After an 8800 GT? You Might Just Want to Wait a Little... - bit-tech.net Forums

Mankz · 12th Nov 2007, 20:20

AMD's new offering of mid-range cards are here, and they look damn good for the price...

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Amon · 12th Nov 2007, 20:35

I'd tap that.

Pie_uk · 12th Nov 2007, 20:50

wow. i hope these are winners

KMS-oul · 13th Nov 2007, 04:18

Nice find there. Hmm this, or a 8800 gt (when they get in stock) or wait and see if the rumoured super 8800 gt shows up....decisions decisions and so near chrimbo.

oasked · 13th Nov 2007, 08:21

Performance seems to be very similar between the HD3870 and the 8800GT, and these cards run very cool ~40° compared to the 80 or so on the 8800GT. I think we have a winner!

(Especially as there's no stock anywhere for the 8800GT).

Mankz · 13th Nov 2007, 09:34

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Edit: Why can't I find these on OcUK?

They only had them up for a few minutes, probs to tell if the links worked, and someone screenied them, and I quoted them...

TheVoice · 13th Nov 2007, 09:38

Oooh, interesting. I'm on an ATi at the moment (1900XT), it does surprisingly well at 1680x1050, but I can see it's starting to struggle just a bit with more recent games.

Not sure I should be spending money on gaming stuff when I have my dissertation to write this year though!

wuyanxu · 13th Nov 2007, 21:06

but they are still slower than a 8800GTX right?

oasked · 13th Nov 2007, 21:17

^ Yes, but they're about half the price.

notatoad · 13th Nov 2007, 23:47

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STAFF FIGHT!! lol

are there any reviews/benchmarks out yet for these cards?

Rocket733 · 14th Nov 2007, 00:19

LOL bindi must have forgotten about that NDA he signed

Amon · 14th Nov 2007, 08:31

Awesome TBAMHz core and memory speeds!

Bindibadgi · 14th Nov 2007, 08:41

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Originally Posted by supertoad

STAFF FIGHT!! lol

are there any reviews/benchmarks out yet for these cards?

I swore unnecessarily.

Shielder · 14th Nov 2007, 09:15

Ooo, naughty Bindi! I hope the swear box has been used (or maybe the cluebat

)

What I want to know, is whether the Linux drivers are any good. Monitoring Phoronix to see what they think.

Roll on February... (my new build project will have finished by then

)

Andy

oasked · 14th Nov 2007, 17:06

Oh bugger.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=703

I've just ordered a BFG OC 8800GT off Amazon. Yes, its a pre-order, but its not price - gouged like everywhere else. £20 cheaper than OCUK.

Krikkit · 14th Nov 2007, 17:41

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Originally Posted by oasked

Oh bugger.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=703

I've just ordered a BFG OC 8800GT off Amazon. Yes, its a pre-order, but its not price - gouged like everywhere else. £20 cheaper than OCUK.

Why is that review a bad thing? It's not conclusive proof, but it's pretty unsurprising that it's not quite as fast as the GT (according to them).

I love that graphic on the conclusions page though - that's some great stats manipulation to show an impressive gulf between the two.

oasked · 14th Nov 2007, 17:45

Because I was under the impression that it was only slightly slower than the 8800GT (rather than 30% slower in a lot of applications).

Well, there might be hope yet - apparently they're using 7.10 rather than 7.11 for the drivers. I won't have to pay for the 8800GT I ordered until it dispatches in a week or two's time, so I have plenty of time to investigate HD3870 reviews.

Krikkit · 14th Nov 2007, 18:50

Even so, why is it a bad thing you pre-ordered the faster card?

Gravemind123 · 14th Nov 2007, 21:59

The only review I saw about the card was disappointing to say the least. The only advantage it had was less power usage. It was behind 7%-49% in games depending on the games. I hope they were using old drivers or something, because I thought there would finally be some competition to nVidia.

Amon · 14th Nov 2007, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Gravemind123

The only review I saw about the card was disappointing to say the least. The only advantage it had was less power usage. It was behind 7%-49% in games depending on the games. I hope they were using old drivers or something, because I thought there would finally be some competition to nVidia.

The very highest end of the graphics market doesn't signify anything. You may have missed the purpose and target consumers of these cards. Hint: look at the price and then deduce.

