Hell freezes over as Sony drops DRM - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 4th Jan 2008, 13:10

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/01...ny_drops_drm/1

I know it's damn cold here in Blighty, but I didn't think I'd live to see the day when Sony BMG plans to drop DRM (and sell music through channels other than Apples iTunes).

DXR_13KE · 4th Jan 2008, 13:50

Sony is starting to see the light.....

steveo_mcg · 4th Jan 2008, 13:53

Just make cd's cheaper and i might actually buy them... oh yeah and release something worth listening too

/complaints about just being noise on the radio

Xir · 4th Jan 2008, 14:12

I actually buy CD's....

...but I havent bought one within oh...2-3 years of it's release.

Meaning yes, you marketing-guru's out there, let me give you a disturbingly new thought: Price does matter!

Firehed · 4th Jan 2008, 14:37

A big step in the right direction.

Lazarus Dark · 4th Jan 2008, 15:19

There hasn't been any good "mainstream" music since the mid 90's anyway. If it's made in the last ten years and sold more than 100,000 then it's crap anyway, why pay for that?

naokaji · 4th Jan 2008, 15:23

Sony ditches DRM? what the ****? i always thought it would be more likely that the pope converts to buddhism....

anyway, good job sony on getting rid of that crap... now just cut the cd prices in half.

Bauul · 4th Jan 2008, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Lazarus Dark

There hasn't been any good "mainstream" music since the mid 90's anyway. If it's made in the last ten years and sold more than 100,000 then it's crap anyway, why pay for that?

Pish! Depends on what you mean by Mainstream, but there is some excellent music coming along now, well unless you're a Backstreet Boys fan. Let us know what bands you like and I gurantee we can suggest some mainstream acts that'll float your boat.

Tyinsar · 4th Jan 2008, 15:42

Sounds like a "half effort" done purely for marketing.

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Originally Posted by Caption under picture

Buying Sony BMG music should now start to come DRM free - so no longer has should it have such a "bite".

gooder engrish

Delphium · 4th Jan 2008, 16:11

About time tbh

Can only hope that others follow suite.

E.E.L. Ambiense · 4th Jan 2008, 16:49

I'm glad to see a step in the right direction, albeit a little late. In fact, supporting DRM at all in these regards is a bit ridiculous bordering on preposterous. This doesn't really effect me personally, as I don't really buy 'big mainstream' type music anyways. 95% of what I get is generally tiny label stuff or direct from the artist on CD. But I am glad Sony is starting to see the light, or at least understanding things from the consumers' point of view.

I've never used iTunes, nor will I ever, unless they want to start offering all DRM-free high-quality correctly and securely ripped stuff either in V0/320 mp3's or FLAC from artists other than big label trite crap. But apparently I'm in the minority.

pendragon · 4th Jan 2008, 18:53

i had considered maybe buying some songs off iTunes due to the gift certificate I received for Christmas, however after not being able to find decent non-DRM songs, I think I'll pass on it alltogether

edit: as for Sony "dropping DRM" .. I fully expect some PR spin from the same genius that said Sony PS3's couldn't be found in stock!

richms · 5th Jan 2008, 00:32

I dont buy pop music because most of what is sold today is compressed to hell so I may as well be listening on a boombox, and in the case of lots of big selling artists they have no vocal talent so its processed to hell.

See if you can find maroon 5's apperance on rove online, and then tell me how you think it compares to the fat balding drunk guy at karaoke - quite similar I thought.

With it being so crap, it sounds bad no matter what you do to it, so a 128 mp3 of it is fine, it just has a bit more distortion that you dont notice over whats already being killed out of it by all the soft clipping.

BurningFeetMan · 5th Jan 2008, 00:58

Until online music retailers have a similar setup to Steam, I will not be purchasing any music in any format other than a compact disc. No way in hell will I lose a few gigs of music to a virus or hardware failure, only to have to repurchase the lot again. I want an account, where I can clearly see what albums I've bought and can freely download when ever I feel like.

Breach · 5th Jan 2008, 01:22

*Dances on DRMs grave*

Bout time they realized the millions of dollars they may have well been burning for heat they wasted on that broken tech.

Havok154 · 5th Jan 2008, 01:50

I'm waiting for the clarification that says "Sony moves away from Digital Rights Management. Creates Intellectual Property Protection instead".

But hey, if we can actually take this for face value, then I'll have to throw a party.

thermalnightmare47 · 5th Jan 2008, 04:14

what cd is that? is it just some sony BMG demo cd i like the design of it, anyway i think its a good way towards the death of DRM and the start of something that wont slit our throats in the processs

Hells_Bliss · 5th Jan 2008, 04:23

yeah, just make sure you scan your system for rootkits after buying some of their music. "Oh no, we don't use drm! and we'd never use rootkits again after being caught...twice" I trust Sony as far as I can throw it and since it's pretty ephemeral, thats not very far.

flabber · 5th Jan 2008, 11:38

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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE

Sony is starting to see the light.....

