Casual gamers don't care about bad reviews - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 7th Dec 2007, 12:50

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/12..._bad_reviews/1

Casual games may get bad reviews from the hardcore press, but that doesn't stop them selling! Apparently casual gamers just don't care.

Zurechial · 7th Dec 2007, 13:03

I wish all casual games were free, not because I want them (couldn't be bothered with most) but because it'd prevent these 'casual gamers' from influencing the direction and aims of the big companies with their consumer-money.

The market is already watered-down with enough half-arsed dross as it is, a shift in priorities will only make that worse and discourage publishers further still from funding innovative, intelligent hardcore-gaming experiences (like System Shock 2) for those of us who see gaming as a serious hobby and something with artistic merit.

(I swear I'll mention that game at least once in every rant about the state of the games market. )

CardJoe · 7th Dec 2007, 13:16

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Originally Posted by Zurechial

(I swear I'll mention that game at least once in every rant about the state of the games market. )

True, but thats why I love ye!

Angleus · 7th Dec 2007, 13:19

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Originally Posted by Zurechial

I wish all casual games were free, not because I want them (couldn't be bothered with most) but because it'd prevent these 'casual gamers' from influencing the direction and aims of the big companies with their consumer-money.

The market is already watered-down with enough half-arsed dross as it is, a shift in priorities will only make that worse and discourage publishers further still from funding innovative, intelligent hardcore-gaming experiences (like System Shock 2) for those of us who see gaming as a serious hobby and something with artistic merit.

(I swear I'll mention that game at least once in every rant about the state of the games market. )

This is truth.
I think we as PC gamers are going to end up relying on more and more indie developers to give us some sort of credible gaming experience, since the industry is getting more and more preoccupied with sales figures and 'target markets', as in ignore 'hardcore' gamers for 'casual' gamers buy games which are cheaper and easier to produce

cjoyce1980 · 7th Dec 2007, 13:35

I can't say that I'm a hardcore gamer, but I'm not casual either. I do enjoy reading reviews about games that I think I might enjoy playing, like bioshock, assassins creed, etc..... which are amazing games!

But when it come to my annual purchase of a football game, it's either FIFA or Pro Evo, that's never based on reviews I always try before I buy.

Reviews are more important to games that have not established themselves. Franchises are more of the same with extra bits added on, and so reviews are less important, it more about the costumers preference, if you use my FIFA and Pro Evo example.

Zurechial · 7th Dec 2007, 14:01

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Originally Posted by CardJoe

True, but thats why I love ye!

Aww shucks!

aggies11 · 7th Dec 2007, 17:01

Agree wholeheartedly.

If Peggle hadn't came out, Crysis would have been loads better!

...

Aggies

8igdave · 7th Dec 2007, 17:13

the link goes to a differnt story for me...

boiled_elephant · 7th Dec 2007, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Angleus

I think we as PC gamers are going to end up relying on more and more indie developers to give us some sort of credible gaming experience, since the industry is getting more and more preoccupied with sales figures and 'target markets'

QFT. Look at Darwinia for an example, and the history of Portal. And has anyone here played Platypus? That **** is fantastic. Beats F.E.A.R. for enjoyment value any day.

ssj12 · 7th Dec 2007, 17:41

maybe its because most casual gamers dont know what IGN or 1up is...

wolff000 · 7th Dec 2007, 20:29

I read reviews on sites i trust but that doesn't keep me from playing a game myself. People have different tastes and just because a reviewer I usually agree with doesn't like it doesn't automatically mean I won't like it. That's why I love renting games so I can at least try before I buy, for my console games anyway. I wish you could do that with pc games as well. I know it wouldn't work for pc games because of piracy but it would be nice.

salesman · 7th Dec 2007, 23:47

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Originally Posted by Angleus

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Originally Posted by Zurechial

I wish all casual games were free, not because I want them (couldn't be bothered with most) but because it'd prevent these 'casual gamers' from influencing the direction and aims of the big companies with their consumer-money.

The market is already watered-down with enough half-arsed dross as it is, a shift in priorities will only make that worse and discourage publishers further still from funding innovative, intelligent hardcore-gaming experiences (like System Shock 2) for those of us who see gaming as a serious hobby and something with artistic merit.

(I swear I'll mention that game at least once in every rant about the state of the games market. )

This is truth.
I think we as PC gamers are going to end up relying on more and more indie developers to give us some sort of credible gaming experience, since the industry is getting more and more preoccupied with sales figures and 'target markets', as in ignore 'hardcore' gamers for 'casual' gamers buy games which are cheaper and easier to produce

I agree completely. ive also found that pulling out old classics like morrowind (god that only came out less than a decade ago) and popping it in for a whirl quite satisfying, which sounds like an analogy to an audiophile talking about how much better vinyls are to cds. So i guess i could be that guy, if i don't accept where the gaming market is shifting, but then again if its about the money all i have to do to change the market is reach into my pocket pull out my plastic and play hard to get... not hard to do with great games like morrowind out there already.

Kurayamino · 8th Dec 2007, 00:05

You mean they just fall for the flashy tv adverts, i'd say that was stupidity.

AcidJiles · 8th Dec 2007, 09:21

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You mean they just fall for the flashy tv adverts, i'd say that was stupidity.

most people are stupid

7th Dec 2007, 12:50	#1
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7th Dec 2007, 20:29	#11
wolff000 I am here to steal your secrets. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Never-never Land Posts: 196	I read reviews on sites i trust but that doesn't keep me from playing a game myself. People have different tastes and just because a reviewer I usually agree with doesn't like it doesn't automatically mean I won't like it. That's why I love renting games so I can at least try before I buy, for my console games anyway. I wish you could do that with pc games as well. I know it wouldn't work for pc games because of piracy but it would be nice. __________________ The gospel accordong to Myamoto, Chatper three, verse six..."And it is written that the gaming of man will die, and rest silent for two years. But on the eighty-fifth year of the twentieth century, it shall rise again. And its triumphant return shall be heralded by two great plumbers and thou will know gaming has been born again."

7th Dec 2007, 13:35	#5
cjoyce1980 Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Posts: 343	I can't say that I'm a hardcore gamer, but I'm not casual either. I do enjoy reading reviews about games that I think I might enjoy playing, like bioshock, assassins creed, etc..... which are amazing games! But when it come to my annual purchase of a football game, it's either FIFA or Pro Evo, that's never based on reviews I always try before I buy. Reviews are more important to games that have not established themselves. Franchises are more of the same with extra bits added on, and so reviews are less important, it more about the costumers preference, if you use my FIFA and Pro Evo example.

7th Dec 2007, 17:01	#7
aggies11 Multimodder Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 171	Agree wholeheartedly. If Peggle hadn't came out, Crysis would have been loads better! ... Aggies

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