Do parents have a say in the games children play? - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 4th Dec 2007, 10:38

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/12...hildren_play/1

Microsoft has released an 'independent' survey about parents' attitudes to their children playing video games.

Phil Rhodes · 4th Dec 2007, 10:54

If you ask parents what they think about computer games, they'll respond that they're concerned and worrisome. I suspect you might also be able to prove that they're concerned and worrisome about food additives, cellphone transmitters and man-made fibres in their little ones' bedtime clothes. It is the job of parents to worry and be concerned, and one they generally take to like fish to water, especially if you ask them questions like "you're worried your children being turned into mass murderers by explicit violence in computer games, aren't you?"

At the end of the day some of them are also concerned and worried that they might have to live out a post-mortem eternity of fiery punishment if their invisible, imaginary friend from the big place in the sky doesn't get enough kneeling and praying out of them. Some of them are also bringing their children up to live in fear and trepidation of this sword-and-sorcery pyromaniac.

And that makes me very, very concerned and worried.

Phil

DXR_13KE · 4th Dec 2007, 12:39

i agree with Phil Rhodes.

Amon · 4th Dec 2007, 12:42

Obviously they're not concerned enough about their children's well-being with their indifference to climate change and its future consequences.

Almightyrastus · 4th Dec 2007, 12:48

If they are that concerned and worried about the content of certain games then why are they buying them or even allowing them to be played by kids in the first place?

Blademrk · 4th Dec 2007, 13:02

That is the 6 million dollar question...

Fod · 4th Dec 2007, 13:37

here's a thought, parents.

instead of bitchign and moaning about how you have no idea what your kids are playing, how about this:
The next time little Johnny asks you for grand murder death kill simulator:sexy city hooker time VI, instead of, oh, y'know, doing what you normally do, try this: LOOK AT THE BLOODY BBFC CERTIFICATE ON THE FRONT.

it won't kill your kids to say no to them sometimes. my parents did it to me (gasp! i know! what a deprived child i must have been; didn't get everything i asked for!) and i turned out OK ( i think...)

Cupboard · 4th Dec 2007, 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fod

LOOK AT THE BLOODY BBFC CERTIFICATE ON THE FRONT.

I wish my parent would believe that, I struggled to get Call of Duty 2 even though I was paying and was over the age limit

oh well, I love them really :P

Cptn-Inafinus · 4th Dec 2007, 17:07

Quite frankly, parents should just ****ing grow up a little.

Sorry for the harsh words, but if your child is young enough, or has such A weak mind that he would be so badly influenced by A game to go out and kill someone, then he shouldnt be playing the game in the first place, let alone own the console...

Clocked · 4th Dec 2007, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cptn-Inafinus

Quite frankly, parents should just ****ing grow up a little.

Sorry for the harsh words, but if your child is young enough, or has such A weak mind that he would be so badly influenced by A game to go out and kill someone, then he shouldnt be playing the game in the first place, let alone own the console...

Ditto.

Icy EyeG · 4th Dec 2007, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fod

here's a thought, parents.

instead of bitchign and moaning about how you have no idea what your kids are playing, how about this:
The next time little Johnny asks you for grand murder death kill simulator:sexy city hooker time VI, instead of, oh, y'know, doing what you normally do, LOOK AT THE BLOODY BBFC CERTIFICATE ON THE FRONT.

it won't kill your kids to say no to them sometimes. my parents did it to me (gasp! i know! what a deprived child i must have been; didn't get everything i asked for!) and i turned out OK ( i think...)

QFT!!

Bluephoenix · 4th Dec 2007, 19:08

fod is correct, and this study is too small a sample size and too skewed to be of any statistical value.

when will people learn to grow the F*** up and when will parents in this day and age start doing their damn jobs

RinSewand · 4th Dec 2007, 19:43

I'd agree with Cptn-Inafinus, instead of being worried about it, why not put a bit more effort and bring your kids up so they won't be affected by games? Both I and my sister have been brought up sensibly enough so that we can treat games as exactly what they are; games!

RwD

walle · 4th Dec 2007, 20:02

People tend to refute any negative impacts violent video games might have on our youngsters, and most often they refute them out of reflex action.

Jazza · 4th Dec 2007, 20:16

how many times has manhunt 2 been rejected i mean come on games do not turn us into maniacs, i mean i for one and and nearly

all of you out there will not go on a violent rampage after playing a violent game. As or little kids parents shouldn't buy them games like manhunt or let them play them especially if they are under 10 as at that age they do not fully understand the aspect of a game and real life.

p.s when i watch bruce lee films i still feel like a pro kung fu fighter for a whiile after watching it and i'm 17! but that doesn't mean i find someone to fight lol

Nexxo · 4th Dec 2007, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes

If you ask parents what they think about computer games, they'll respond that they're concerned and worrisome. I suspect you might also be able to prove that they're concerned and worrisome about food additives, cellphone transmitters and man-made fibres in their little ones' bedtime clothes. It is the job of parents to worry and be concerned, and one they generally take to like fish to water, especially if you ask them questions like "you're worried your children being turned into mass murderers by explicit violence in computer games, aren't you?"

