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CardJoe · 6th Dec 2007, 11:28

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/12..._last_summer/1

Wireless key-logging could be one of the next big threats according to a new white-paper on how to intercept signals from wireless keyboards using 27Mhz frequencies.

Lowsidex2 · 6th Dec 2007, 11:42

OH NO! That's was my 9month pregnant nieghbor and her 4yr old son were doing with that directional atenna!

Can't say I'm to worried about this one living in a house but apartments and office buildings might be at risk. I had to key my Logitech keyboard and mouse to the receiver when I installed the software. Is that for a measure of encryption or just to limit interference?

Tim S · 6th Dec 2007, 11:46

heh... I guess that's one reason not to use a wireless keyboard. Battery life was always my major gripe though - there's nothing more annoying than the batteries running out on anything. I'd rather just have the keyboard connected via a wire, but I can understand the benefits of a wireless keyboard for something like a media centre - I wouldn't be typing anything that I'd say is 'secure' on that though.

steveo_mcg · 6th Dec 2007, 11:48

A company i worked at was so worried about industrial espionage they wouldn't use wireless any thing, they had a lead lined room for sensitive discussion and later moved floor so the board room wasn't in direct line of sight with the castle since that was the only building opposite.

[MadMan] · 6th Dec 2007, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Tim S

heh... I guess that's one reason not to use a wireless keyboard. Battery life was always my major gripe though - there's nothing more annoying than the batteries running out on anything. I'd rather just have the keyboard connected via a wire, but I can understand the benefits of a wireless keyboard for something like a media centre - I wouldn't be typing anything that I'd say is 'secure' on that though.

hmmm, i use some el cheapo wireless keyboard for almost 2 years now(with stock batteries), and never ever changed them... same goes for my g/f
and now, im tempted to buy a wireless kb for work as i;m annoyed of cables

[USRF]Obiwan · 6th Dec 2007, 12:18

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Originally Posted by [MadMan

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hmmm, i use some el cheapo wireless keyboard for almost 2 years now(with stock batteries), and never ever changed them... same goes for my g/f

and now, im tempted to buy a wireless kb for work as i;m annoyed of cables

And your g/f? do you buy a new one too

[MadMan] · 6th Dec 2007, 12:30

ROFL, you know it was meant another way

Drexial · 6th Dec 2007, 12:57

ok off topic, but that picture is old school. Ive had that face on my wall for like ten years. Cut it out of a magazine.

Blademrk · 6th Dec 2007, 13:18

System Shock for the cheesecake.

Would have thought it was common sense that a wireless keyboard transmission (RF or Bluetooth) would get hacked at some point.

DeXtmL · 6th Dec 2007, 13:36

A great more study merely concenter on the wired systems. As wireless systems are increasingly growing, more and more security holes are revealed.

Dev25 · 6th Dec 2007, 16:44

Good thing i do not a have a Wireless keyboard

HourBeforeDawn · 6th Dec 2007, 17:22

well Im glad my stuff is bluetooth now lol

pendragon · 6th Dec 2007, 18:24

ya know, I often wonder how likely some of these hacks would be if research companies didn't tell you exactly how to do it ahead of time... then again, if it really does prevent any hacks beforehand, then I guess it's doing its job [shrugs]

I stopped using a wireless keyboard myself, as the keyboard ended up breaking on me

DXR_13KE · 6th Dec 2007, 20:34

http://www.hackaday.com/2007/12/02/w...asily-cracked/

hack a day keeps the doctor away....

completemadness · 7th Dec 2007, 00:46

Don't wireless keyboards & mice come with warnings about this?
I know my wireless MS desktop thing did all those years ago ....

6th Dec 2007, 11:28	#1
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6th Dec 2007, 11:42	#2
Lowsidex2 Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Posts: 224	OH NO! That's was my 9month pregnant nieghbor and her 4yr old son were doing with that directional atenna! Can't say I'm to worried about this one living in a house but apartments and office buildings might be at risk. I had to key my Logitech keyboard and mouse to the receiver when I installed the software. Is that for a measure of encryption or just to limit interference?

6th Dec 2007, 12:57	#8
Drexial Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 297	ok off topic, but that picture is old school. Ive had that face on my wall for like ten years. Cut it out of a magazine.

6th Dec 2007, 13:36	#10
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6th Dec 2007, 16:44	#11
Dev25 Multimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 116	Good thing i do not a have a Wireless keyboard

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completemadness Hypermodder Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 887	Don't wireless keyboards & mice come with warnings about this? I know my wireless MS desktop thing did all those years ago ....