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Unfortunately he is right though. Every single Mac-user I know is a douche, at least when talking about their apple gadgets. Even when we both are using the same software and they are using some C2D Macbook that is crippled by silly 2GB of RAM they are convinced their machine will get the job done faster due to "bett optimized drivers and no blue screens".

I don't hate the machines as they're top quality, I even keep recommending them from time to time, but some users. If you happen to own a Mac and are no Mac evangelist all the better.
That doesn't mean they are douche bags because they're Mac users, they're douche bags because they have't got the first clue about computers and try to talk like they do. Anyone who thinks their Apple computer is better than a PC which is faster because it's a Mac doesn't know jack **** about it and should keep their mouth shut. For the record, I know PC users who think that way too, and they are equally as clueless.

Anyway, in another few months I'm going to be a Mac user as well, so I just don't want to be labelled when I'm out in public using it. I may even get a sticker made for the lid of it: "This machine is a Mac, but I build epic PCs for a living"
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I think you'll find that the same proportion of pc/mac users are douche bags. I've met plenty of both sides. Unfortunately most of them tend to be the "quite vocal" camp. So you hear them more.

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Sigh. That's about as immature as car drivers calling "most but not all" van drivers douche bags.

Agreed. Though there is something about not being able to see a great deal in a large vehicle that probably doesn't help

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Unfortunately he is right though. Every single Mac-user I know is a douche, at least when talking about their apple gadgets. Even when we both are using the same software and they are using some C2D Macbook that is crippled by silly 2GB of RAM they are convinced their machine will get the job done faster due to "bett optimized drivers and no blue screens".

I don't hate the machines as they're top quality, I even keep recommending them from time to time, but some users. If you happen to own a Mac and are no Mac evangelist all the better.
I would say the equivalent mac/pc are very hard to compare. I know that if I ran my business just supporting mac people I would a truck load more clients. I've helped lots of people switch to macs and without a shadow of a doubt not a single one has regretted it.

If someone judges someone on the type of computer they own. I'd dare to suggest it says more about that person than the computer owner. Most people tend to forget the 99.9% of computer owners are the normal public not techie's/geeks. They don't generally care what it is/does as long as it's easy for them to do what they want on it.
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Old 14th Aug 2011, 16:41   #15785
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If someone judges someone on the type of computer they own. I'd dare to suggest it says more about that person than the computer owner. Most people tend to forget the 99.9% of computer owners are the normal public not techie's/geeks. They don't generally care what it is/does as long as it's easy for them to do what they want on it.
Not this again. I do NOT hate Macs. Why would I - the built quality is just fantastic. In fact I'd love to have a Macbook running Win7. I do hate Mac owners who have no clue about anything tech related but think their machine is automatically better suited for the job than a PC because it's a Mac and it's twice as expensive. Which frankly is BS.

It took me quite a few years to convince my mom to buy a macbook, she really couldn't be happier with the machine. However she too is going on and on now about how much better Macs are without even trying to comprehend why I won't buy one. This attitude drives me nuts. I don't judge the people by their machines, but their attitude. Again - I've yet to meet a Mac user that can accept that their machine is not the Holy Grail of Computing because it was more expensive.
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Again - I've yet to meet a Mac user that can accept that their machine is not the Holy Grail of Computing because it was more expensive.
Dunno about IRL but almost every Mac user on this forum can call a spade a spade.
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I live with three of them, who aren't on these forums. Their ignorance and general blind faith in Apple is sickening.
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Maybe people say that macs are better than anything because they indeed are?

It is just a question of which criteria you choose to deem something "better". I bet macs are better than the rest in something... Like interface and build quality. Perhaps such things are more important to average users than 'speedz and overclockz'
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When you consider that any similar laptops from the likes of Acer cannot beat apple's price I'd say it's a bargain

Intel have announced a fund to try to help them bring the costs down too: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=214608



You know that mac owners are just normal people yeah I used to only have pc's and now I only have mac's. Well apart from an htpc in the lounge.
This is a PC;


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Sigh. That's about as immature as car drivers calling "most but not all" van drivers douche bags.

Not really, he's just stating a fact.


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I live with three of them, who aren't on these forums. Their ignorance and general blind faith in Apple is sickening.
I feel for you man, although I only have to put up with one. Got me a Samsung Galaxy S II phone which massively overpowers the iphone and he still actually believes his phone is better in every way. Hopeless.
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This is not a hard concept.
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Not this again. I do NOT hate Macs. Why would I - the built quality is just fantastic. In fact I'd love to have a Macbook running Win7. I do hate Mac owners who have no clue about anything tech related but think their machine is automatically better suited for the job than a PC because it's a Mac and it's twice as expensive. Which frankly is BS.

It took me quite a few years to convince my mom to buy a macbook, she really couldn't be happier with the machine. However she too is going on and on now about how much better Macs are without even trying to comprehend why I won't buy one. This attitude drives me nuts. I don't judge the people by their machines, but their attitude. Again - I've yet to meet a Mac user that can accept that their machine is not the Holy Grail of Computing because it was more expensive.
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting that you did. I was talking more in general.

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It is just a question of which criteria you choose to deem something "better". I bet macs are better than the rest in something... Like interface and build quality. Perhaps such things are more important to average users than 'speedz and overclockz'
Yeah that's kind of my point. Geeks/Techies are generally looking at things very differently to normal users. They want something that is the following
1. Easy to use
2. Easy to buy/setup
3. Desirable (Looks/Brand)

Most people use a computer for basic things. Those that do serious gaming/photo editing/video editing and other taxing stuff are in the minority.

For a lot of them the tactile things are important far more than specs. It's why I think that tablet makers simply don't get it. They are trying to compete on a spec sheet. Most people don't care or haven't a clue what it means. Most are totally confused when you try to explain specs to them.

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Apple makes a good product, no one can refute that, but people tend to follow Apple and all their products with blind faith. They are misinformed and outspoken on the subject


Like I said, most but not all are like that
When people buy a product from a certain brand and it works really well for them, they are going to trust that brand. It's not blind faith, but based on actual experience with the brand. You can be damn sure that if apple started building rubbish products people would fall out of love with them. People don't spend money on brands that let them down all the time. Its the same reason people buy a series of BMW's/Mercs.
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