At the end of the day some of them are also concerned and worried that they might have to live out a post-mortem eternity of fiery punishment if their invisible, imaginary friend from the big place in the sky doesn't get enough kneeling and praying out of them. Some of them are also bringing their children up to live in fear and trepidation of this sword-and-sorcery pyromaniac.

QFT.

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Originally Posted by Amon

Obviously they're not concerned enough about their children's well-being with their indifference to climate change and its future consequences.

That threat is abstract and distant. Perceived danger is in part a function of immediacy and familiarity. More children die by drowning in the swimming pool in the back garden every year, than through artificial food ingredients, video games or even guns.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fod

here's a thought, parents.

instead of bitchign and moaning about how you have no idea what your kids are playing, how about this:
The next time little Johnny asks you for grand murder death kill simulator:sexy city hooker time VI, instead of, oh, y'know, doing what you normally do, try this: LOOK AT THE BLOODY BBFC CERTIFICATE ON THE FRONT.

it won't kill your kids to say no to them sometimes. my parents did it to me (gasp! i know! what a deprived child i must have been; didn't get everything i asked for!) and i turned out OK ( i think...)

Assume, like, responsibility?!? Are you insane?!?

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Originally Posted by walle

People tend to refute any negative impacts violent video games might have on our youngsters, and most often they refute them out of reflex action.

Psychological reactance, more like. Violent videogames do have an impact on childrens' behaviour in laboratory conditions, but it is not clear what that means for real life. Generally the effects observed are rather small and clinically insignificant.

Mentai · 5th Dec 2007, 00:45

I see no problems with fighting and shooting games, a lot of them are quite sporting. I do however have a problem with games like manhunt 2 and postal, where there's an emphasis on mutilating. I don't think I would ever my future child get one of those, but them playing an fps like UT3 when they're 10 doesn't concern me.

There are adults who buy into the video game violence destroys society thing way too much though. Last christmas my 5yo cousin was playing simpsons roadrage and drove through some people. It's a childrens game so this pushes the people over, no one dies. Despite this my uncle immediately says "Now he's going to think it's ok to run people over in real cars." It kinda hurts me that someone related to me could make such a blind retarded statement. I mean, even if it was true, in a decades time when my cousin can learn to drive, society will have taught him better. I feel so sorry for my uncles son, I'm pretty sure he will never be allowed the joy of video games, not even Nintendo D:

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4th Dec 2007, 13:37	#7
Fod what is the cheesecake? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London Posts: 4,902	here's a thought, parents. instead of bitchign and moaning about how you have no idea what your kids are playing, how about this: The next time little Johnny asks you for grand murder death kill simulator:sexy city hooker time VI, instead of, oh, y'know, doing what you normally do, try this: LOOK AT THE BLOODY BBFC CERTIFICATE ON THE FRONT. it won't kill your kids to say no to them sometimes. my parents did it to me (gasp! i know! what a deprived child i must have been; didn't get everything i asked for!) and i turned out OK ( i think...) __________________ "Sesame Street is brought to you by the letters P, W, N, the number 3, and the letter D." I'm a pretentious git with a camera. ISPs want to spy on you. Join the fight against phorm XBL/PSN/Steam ID: FodT Last edited by Fod; 4th Dec 2007 at 18:46.

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Bluephoenix Spoon? What spoon? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 936	fod is correct, and this study is too small a sample size and too skewed to be of any statistical value. when will people learn to grow the F*** up and when will parents in this day and age start doing their damn jobs

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Jazza Minimodder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 42	how many times has manhunt 2 been rejected i mean come on games do not turn us into maniacs, i mean i for one and and nearly all of you out there will not go on a violent rampage after playing a violent game. As or little kids parents shouldn't buy them games like manhunt or let them play them especially if they are under 10 as at that age they do not fully understand the aspect of a game and real life. p.s when i watch bruce lee films i still feel like a pro kung fu fighter for a whiile after watching it and i'm 17! but that doesn't mean i find someone to fight lol

5th Dec 2007, 00:45	#17
Mentai Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 492	I see no problems with fighting and shooting games, a lot of them are quite sporting. I do however have a problem with games like manhunt 2 and postal, where there's an emphasis on mutilating. I don't think I would ever my future child get one of those, but them playing an fps like UT3 when they're 10 doesn't concern me. There are adults who buy into the video game violence destroys society thing way too much though. Last christmas my 5yo cousin was playing simpsons roadrage and drove through some people. It's a childrens game so this pushes the people over, no one dies. Despite this my uncle immediately says "Now he's going to think it's ok to run people over in real cars." It kinda hurts me that someone related to me could make such a blind retarded statement. I mean, even if it was true, in a decades time when my cousin can learn to drive, society will have taught him better. I feel so sorry for my uncles son, I'm pretty sure he will never be allowed the joy of video games, not even Nintendo D: