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Tim S · 29th Oct 2007, 05:15

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200...treme_qx9650/1

Intel's first 45nm desktop CPU from the Penryn family launches in the middle of next month. Today, we have a look at the new Core 2 Extreme QX9650 with side-by-side performance comparisons against a range of dual and quad-core CPUs in an x86-64 environment.

one down, one to go...

leexgx · 29th Oct 2007, 06:03

not that much more speed then the 6850 then (ant this an Tock chip (tick tock))

Q6600 @ 3.2-3.4Ghz match it (for most tests) as well saveing you £500 for it as well (the extra cache has to help some how)

Woodstock · 29th Oct 2007, 06:25

bah bring on the cheaper units, dammit

RotoSequence · 29th Oct 2007, 06:35

Is it just me, or is there a terrific amount of unused die-space around the ends of the L2 cache?

Mankz · 29th Oct 2007, 07:21

Not as amazing as I thought it'd be, but still pretty damn good.

Neogumbercules · 29th Oct 2007, 07:36

I'll take three.

CardJoe · 29th Oct 2007, 07:43

Hm, the thing I love most is that ten months or so ago this would never have interested me and I never would have understood it. Now, it interests me enough to read it before going to work and I can understand some of it. Nice one Tim!

Jamie · 29th Oct 2007, 07:45

I'm impressed by those power consumption figures. It's about time AMD caught up.

naokaji · 29th Oct 2007, 09:12

sadly the prices for the intel xtreme editions are also extreme...

well, i'll just wait for the cheaper 45nm quads to come along.

samkiller42 · 29th Oct 2007, 09:52

woo, looks pretty, i want i want i want.

Sam

Seraphim Works · 29th Oct 2007, 09:55

Considering conroe hasn't actually been around that long, it's quite impressive that Intel have migrated to 45nm quite successfully. The power figures are always good news, 45nm notebook processors should be quite frugal.

As for the overclocking, it'll be interesting to see how the lower clocked mainstream parts do at the beginning of next year. Especially as new steppings will be introduced (e.g G0 for the Q6600) which should make power requirements even lower!

All in all I'm quite happy, I've got a p35 board ready for 45nm quad sometime next year. Should be quite a nice jump in performance for little cost.

lamboman · 29th Oct 2007, 11:01

I thought that Hard OCP had done well, then I come to BT, and see a rather not so amazing cooler getting this beast to 4.35 ghz. Water at Hard as well. Let me see how many friends I can sell...

3dHeli · 29th Oct 2007, 11:26

Interesting that March 2008, seems to be date for wider availability of the new 45nm desktop CPU from Intel (Penryn).

A tiny little bit dissapointed (but not altogether surprised) that it's not the dramatic performance boost that dual core originally was . . . . so feel a decision to get the Q6600 today is still a valid one. Although I have yet to see the most relevent tests for me of Photoshop and sony vegas video editing. For my photoshop work I think memory and hard disc speed are more bottle necks than cpu.

Was surprised by the reduced power consumption compared to the Q6600 . . . as other reports had stated the same TDP for both (or maybe even higher I think for the QX9650), which I'd previously thought was a usefull guide . . . I'm not so sure now.

Bindibadgi · 29th Oct 2007, 11:56

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Originally Posted by lamboman

I thought that Hard OCP had done well, then I come to BT, and see a rather not so amazing cooler getting this beast to 4.35 ghz. Water at Hard as well. Let me see how many friends I can sell...

Well overclocking is entirely CPU (and motherboard) dependent and these are ES chips remember, not retail. We may simply just be lucky (for a change).

Heli - we could spend all day/all year doing every different bit of software but we have covered video encoding with two different codecs and software, as well as image manipulation using Paint.NET

Roto - it's just representative mate, don't read into it too much. EDIT: Ahh crap!! I completely forgot I've got a ton of die pics on the camera so I'll whip them out and we can see what the actual dies look like.

Afaik Intel is supposed to release several 45nm processors in Jan, then later (as yields increase and depending on what the competition does) more speed versions. Where'd you read March?

Rocket733 · 29th Oct 2007, 12:27

Great article. Got a bit of a typo though "The difficulty in working with projected guidelines before a process is properly developed is fully evident with Tejas - the 90nm process was not was it cracked up to be" to "was not what it was cracked up to be"

Tim S · 29th Oct 2007, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket733

Great article. Got a bit of a typo though "The difficulty in working with projected guidelines before a process is properly developed is fully evident with Tejas - the 90nm process was not was it cracked up to be" to "was not what it was cracked up to be"

Thanks, I'll fix that - my eyes were getting dreary at 5am this morning (and I've not been to sleep yet!)

Krikkit · 29th Oct 2007, 13:28

I must say that you guys' hard work is really appreciated tbh, some awesome reviews, as usual.

kickarse · 29th Oct 2007, 13:30

I'm surprised that AMD is sitting idly at 90nm SOI. I really hope they pull a clincher SOON or else... else... I have nothing else to buy and Intel can sweep prices.

Mankz · 29th Oct 2007, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by kickarse

I'm surprised that AMD is sitting idly at 90nm SOI.

I'm pretty sure that they're using a 65Nm process..

Tim S · 29th Oct 2007, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mankz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kickarse

I'm surprised that AMD is sitting idly at 90nm SOI.

I'm pretty sure that they're using a 65Nm process..

Only X2 5000+ and below at the moment. Phenom is also 65nm

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3dHeli Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 245	Interesting that March 2008, seems to be date for wider availability of the new 45nm desktop CPU from Intel (Penryn). A tiny little bit dissapointed (but not altogether surprised) that it's not the dramatic performance boost that dual core originally was . . . . so feel a decision to get the Q6600 today is still a valid one. Although I have yet to see the most relevent tests for me of Photoshop and sony vegas video editing. For my photoshop work I think memory and hard disc speed are more bottle necks than cpu. Was surprised by the reduced power consumption compared to the Q6600 . . . as other reports had stated the same TDP for both (or maybe even higher I think for the QX9650), which I'd previously thought was a usefull guide . . . I'm not so sure now. Last edited by 3dHeli; 29th Oct 2007 at 11:41.

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