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Tim S · 6th Dec 2007, 10:09

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/12...ams_hd_video/1

The latest update of Adobe's Flash player introduces H.264 1080p HD support but More importantly it also reduces CPU usage for all flash!

quack · 6th Dec 2007, 10:27

Just updated my player.

With Flash being used pretty much everywhere these days to easily distribute video, the new codecs are a fantastic addition. If only Apple could dump their terrible QuickTime format on their movie trailer site and just use this instead!

steveo_mcg · 6th Dec 2007, 10:33

Lower cpu use is a bonus, depending on how effective it is i might even remove flash blocker.

Bionic-Blob · 6th Dec 2007, 10:41

bah, include divx/xvid i say

[USRF]Obiwan · 6th Dec 2007, 12:07

Better "invent" a codec that can do HD with less bytes to stream aka Jan Sloot

And i never got the HD quicktime trailers running on all my machines. But then again, it could be that my 'quicktime alternative' is doing weird stuff with HD

will. · 6th Dec 2007, 12:16

Finally!

iwod · 6th Dec 2007, 12:31

@ Bionic

What?? You do know H.264 is like so much better then Xvid right?

TreeDude · 6th Dec 2007, 12:47

Sounds like a great update. My connection is only 1.5MB though. HD content would probably make it cry.

<A88> · 6th Dec 2007, 13:05

Nice addition, although I still think Silverlight is a superior option to Flash. It's just about making it catch on really.

<A88>

Bionic-Blob · 6th Dec 2007, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwod

@ Bionic

What?? You do know H.264 is like so much better then Xvid right?

so it is, i was confused due to quicktime never streaming fast enough for the video to play, whereas stage6 is perfect, even on the highest quality videos

Dev25 · 6th Dec 2007, 16:45

Nice addition to Flash Player

stephen2002 · 7th Dec 2007, 00:36

Even the 720p ones have some performance issues on my 2.8GHz P4. Oh well, MPEG2 1080i still plays just fine :-)

Aankhen · 9th Dec 2007, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by quack

With Flash being used pretty much everywhere these days to easily distribute video, the new codecs are a fantastic addition. If only Apple could dump their terrible QuickTime format on their movie trailer site and just use this instead!

Er, what format are you talking about? QuickTime is a container format, and AFAIK Apple uses H.264 inside the container for the HD trailers. Or did you mean they should use Flash to embed the movie rather than QuickTime? I'd agree with that for certain.

quack · 9th Dec 2007, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aankhen

Or did you mean they should use Flash to embed the movie rather than QuickTime? I'd agree with that for certain.

That is what I meant.

DougEdey · 9th Dec 2007, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by <A88>

Nice addition, although I still think Silverlight is a superior option to Flash. It's just about making it catch on really.

<A88>

Nowhere near superior. Flash is cross platform.

<A88> · 9th Dec 2007, 22:53

And the only missing OS for Silverlight is Linux, which is under development anyway. Agreed, it's still in infancy, but from what I've seen it's more capable and much nicer to code for.

<A88>

crazybob · 10th Dec 2007, 00:42

I have to admit, it's a nice feature. Bandwidth is nowhere near abundant enough for it to gain a lot of acceptance, though - I'd much rather download a file and watch it when it's done than have to pause the player and wait for it to finish loading.

Performance when playing HD trailers is about the same as playing same-resolution trailers from Apple Trailers in Media Player Classic, which is remarkable considering how difficult HD is. Using MPC, my system (2.2 GHz Sempron, 7600gs) can completely handle 720 and can almost handle 1080, but it spends a lot of time at 100% CPU and drops quite a few frames in fast-paced portions. On the Flash trailers, 720 runs about the same (~50% CPU). I haven't tried 1080 yet because my internet connection just isn't up to the task tonight.

EDIT: The proper full-screen function is very nice, but the scaling it uses is terrible. I mean, it's probably good for low CPU usage, but it really doesn't look good. And considering that my computer can almost handle the videos, and it's nigh impossible to buy a new computer which is slower than mine, it seems like they should have used a bit better scaling.

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iwod Minimodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 44	@ Bionic What?? You do know H.264 is like so much better then Xvid right?

6th Dec 2007, 12:47	#8
TreeDude Multimodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 238	Sounds like a great update. My connection is only 1.5MB though. HD content would probably make it cry.

6th Dec 2007, 13:05	#9
<A88> Trust the Computer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 4,797	Nice addition, although I still think Silverlight is a superior option to Flash. It's just about making it catch on really. <A88>

6th Dec 2007, 16:45	#11
Dev25 Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 116	Nice addition to Flash Player

7th Dec 2007, 00:36	#12
stephen2002 Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 182	Even the 720p ones have some performance issues on my 2.8GHz P4. Oh well, MPEG2 1080i still plays just fine :-)

9th Dec 2007, 22:53	#16
<A88> Trust the Computer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 4,797	And the only missing OS for Silverlight is Linux, which is under development anyway. Agreed, it's still in infancy, but from what I've seen it's more capable and much nicer to code for. <A88>

10th Dec 2007, 00:42	#17
crazybob Voice of Reason Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,120	I have to admit, it's a nice feature. Bandwidth is nowhere near abundant enough for it to gain a lot of acceptance, though - I'd much rather download a file and watch it when it's done than have to pause the player and wait for it to finish loading. Performance when playing HD trailers is about the same as playing same-resolution trailers from Apple Trailers in Media Player Classic, which is remarkable considering how difficult HD is. Using MPC, my system (2.2 GHz Sempron, 7600gs) can completely handle 720 and can almost handle 1080, but it spends a lot of time at 100% CPU and drops quite a few frames in fast-paced portions. On the Flash trailers, 720 runs about the same (~50% CPU). I haven't tried 1080 yet because my internet connection just isn't up to the task tonight. EDIT: The proper full-screen function is very nice, but the scaling it uses is terrible. I mean, it's probably good for low CPU usage, but it really doesn't look good. And considering that my computer can almost handle the videos, and it's nigh impossible to buy a new computer which is slower than mine, it seems like they should have used a bit better scaling. Last edited by crazybob; 10th Dec 2007 at 00:55.