AMD’s Phenom TLB errata benchmarked - bit-tech.net Forums

Tim S · 7th Dec 2007, 08:51

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/12..._benchmarked/1

AMD's Phenom isn't getting much love at the moment and things have just got a bit worse because AMD's claimed 10 percent performance loss with the TLB fix was a low estimate...

cjoyce1980 · 7th Dec 2007, 09:08

I would love to see them on top again, i loved it when the K7 was king and my Barton 2500+ could operate at 3200+ without any temp increase.

AMD, please bring back the glory days.......

Arkanrais · 7th Dec 2007, 10:05

what exactly is the benefit of this L3 cache?

Bindibadgi · 7th Dec 2007, 10:06

A common area to throw common data between cores - it's far lower latency than main memory.

DrFreeze · 7th Dec 2007, 12:31

bah, thos performance drops look quite bad

and sorry, but saying that unless you want a cpu for its e-peen rating, this doesnt matter is just stupid. If i were to buy this cpu for some 3d rendering or content transcoding, all of a sudden my huge 3d render would take 11 hours instead of 10, lowering the value for money on the cpu. This doesnt just lower your bogomips rating, it can also cost you a good bit of productivity.

bah, i was a huge fan of AMD untill about a year ago, all this barcelona business has been a huge cock-up

HourBeforeDawn · 7th Dec 2007, 20:23

ehh Im building a Spider platform system but for cpu I will just use the 6000+ Black edition until some better quads come out and they work out some of the issues.

leexgx · 7th Dec 2007, 20:32

when doing tests/review can you find what programs/games will crash the pc with out the TLB errata fix (i asume you can turn it on and off via bios)

as far as i know is VMware does the crash

from the reviews that have been going around the Single threaded performace of an K8 chip is faster then an K10, so most of my games would take an performace hit (i have an 8800GTX so i am most CPU limited most of the time)

Jebus.exe · 11th Dec 2007, 07:35

give it a few months, the phenom will have all the kinks ironed-out, and there will be the re-release of the 9700 and some more higher end versions.

I'm also planning on biulding a spider, cause i can still see alot of potential in the new chip

7th Dec 2007, 08:51	#1
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7th Dec 2007, 20:23	#6
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7th Dec 2007, 20:32	#7
leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do ) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: uk Posts: 568	when doing tests/review can you find what programs/games will crash the pc with out the TLB errata fix (i asume you can turn it on and off via bios) as far as i know is VMware does the crash from the reviews that have been going around the Single threaded performace of an K8 chip is faster then an K10, so most of my games would take an performace hit (i have an 8800GTX so i am most CPU limited most of the time) __________________ Qx6850 (OC 3.3Ghz) <> 120 extreme<> rampage forumla <> 9800GX2 <> 8gb 4x2gb (2x gell / 2x adata)<> SSD powered Corsair S128 / WD Black 1TB <> Crative X-fi FalTy FPS <> TK 1000w Toughpower <win7 x64> Click me for folding stats greenfrog.biz / 35947

7th Dec 2007, 09:08	#2
cjoyce1980 Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 343	I would love to see them on top again, i loved it when the K7 was king and my Barton 2500+ could operate at 3200+ without any temp increase. AMD, please bring back the glory days.......

7th Dec 2007, 12:31	#5
DrFreeze Minimodder Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 41	bah, thos performance drops look quite bad and sorry, but saying that unless you want a cpu for its e-peen rating, this doesnt matter is just stupid. If i were to buy this cpu for some 3d rendering or content transcoding, all of a sudden my huge 3d render would take 11 hours instead of 10, lowering the value for money on the cpu. This doesnt just lower your bogomips rating, it can also cost you a good bit of productivity. bah, i was a huge fan of AMD untill about a year ago, all this barcelona business has been a huge cock-up

11th Dec 2007, 07:35	#8
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