A very small light though, seeing that they only "open" part of their slow-selling artists

I really hope they'll get rid of ALL drm, and not open it up at one section, and making a new (100th) online musicstore that sells utter poo and drm ánd at a normal CD-price

Mankz · 5th Jan 2008, 12:02

DRM never stopped me in the first place.

4th Jan 2008, 13:10	#1
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4th Jan 2008, 16:49	#11
E.E.L. Ambiense Acrylic Heretic Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Malabar, FL Posts: 2,721	I'm glad to see a step in the right direction, albeit a little late. In fact, supporting DRM at all in these regards is a bit ridiculous bordering on preposterous. This doesn't really effect me personally, as I don't really buy 'big mainstream' type music anyways. 95% of what I get is generally tiny label stuff or direct from the artist on CD. But I am glad Sony is starting to see the light, or at least understanding things from the consumers' point of view. I've never used iTunes, nor will I ever, unless they want to start offering all DRM-free high-quality correctly and securely ripped stuff either in V0/320 mp3's or FLAC from artists other than big label trite crap. But apparently I'm in the minority. __________________ Latest Builds: "Movie Sign!" • CheckMate - MotM May '09 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • BluBawx I • Lumière Noire - MotM Apr. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Razzle Dazzle • CMC Field Server • "Building Better Worlds" - MotM Feb. '08 ~~Nominee~~ Loser! • Biohazard • MicroSuperFly

4th Jan 2008, 18:53	#12
pendragon I pickle they Join Date: May 2004 Location: Massachusetts,usa Posts: 629	i had considered maybe buying some songs off iTunes due to the gift certificate I received for Christmas, however after not being able to find decent non-DRM songs, I think I'll pass on it alltogether edit: as for Sony "dropping DRM" .. I fully expect some PR spin from the same genius that said Sony PS3's couldn't be found in stock! __________________ -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d-@ s-:>: a- C++$ UL---@ P++>+++++$ L+ E----@ W+++ N o? K? w++>+++++ O---@ M-- V? PS--() PE+@ Y? PGP-@ t+(+++) 5(+)@ X@ R+(++) tv@ b++ DI@ D++ G e++>+++++ h! r(%) y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

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richms Minimodder Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 34	I dont buy pop music because most of what is sold today is compressed to hell so I may as well be listening on a boombox, and in the case of lots of big selling artists they have no vocal talent so its processed to hell. See if you can find maroon 5's apperance on rove online, and then tell me how you think it compares to the fat balding drunk guy at karaoke - quite similar I thought. With it being so crap, it sounds bad no matter what you do to it, so a 128 mp3 of it is fine, it just has a bit more distortion that you dont notice over whats already being killed out of it by all the soft clipping.

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BurningFeetMan Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 91	Until online music retailers have a similar setup to Steam, I will not be purchasing any music in any format other than a compact disc. No way in hell will I lose a few gigs of music to a virus or hardware failure, only to have to repurchase the lot again. I want an account, where I can clearly see what albums I've bought and can freely download when ever I feel like.

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5th Jan 2008, 01:50	#16
Havok154 Multimodder Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 79	I'm waiting for the clarification that says "Sony moves away from Digital Rights Management. Creates Intellectual Property Protection instead". But hey, if we can actually take this for face value, then I'll have to throw a party.

5th Jan 2008, 04:14	#17
thermalnightmare47 Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 70	what cd is that? is it just some sony BMG demo cd i like the design of it, anyway i think its a good way towards the death of DRM and the start of something that wont slit our throats in the processs __________________ Custom 5U Rackmount ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe, AMD X2 6000+,4GB G.SKILL DDR2 800 XFX 8800GT SLI 512Mb,X-Fi XtremeMusic,WD Raptor 150Gb(raid 0) Seagate 'Cudas 1Tb x2,PCP&C Silencer 750, Dell P1110 x2 - none since fire

5th Jan 2008, 04:23	#18
Hells_Bliss Supermodder Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NC, USA Posts: 548	yeah, just make sure you scan your system for rootkits after buying some of their music. "Oh no, we don't use drm! and we'd never use rootkits again after being caught...twice" I trust Sony as far as I can throw it and since it's pretty ephemeral, thats not very far. __________________ Asus P5N32-SLi Extreme, Intel Conroe E6600 @ 2.4GHz, 4GB Corsair XMS2 @ 1060MHz, eVGA GeForce 8800 GTX @ 621MHz, 2 WD 250GB 7200RPM HDD's, Creative Soundblaster Fatal1ty pro