this thing will have is that Wizards of the coast and Sony won't be getting money for booster packs that people who would not really buy booster packs and just want to play a game, won't be buying.

DXR_13KE · 26th Oct 2007, 13:12

seriously, Wizards of the coast and sony does not have a lab to test these things?
i mean.... my right nut could do better copy protection than that..... they could have put rfid tags on the cards.... or even increase the resolution of the camera.... or both..... and of course make them cheap so that more people could buy them and make them more profit.

Kipman725 · 26th Oct 2007, 13:36

Interesting game concept never seen anything like it.

wolff000 · 26th Oct 2007, 14:14

I love the concept of this game alas I don't own a PS3 and won't anytime soon. However I don't think copying cards is cheating. I for one don't have the money to pour into buying cards for a video game I already own. I know that is part of the game but it just ensures that those with the cash will usually win. Unfair in my opinion, which is why I'm against buying characters and gear in other games. This just levels the playing field. Unfortunately it means a single person can have multiples of a really powerful card. That I am totally against as it is cheating.

Salazaar · 26th Oct 2007, 15:07

So Sony's latest attempt to steal everyone's cash has totally backfired (i.e. the Pokemon ploy) because they forgot to do their homework and expected everyone to just believe them when they said these cards can't be copied. Well now the game's pretty much ruined, all anyone who want to win online has to do is to download whatever cards they need off whichever torrent site that inevitably hosts them and print them off. The only way to prevent using illegal cards is for both players to be there in person... pretty much negating the purpose of the whole kit and caboodle. D'oh!

Actually I think it's a bit of a shame, I thought it was quite a nice idea (despite the money grubbing aspect of it) which is now rendered pointless. Still, I wasn't planning on buying a PS3 so I'll just sit here and laugh at Sony.

Tulatin · 26th Oct 2007, 18:12

Oh, don't we all just love TCGs... I suppose Sony never learns their lesson with assuming, but WOTC? ****, i don't blame them. MTG is/was huge, Pokemon was a subsequent wallet raper (and now, source of cheap card)...

rhuitron · 28th Oct 2007, 08:47

The person at Sony that first saw the hack Went, "DOH!"

It makes me Happy.

Dev25 · 28th Oct 2007, 20:25

At first i was like wtf is this game about it looks interesting (Well the concept). But after seeing this der probaly like oh f*ck. 1 more problem to the ps3

pozo · 29th Oct 2007, 11:44

I think TCG are ripoffs anyhow, so I'm happy this happened :-) The only thing is the possibility of cheating with rare cards, however this could be patched out of the game via a 'maximal deck power' system or something like that. I don't know the game's rules, but you could perhaps require that 'attack points + defence points < 100 per deck'.

Seeknay25 · 2nd Nov 2007, 01:29

Yah, some sites even have all 110 cards uploaded. http://www.nextgenboards.com/vb/eye-...ent-cards.html
That site you just have to quickly register and you can see all the cards, its simple, easy, did it and it worked.

26th Oct 2007, 11:39	#1
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26th Oct 2007, 12:14	#4
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26th Oct 2007, 12:29	#5
whisperwolf Ultramodder Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,194	In all honesty I could see this making the game more appealing for more people. from what I remember of trading card games (and we are talking nearly 20 years ago before puberty and realising girls aren't yucky) cards could be bought singularly from trading shops a vastly increased prices depending on the "rarity". Therefore the only thing that stopped people having the ultimate deck was lack of funds, and people with large amounts of cash had uber decks that used to stomp my natural deck into the ground. If all the cards can be printed off and scanned it becomes a game of deck building and not infinite wallet abusing. Along with this the card collecting people can have fun trading their cards, buying boosters and getting their own nice "real" decks the way they have always done. The only effect this thing will have is that Wizards of the coast and Sony won't be getting money for booster packs that people who would not really buy booster packs and just want to play a game, won't be buying. __________________ "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. " Voltaire. My Flickr

26th Oct 2007, 13:12	#6
DXR_13KE Madeira's banana is the best!!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Madeira ; Portugal Posts: 6,469	seriously, Wizards of the coast and sony does not have a lab to test these things? i mean.... my right nut could do better copy protection than that..... they could have put rfid tags on the cards.... or even increase the resolution of the camera.... or both..... and of course make them cheap so that more people could buy them and make them more profit. __________________ *Renegade X - 0.40 Release!* <---- CLICK!

