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Old 19th Aug 2014, 12:12   #1
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1000 car for short commute

Sorry - another car thread.

Just started a new job that is only 2 miles so no need to catch trains anymore!

While the weather is nice(ish) I don't mind walking/cycling/getting a bus partway but when the weather turns I'd like a motor just to get me there dry.

The possibilities on any budget are almost mind boggling but I set myself quite a low one because I'm saving my ass off and have other priorities. I am unashamedly a bit of a tart so would prefer something that looks nice.

MPG is not a major priority with such a short run, but large engine cars don't seem to hold any value (not that is a major issue on such a small budget). I'd like not to have to spend silly money should something breaks. Tax is expensive on all older cars and there doesn't seem to be much difference in insurance costs between cars now I'm in my thirties.

Options so far:

Alfa 147 (nice looking, bit of a wildcard)
Ford Puma (decent but starting to look dated)
Hyundai Coupe MK2 (can be had for cheap)

MGBGT (if I can get hold of one)
Triumph Spitfire (if I can get hold of one)

RX8 (Scared it will break)
Z3 (not as good as a MX5 and expensive to repair)

I do like MX-5s but they hold value well and I don't like the MK1 (sorry). I like classic cars and can tinker around with them (my father is decent under the bonnet and is close). Not going to buy for at least a month, just weighing the options.

There also is the lingering possibility that I will only own it 12 months or so and then perhaps trade up.

Opinions/experience welcomed please!

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Old 19th Aug 2014, 12:45   #2
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Bag of sand is close to shonkernomics territory.
Buy owt with 12 months tax and ticket, drive it, if it breaks throw it away.

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RX8 or Z3 for 1k sounds like a lot of trouble to me. I can't believe you can even find a RX8 for 1k, unless it's at a breakers yard.

Ford Puma, check for rot underneath the wheel arches, seems to be a favourite place for Fords to rust away.
Neighbours got a Mondeo ST200 that's arch lip is made of duct tape now, has been for a year. He can't bear to sell it as he got it cheap and it's so much car for not much cost.



Applying Top Gear logic (awaits flaming), an Alfa for 1k can't be that great either,
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Why pay the cost of tax, insurance and fuel for a 2 mile journey though? Walk or cycle, save the money and stay in shape!

If you are insistent, I agree with mrlongbeard, for such a small journey, get a small petrol engine that you like the look of and just make sure you look after it.

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RX8 or Z3 for 1k sounds like a lot of trouble to me. I can't believe you can even find a RX8 for 1k, unless it's at a breakers yard.
1k RX8s do exist, just don't expect them to be able to start when hot. The one in the second link says its ok at the mo but it will become an issue at a later date.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-MAZDA...item1e8f27ab26

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Bag of sand is close to shonkernomics territory.
Buy owt with 12 months tax and ticket, drive it, if it breaks throw it away.

Or just buy a brolly
I Googled 'shonkernomics' incase it was some kind of variant of bangernomics I was unaware of and the only other place it appeared on the internet had quite a familiar username.

Meh, the difference in what you can buy for around a grand is astonishing. I may seem to be being unreasonable but I don't feel it's impossible. Nice older car > mild work >job done.

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RX8 or Z3 for 1k sounds like a lot of trouble to me. I can't believe you can even find a RX8 for 1k, unless it's at a breakers yard.
RX8s are worth peanuts now - no one appears to want to touch them. Seen a few Z3s in not bad looking condition, just old.


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Applying Top Gear logic (awaits flaming), an Alfa for 1k can't be that great either,
Alfa 147s seem to be the bargain area of the market for a while. I'd only touch one if it had decent history and all the major servicing bits done (although this applys with any car).
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1k RX8s do exist, just don't expect them to be able to start when hot. The one in the second link says its ok at the mo but it will become an issue at a later date.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-MAZDA...item1e8f27ab26

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-MAZDA...item339409bdea

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-MAZDA...item4d22b2b812
Indeed. Almost seems worth while getting the best I can for as cheap as possible, hoping it holds out for a year and then sell for scrap.
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Well it's Summer now *looks out of window* and is pissing it down. I'm not really a fan of sitting round in a wet suit all day.
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I Googled 'shonkernomics' incase it was some kind of variant of bangernomics I was unaware of and the only other place it appeared on the internet had quite a familiar username.
Yup, my pet name for bangernomics.

If you read the thread it kind of hints at the problems you'll face, buy a cheap car and you'll need to set a point at which you stop spending money on it as it become no longer financially viable.
Problem is the more you spend the less there is to go wrong (theoretically) and you get trapped spending more and more and more

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Meh, the difference in what you can buy for around a grand is astonishing. I may seem to be being unreasonable but I don't feel it's impossible. Nice older car > mild work >job done.
Oh, I know, I normally buy @ 2k, but then I'm doing 25k miles a year and I drive my cars into the ground
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I usually by a decent but low powered BMW for 1k or less and run them into the ground. Only use BMW as I am allergic to FWD cars and need 4 doors. Never had a crap one yet. Dickheads dont want the low pwered ones to belt around in and they are decent engines.
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What about a little ford Ka? I bet they are dirt cheap to run and insure?
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What about a little ford Ka? I bet they are dirt cheap to run and insure?
Sitting around all day in a sopping wet suit seems more appealing.
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Sitting around all day in a sopping wet suit seems more appealing.
Second Class ride is better than a first class walk Besides with the low miles you will be doing you won't lose much in value. And it's a lot easier to sell on a Ka than a sporty car.
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Or hows about something silly

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-CAV...item2593bc2b92

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That did make me laugh.

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That's exactly what I was thinking for a few miles to cruise work and around town doing bits. I've seen a number of Z3s for under a grand.

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How come the RX8's are so cheap?
The market as a whole favours economical cars, an RX8 is not economical at all. Throw in the fact that a new engine or rebuild isn't cheap and will more than likely be on the cards (I'm no expert, don't really know much about them) and they suddenly aren't appealing. It's a shame - would be nice to just stick a VAG engine in it for a cheap, economical nice looking car but I can't imagine it would be easy.
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Hell no!

I had looked at MR2s while my budget was all over the place (I'd ideally want a MK3 MX5) but I'm not sure. Gen 7 Celicas must be creeping down to almost that price range too.
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A search for coupes shows a lot of Hyundais and (surprisingly) RX-8s for the money. Also....

Megane Coupe - 2002 - 78k
Peugeot 406 V6 Coupe - 1999 - 81k

I really like the look of that shape Peugeot and would be happy with an unmolested V6.
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