Nvidia 680i boards don't support Penryn? - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 28th Nov 2007, 18:47

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/11...pport_penryn/1

We've been digging for a little while now as rumours have been circling suggesting that existing Nvidia nForce 680i SLI boards likely won't support Intel's latest 45nm processors.

fathazza · 28th Nov 2007, 18:53

what about us cheapskates with 650i boards then?

Daza · 28th Nov 2007, 18:59

Its as simple as nvidia didn't give Intel the sli license or whatever you call it so Intel changed something on the yorkfield quad core so it wouldn't work, the ES of the yorkfield work fine with a beta bios for the 680i but the retail samples don't wonder why.

This has been documented over on the EVGA forums which are getting an ear full from customers as well.

samkiller42 · 28th Nov 2007, 19:55

Yet, my motherboad does, can take a picture to prove it.
And yes, it is 680i. Maybe the box isn't telling the truth

Sam

MathiasLM · 28th Nov 2007, 20:13

This is Bulls***!!!

I've had 3 NForce6 boards now, and it clearly said "45nm support" on the boxes.

Not to mention the article-image is an image of my current board :@

Zurechial · 28th Nov 2007, 20:29

It's been known for a while now on the EVGA forums.

Shame.

Just another reason to dislike the 680i, on top of all of the problems, failures and poorly-manufactured boards.

I'm currently waiting on my RMA with EVGA, after the board fried its own memory controller.

You might accept the odd catastrophic failure if I had been trying to break some world benchmarking record with it... but I had mine running at stock clocks and voltages.

What's worse is that this issue is far from rare ( Googled ) and tends to not show up until a few months into the board's lifetime, meaning it was never an issue for the countless reviewers who sang the 680i's praises when it was released.

EVGA appear to be handling matters well, but the whole situation leaves a bitter taste in one's mouth because of nVidia and Foxconn - I can't see myself buying another nForce board for a long time after this one.

Redbeaver · 28th Nov 2007, 20:40

so when is the next nforce board will be out? im curious to to see... ive read rumours on Nforce790i families...

DougEdey · 28th Nov 2007, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by samkiller42

Yet, my motherboad does, can take a picture to prove it.
And yes, it is 680i. Maybe the box isn't telling the truth

Sam

Pics

atanum141 · 28th Nov 2007, 21:14

Are the 45nm chips even out yet?

And Sam....pics please.

DarkLord7854 · 28th Nov 2007, 21:21

RMA time >.>

Angleus · 28th Nov 2007, 21:23

Thank god I decided not to buy the Striker extreme in the end then....is it me or does everything seem to have a shorter and shorter life span at the minute? (/over the last 2 years?)

chrisb2e9 · 28th Nov 2007, 21:40

Sounds like a good excuse to upgrade to me. except that i have a p35.

Nikumba · 28th Nov 2007, 22:31

Thats why I still prefer to buy a mobo with a chipset from the same company as the CPU

Kimbie

Daza · 28th Nov 2007, 22:51

The funny part is they state that 45nm cpus's work with the 680i when they should have said its the dual core series not the quads (yorkfield) which are already out and shipping and causing alot of headaches for retailers as the customers are coming back and saying the cpu doesn't work.

DXR_13KE · 29th Nov 2007, 00:29

Intel chipsets for me.... they just work.

salesman · 29th Nov 2007, 01:01

i just keep waiting for a reason to have a fast computer you know the gotta have fast computer but it never really comes around for me its kinda an inexpensive habit

Gunsmith · 29th Nov 2007, 05:54

AW NO NO NO NO NO! ive an evga 680i and i just bought a 9650 as well.

(evga can go **** themselves as the worst firm to get an RMA from)

-EVRE- · 29th Nov 2007, 05:58

Sounds like Intel withheld info from Nvidia to sell more of its own chipset.

Are chipset makers still having to reverse engineer their chipsets to work with intel processors?

whatever the reason.. it sure sounds like a good reason to continue to buy AMD.. even if they are a bit slower.

DarkLord7854 · 29th Nov 2007, 06:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunsmith

AW NO NO NO NO NO! ive an evga 680i and i just bought a 9650 as well.

(evga can go **** themselves as the worst firm to get an RMA from)

They are? I fried my motherboard 5 times within a year and got an RMA within days without hassle from them, overnight shipping too.

Gunsmith · 29th Nov 2007, 07:51

i still have the AR board, mailed them about replacing it when the ps2 keyboard problem cropped up. they acknowledged the problem and and they said to contact someone in germany as i live in the uk, i was told by the tech there to use a usb mouse instead. i mailed back evga us and got no response, emailed again and was told to call a number here in hte uk, got an answerphone, emailed them back and have never heard a word since. still to this day ive not heard anything and i've kinda given up. im calling ocuk in a bit to cancel my 9650

god i feel sick :/

28th Nov 2007, 18:47	#1
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28th Nov 2007, 20:29	#6
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28th Nov 2007, 18:59	#3
Daza Minimodder Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 48	Its as simple as nvidia didn't give Intel the sli license or whatever you call it so Intel changed something on the yorkfield quad core so it wouldn't work, the ES of the yorkfield work fine with a beta bios for the 680i but the retail samples don't wonder why. This has been documented over on the EVGA forums which are getting an ear full from customers as well.

28th Nov 2007, 20:13	#5
MathiasLM What's a Dremel? Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3	This is Bulls***!!! I've had 3 NForce6 boards now, and it clearly said "45nm support" on the boxes. Not to mention the article-image is an image of my current board :@

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28th Nov 2007, 21:23	#11
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28th Nov 2007, 22:31	#13
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28th Nov 2007, 22:51	#14
Daza Minimodder Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 48	The funny part is they state that 45nm cpus's work with the 680i when they should have said its the dual core series not the quads (yorkfield) which are already out and shipping and causing alot of headaches for retailers as the customers are coming back and saying the cpu doesn't work.

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29th Nov 2007, 05:54	#17
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29th Nov 2007, 05:58	#18
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29th Nov 2007, 07:51	#20
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