26th Oct 2007, 11:45	#2
cjoyce1980 Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 343	...this was like saying that its impossible to copy money the only thing that stops you is the correct tools

26th Oct 2007, 13:36	#7
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26th Oct 2007, 14:14	#8
wolff000 I am here to steal your secrets. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Never-never Land Posts: 196	I love the concept of this game alas I don't own a PS3 and won't anytime soon. However I don't think copying cards is cheating. I for one don't have the money to pour into buying cards for a video game I already own. I know that is part of the game but it just ensures that those with the cash will usually win. Unfair in my opinion, which is why I'm against buying characters and gear in other games. This just levels the playing field. Unfortunately it means a single person can have multiples of a really powerful card. That I am totally against as it is cheating. __________________ The gospel accordong to Myamoto, Chatper three, verse six..."And it is written that the gaming of man will die, and rest silent for two years. But on the eighty-fifth year of the twentieth century, it shall rise again. And its triumphant return shall be heralded by two great plumbers and thou will know gaming has been born again."

26th Oct 2007, 15:07	#9
Salazaar Minimodder Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 43	So Sony's latest attempt to steal everyone's cash has totally backfired (i.e. the Pokemon ploy) because they forgot to do their homework and expected everyone to just believe them when they said these cards can't be copied. Well now the game's pretty much ruined, all anyone who want to win online has to do is to download whatever cards they need off whichever torrent site that inevitably hosts them and print them off. The only way to prevent using illegal cards is for both players to be there in person... pretty much negating the purpose of the whole kit and caboodle. D'oh! Actually I think it's a bit of a shame, I thought it was quite a nice idea (despite the money grubbing aspect of it) which is now rendered pointless. Still, I wasn't planning on buying a PS3 so I'll just sit here and laugh at Sony.

26th Oct 2007, 18:12	#10
Tulatin The Froggy Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,941	Oh, don't we all just love TCGs... I suppose Sony never learns their lesson with assuming, but WOTC? ****, i don't blame them. MTG is/was huge, Pokemon was a subsequent wallet raper (and now, source of cheap card)... __________________ Desky E8400 @ 4.0 1.42v; P5K-E WiFi; 4x1 Kingmax Mars 1066 @ 1129 CAS 5; 2x [TOO CHEAP TO SPONSOR] 4850 @ 675/1050; Enermax Liberty; WCing in a CM690

28th Oct 2007, 08:47	#11
rhuitron Bump? What Bump? Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northern California, Usa Posts: 122	Sony's News Flash! The person at Sony that first saw the hack Went, "DOH!" It makes me Happy. __________________ You use an Apple?? Go play in traffic.

28th Oct 2007, 20:25	#12
Dev25 Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 116	At first i was like wtf is this game about it looks interesting (Well the concept). But after seeing this der probaly like oh f*ck. 1 more problem to the ps3

29th Oct 2007, 11:44	#13
pozo What's a Dremel? Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4	I think TCG are ripoffs anyhow, so I'm happy this happened :-) The only thing is the possibility of cheating with rare cards, however this could be patched out of the game via a 'maximal deck power' system or something like that. I don't know the game's rules, but you could perhaps require that 'attack points + defence points < 100 per deck'.

2nd Nov 2007, 01:29	#14
Seeknay25 What's a Dremel? Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1	Yah, some sites even have all 110 cards uploaded. http://www.nextgenboards.com/vb/eye-...ent-cards.html That site you just have to quickly register and you can see all the cards, its simple, easy, did it and it worked.