12th Nov 2007, 20:35	#2
Amon inch-perfect Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: cannoning into the reds, Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,456	I'd tap that. __________________ Defunct Socket 939 San Diego 4000+::2GB PC3200::Radeon 9600 SE 128MB::200GB HDD::24" Dell 2407WFP-HC::WinXP x64/x86 dual boot Dell Vostro 1500 laptop::Socket P Merom T7100::2GB PC5400::Go 8600m GT 256MB::660GB HDD::15.4" WXGA+, 24" Dell 2407WFP-HC::WinXP::Fanatec 911 Wheel+Pedals

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13th Nov 2007, 04:18	#4
KMS-oul You think you know me. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edinburgh UK Posts: 1,312	Nice find there. Hmm this, or a 8800 gt (when they get in stock) or wait and see if the rumoured super 8800 gt shows up....decisions decisions and so near chrimbo. __________________ Gaming Rig: Q6600 G0 @ 3.3Ghz Water-Cooled 4 X Prime95 Stable, MSI P35 Platinum, 2gig OCZ RAM, Seagate HD 250gig, OCZ StealthXstream 600W, ATI X600 Soon to be 8800 gt, 21" SM 215TW MacBook: C2D 1.8Ghz, 1256 MB RAM, 40gig HD OSX 86 Acer Laptop: Celeron M 420 1.6Ghz, 256MB ram, 60gig HD

13th Nov 2007, 08:21	#5
oasked Stuck in the Mud Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bromley, Kent Posts: 2,551	Performance seems to be very similar between the HD3870 and the 8800GT, and these cards run very cool ~40° compared to the 80 or so on the 8800GT. I think we have a winner! (Especially as there's no stock anywhere for the 8800GT). __________________ Intel i7 920 @ Stock \| 6GB Corsair DDR3\| Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 WD640 AALS \| POV 8800GT \| Lian-Li PC65 \| Enermax 600W SLI \| Dell 2408WFP

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13th Nov 2007, 09:38	#7
TheVoice Multimodder Join Date: May 2007 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 101	Oooh, interesting. I'm on an ATi at the moment (1900XT), it does surprisingly well at 1680x1050, but I can see it's starting to struggle just a bit with more recent games. Not sure I should be spending money on gaming stuff when I have my dissertation to write this year though!

13th Nov 2007, 21:17	#9
oasked Stuck in the Mud Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bromley, Kent Posts: 2,551	^ Yes, but they're about half the price. __________________ Intel i7 920 @ Stock \| 6GB Corsair DDR3\| Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 WD640 AALS \| POV 8800GT \| Lian-Li PC65 \| Enermax 600W SLI \| Dell 2408WFP

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Rocket733 Austerity - It's the only way Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,165	LOL bindi must have forgotten about that NDA he signed

14th Nov 2007, 08:31	#12
Amon inch-perfect Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: cannoning into the reds, Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,456	Awesome TBAMHz core and memory speeds! __________________ Defunct Socket 939 San Diego 4000+::2GB PC3200::Radeon 9600 SE 128MB::200GB HDD::24" Dell 2407WFP-HC::WinXP x64/x86 dual boot Dell Vostro 1500 laptop::Socket P Merom T7100::2GB PC5400::Go 8600m GT 256MB::660GB HDD::15.4" WXGA+, 24" Dell 2407WFP-HC::WinXP::Fanatec 911 Wheel+Pedals Last edited by Amon; 14th Nov 2007 at 08:39.

14th Nov 2007, 09:15	#14
Shielder Live long & prosper! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Northwich, UK Posts: 515	Ooo, naughty Bindi! I hope the swear box has been used (or maybe the cluebat) What I want to know, is whether the Linux drivers are any good. Monitoring Phoronix to see what they think. Roll on February... (my new build project will have finished by then ) Andy __________________ New Rig: GA-X38-DS5, Q6600 (running at stock until I get everything installed), 8GB OCZ RAM (not sure on timings), Inno3D 8800 GTS 512, Noctua NH-U12P heat sink, Hiper Type M 580, 4 HDDs, 2 opticals, Saitek Eclipse II keyboard, Sharkoon Rush gaming mouse, Samsung 2220WM monitor, running XP SP2 (32-bit), Vista HP (x64) and Fedora 9 Beta (x86-64).

14th Nov 2007, 17:06	#15
oasked Stuck in the Mud Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bromley, Kent Posts: 2,551	Oh bugger. http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=703 I've just ordered a BFG OC 8800GT off Amazon. Yes, its a pre-order, but its not price - gouged like everywhere else. £20 cheaper than OCUK. __________________ Intel i7 920 @ Stock \| 6GB Corsair DDR3\| Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 WD640 AALS \| POV 8800GT \| Lian-Li PC65 \| Enermax 600W SLI \| Dell 2408WFP

14th Nov 2007, 17:45	#17
oasked Stuck in the Mud Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bromley, Kent Posts: 2,551	Because I was under the impression that it was only slightly slower than the 8800GT (rather than 30% slower in a lot of applications). Well, there might be hope yet - apparently they're using 7.10 rather than 7.11 for the drivers. I won't have to pay for the 8800GT I ordered until it dispatches in a week or two's time, so I have plenty of time to investigate HD3870 reviews. __________________ Intel i7 920 @ Stock \| 6GB Corsair DDR3\| Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 WD640 AALS \| POV 8800GT \| Lian-Li PC65 \| Enermax 600W SLI \| Dell 2408WFP

14th Nov 2007, 18:50	#18
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