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CardJoe · 14th Dec 2007, 09:58

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/12...aming_office/1

The US Army has put together a brand new gaming brigade, the aim of which is to develop new games for use as training simulations.

Stickeh · 14th Dec 2007, 11:20

'Press the F key to fix your jammed gun'

gpw111 · 14th Dec 2007, 11:22

press the f key to abuse the prisoners

Bungle · 14th Dec 2007, 11:41

I thought Frontlines: Fuel of War was the new training tool for the army. Next war is surely to be over oil (again).

Drexial · 14th Dec 2007, 14:45

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So, today’s assignment is thus; what role can computer games play in building real-world combat skills and how ethical is it to create simulated violence which can possibly desensitize people to the effects of their actions while, at the same time, training them in how to use and handle all manner of weapons? Thoughts in the forums.

i really don't think it desensitizes people as much as you would think. i mean i play violent video games all the time, but i definitely couldn't just go out on the street and kill some one. my morals are still intact. it would take a very extreme situation for me to even consider harming another person let alone killing them. But the surprise will be on the soldiers once they've trained with a computer then have to face down their first real opponent. I don't think they will be half as prepared as they think they would be. But then again they train on blank cut outs now.... i suppose maybe they just have it in them.

liratheal · 14th Dec 2007, 15:47

Does it come with an 'airstrike friendlies' option?

I know this isn't true for a lot of people, but personally, I couldn't do even half the things I do in games, which makes me find the 'desensitization' thing somewhat far fetched. I'd be more willing to believe that impressionable people are more struck by the content of a game, rather than the game desensitizing the user into being mentally capable of doing certain things. That doesn't read right, to even me, but I lack the time to put sufficient thought into it right this second. The only game content that'd get me 'killing' is zombies. But since they're already dead, does that even count?

Nix · 14th Dec 2007, 16:50

Press F10 to desert the army

r4tch3t · 14th Dec 2007, 22:28

So they are focusing on graphics and level editors huh, I would have thought they would concentrate on making realistic AI so the soldiers can train against them.

The_Beast · 14th Dec 2007, 22:36

maybe they're training "The Computer" to kill all humans

Amon · 14th Dec 2007, 22:53

Hooah!

r3Q · 16th Dec 2007, 09:39

im in the navy, and i think its a great idea.

to be quite honest, virtually all of the fellow members that i currently know are interested in some videogame or another, i think if they grant time at work, and off work to play these games with eachother, maybe with some sort of gun-like input device guys would have lots of fun and learn better as a team in a safe enviornment.

i tell you what, ive been playing carmeggedon, SOF, quake, doom, hexen, ect for as long as i can remember, and it would take quite a lot in order for me to harm someone, ive never been in a fight - however close it may have been. but i actually think violence in video games makes me personally realize what is actually going on.

CoD2 for example, actually playing a role in D-Day made me question the fact that it is physically possible that the event in history actually happened, and that we actually won. and that game was not even THAT violent.

its just me, but i the militarys number one priority is mission readyness. number two is the military member and his\her safety. protecting the country and the rest of the free are the number 1 priority, we sign up to risk our lives to protect the majority, so we accept that, and our safety is second. so making a pre-live scenario to get used to the live scenario, waste as little man hours (setting up a live scenario ect) as possible, and having it be enjoyable and 100% safe is a great direction to move in. as long as the keyboard does not blast over the winners head

but thats just me.

gillett · 16th Dec 2007, 09:43

Come on guys, just becuse you dont agree w/ the military you dont have to bring it up here.

chrisb2e9 · 16th Dec 2007, 14:33

no, they dont have to. but they still have the right to do so if they want to.

14th Dec 2007, 09:58	#1
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14th Dec 2007, 11:20	#2
Stickeh Help me , Help you. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nottingham Posts: 2,574	'Press the F key to fix your jammed gun' __________________ Guns don't kill people, kids who play videogames kill people.

14th Dec 2007, 11:41	#4
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liratheal Just got a great book on tape Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: High Wycombe, UK Posts: 3,633	Does it come with an 'airstrike friendlies' option? I know this isn't true for a lot of people, but personally, I couldn't do even half the things I do in games, which makes me find the 'desensitization' thing somewhat far fetched. I'd be more willing to believe that impressionable people are more struck by the content of a game, rather than the game desensitizing the user into being mentally capable of doing certain things. That doesn't read right, to even me, but I lack the time to put sufficient thought into it right this second. The only game content that'd get me 'killing' is zombies. But since they're already dead, does that even count? __________________ Gigabyte MA790FX, X4 9950 Black Edition, 8gb Geil Black Dragon, 2x4870 512mb, Antec TruePower Quattro 850w I game, Do you?

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14th Dec 2007, 22:28	#8
r4tch3t hmmmm.... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	So they are focusing on graphics and level editors huh, I would have thought they would concentrate on making realistic AI so the soldiers can train against them. __________________ Fight my Brute The quantum limit of reality might be scaled up because we're all holograms. Obviously. Once more we see that sufficiently advanced physics is indistinguishable from getting really stoned. From here

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14th Dec 2007, 22:53	#10
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16th Dec 2007, 09:39	#11
r3Q Supermodder Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Liverpool, NY Posts: 544	im in the navy, and i think its a great idea. to be quite honest, virtually all of the fellow members that i currently know are interested in some videogame or another, i think if they grant time at work, and off work to play these games with eachother, maybe with some sort of gun-like input device guys would have lots of fun and learn better as a team in a safe enviornment. i tell you what, ive been playing carmeggedon, SOF, quake, doom, hexen, ect for as long as i can remember, and it would take quite a lot in order for me to harm someone, ive never been in a fight - however close it may have been. but i actually think violence in video games makes me personally realize what is actually going on. CoD2 for example, actually playing a role in D-Day made me question the fact that it is physically possible that the event in history actually happened, and that we actually won. and that game was not even THAT violent. its just me, but i the militarys number one priority is mission readyness. number two is the military member and his\her safety. protecting the country and the rest of the free are the number 1 priority, we sign up to risk our lives to protect the majority, so we accept that, and our safety is second. so making a pre-live scenario to get used to the live scenario, waste as little man hours (setting up a live scenario ect) as possible, and having it be enjoyable and 100% safe is a great direction to move in. as long as the keyboard does not blast over the winners head but thats just me. __________________ -r3Q Athalon XP2400+ @2.1ghz, Abit NF7-S, 80gb, seagate SATA, GeForce 6600GT, 1gb DDR-400 ram, modded Razer: Viper official moderator at caraudio.com

16th Dec 2007, 09:43	#12
gillett Minimodder Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 22	Come on guys, just becuse you dont agree w/ the military you dont have to bring it up here.

16th Dec 2007, 14:33	#13
chrisb2e9 Dont do that... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,068	no, they dont have to. but they still have the right to do so if they want to.