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CardJoe · 30th Oct 2007, 12:42

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/10...shes_systems/1

Everything isn’t so shiny as Apple’s newly released OS X upgrade, Leopard, causes some computers to crash upon install andApple are clueless about how to solve it.

Mankz · 30th Oct 2007, 12:47

Oh Dear... New OS's have problems allready!

Also you need a space between 'and' + 'Apple' as it says andApple at the mo...

Da Dego · 30th Oct 2007, 12:49

Wow. I had no problems, and to my knowledge neither did Jamie or RTT. Then again, I took the RTT approach - I keep my stuff organized in one directory, so I offloaded it onto my 2.5" USB HDD and happily did the total format.

But anyone who doesn't back up data before installing a whole new OS is kind of asking for it, as much as I realize that macs are supposed to appeal to a lower common denominator and all. Hell, there's a brain-dead easy backup function built right into Tiger...

Cobalt · 30th Oct 2007, 13:07

I have nearly 300GB of files on my computer (not counting games and apps) so backing up is prohibitively expensive for me.

Firehed · 30th Oct 2007, 13:08

Hm, it went fine for me. I just popped the disc in, rebooted, selected English, and waited while it did its thing. Sucks that it's happening to a few people, but you have to expect some people to have problems - it's being reported that over two million people bought it over the weekend, and you can expect at least twice that number for installs between disc sharing, family packs, and piracy.

DarkLord7854 · 30th Oct 2007, 13:25

Lol.

Karma's a b*tch

iwog · 30th Oct 2007, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firehed

...it's being reported that over two million people bought it over the weekend, and you can expect at least twice that number for installs between disc sharing, family packs, and piracy.

Yeah i can really see the pirates contacting apple for help.

"Apple please help i stole you software and now it doesn't work."

Oh well, now no OS is "perfect" and everybody knows it.

UncertainGod · 30th Oct 2007, 13:31

The problem isn't just caused by that enhancement software, it's also been reported by people who had external drives plugged in during install.

mclean007 · 30th Oct 2007, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt

I have nearly 300GB of files on my computer (not counting games and apps) so backing up is prohibitively expensive for me.

Those files can't be that important to you if you can't justify dropping Â£50 on a 400GB external HDD.

fev · 30th Oct 2007, 13:43

haven't had a single crash since going to vista, that's not ONE single crash, hick up... explorer restart.
The only thing to hickup was iTunes after updating itself, so that got killed pretty quickly

proxess · 30th Oct 2007, 13:52

Crash? Whats that? Isn't that the Bandicoot character?

DriftCarl · 30th Oct 2007, 13:52

taking a page from the mac fanbois book when vista was released and they all said they will stick to OSX.

Well I think I will stick to my perfectly installed and running vista ultimate system thanks. No Blue(textless) screens of death for me since my vista install.

xrob · 30th Oct 2007, 14:13

hahah

cjmUK · 30th Oct 2007, 14:21

Karma indeed.

What goes around, comes around.

Aterius Gmork · 30th Oct 2007, 14:33

I just remember what a good friend and apple fanboy said to me: "Virus Inside Switch To Apple."

Now who's System is running smoothly, and who's isn't? xD

cjmUK · 30th Oct 2007, 15:42

Clearly the tables haven't been completely turned; Microsoft and their OS's still need to improve in some areas.

But it shows that situation is less than black and white. Nobody is perfect.

-EVRE- · 30th Oct 2007, 16:31

mac: Hello, I'm mac, and this is PC.

Hey PC, great news! I get an OS upgrade today.. you know one of those things that makes us better, more features and more secure.. you know.. all the things you have alot of trouble with.

Well her it goes, see you on the other side, but better!

*After a few seconds, mac goes into a blank stare, falling onto its back*

PC: MEDIC!

----------------

Hehe... silly mac users!

OleJ · 30th Oct 2007, 17:22

LOL

ChiperSoft · 30th Oct 2007, 20:06

The BSOD only happens to people who had installed APE on their Tiger systems. APE is a GUI expansion library for altering the way things in the OS behave, of course it's going to **** up the install, and of course Apple isn't going to know how to fix it, it's not their bug. That's like blaming Microsoft because Norton Anti-Virus screws up your system.

It should be noted that all the crashes have been for people who do upgrades instead of fresh installs. Moral of the story: NEVER USE AN OS UPGRADE!

cjmUK · 30th Oct 2007, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiperSoft

That's like blaming Microsoft because Norton Anti-Virus screws up your system.

It's like blaming Vista because Creative, Nvidia et al were too slow off the mark.

30th Oct 2007, 12:42	#1
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Da Dego Brett Thomas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Cleveland, OH USA Posts: 3,906	Wow. I had no problems, and to my knowledge neither did Jamie or RTT. Then again, I took the RTT approach - I keep my stuff organized in one directory, so I offloaded it onto my 2.5" USB HDD and happily did the total format. But anyone who doesn't back up data before installing a whole new OS is kind of asking for it, as much as I realize that macs are supposed to appeal to a lower common denominator and all. Hell, there's a brain-dead easy backup function built right into Tiger... __________________ "Frankly that seems overkill. iluvtrees2 arguing with spec is the intellectual equivalent of a bunny rabbit taking on a pissed-off lion." - Nexxo

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Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	Hm, it went fine for me. I just popped the disc in, rebooted, selected English, and waited while it did its thing. Sucks that it's happening to a few people, but you have to expect some people to have problems - it's being reported that over two million people bought it over the weekend, and you can expect at least twice that number for installs between disc sharing, family packs, and piracy. __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

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DriftCarl Multimodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 199	taking a page from the mac fanbois book when vista was released and they all said they will stick to OSX. Well I think I will stick to my perfectly installed and running vista ultimate system thanks. No Blue(textless) screens of death for me since my vista install.

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Aterius Gmork Look Mr. Bubbles, it's an angel! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 698	I just remember what a good friend and apple fanboy said to me: "Virus Inside Switch To Apple." Now who's System is running smoothly, and who's isn't? xD

30th Oct 2007, 15:42	#16
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30th Oct 2007, 20:06	#19
ChiperSoft Minimodder Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 46	The BSOD only happens to people who had installed APE on their Tiger systems. APE is a GUI expansion library for altering the way things in the OS behave, of course it's going to **** up the install, and of course Apple isn't going to know how to fix it, it's not their bug. That's like blaming Microsoft because Norton Anti-Virus screws up your system. It should be noted that all the crashes have been for people who do upgrades instead of fresh installs. Moral of the story: NEVER USE AN OS UPGRADE!