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CardJoe · 16th Jan 2008, 07:29

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/01...ame_violence/1

Gordon Brown has spoken about how videogame game violence bothers him and how he things the industry needs to be take more responsibility.

Omnituens · 16th Jan 2008, 07:45

But has he considered the effects of the max movement velocity of the kids?

outlawaol · 16th Jan 2008, 08:17

O_o

What next? The war on your kitchen utensils? "Oh my no, that child is flipping a hamburger in a rather disturbing way". Next thing you know you'll be using spoons as weapons in all your games! "Quick spoon'm, hes around the corner SPOON HIM!"

Crazy I tell ya...

Jamie · 16th Jan 2008, 08:19

The knife is an invaluable weapon in CoD4, please don't ban it Mr Brown.

Herbicide · 16th Jan 2008, 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our Esteemed PM

No one wants censorship or an interfering State, but...

I've heard tell that the government is thinking about banning katanas and hunting knives (for certain values of katana or hunting knife).

Now it's videogames getting the kneejerk treatment.

I think we're going to have an(other) interesting few years.

- H.

Delphium · 16th Jan 2008, 08:39

hmmmmm visions of a G.Brown model for SoF2. Let the dicing begin hrhr

Jordan Wise · 16th Jan 2008, 08:49

can't be having that. This completely ruins my 'Leon' style of gameplay, start with snipers, then as you get better move in closer with automatic weapons, then when your really good, pistols, and when you've mastered it, knives.

AlexB · 16th Jan 2008, 09:22

What's the plan for Movies then? Books? Paintball games? etc.

Bauul · 16th Jan 2008, 09:23

All games teach you is that if you have to resort to the knife, chances are, you're fooked.

skpstr · 16th Jan 2008, 09:27

Maybe he should worry more about running the country, dealing with the possibility of teachers striking, the under funding of the armed forces, MRSA running rampant through our hospitals, the ever increasing dept burden due to rip off britain, etc.

The industry already age rates their games, the next step in kids getting hold of these games is the responsibility of the parents and the retail outlets.

Krikkit · 16th Jan 2008, 10:04

Ha! An interview with The Sun, I'm sure that had him writhing - he'd rather have us married before sex and never have any fun.

OT: The place to tackle knife-crime is in the minds of the perpatrators, not in video games. All you have to do is make it plain that in the real world, knife crime is totally unacceptable.

naokaji · 16th Jan 2008, 10:30

he should do something about the ever rising house prices... the problem that dental treatment isnt covered by nhs, insane car insurance pricing and other real life issues rather than trying to ban games.

besides, maybe he should remember that both world wars happened before computers existed. (translate as: people killed each other before the computer was invented).

CardJoe · 16th Jan 2008, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauul

All games teach you is that if you have to resort to the knife, chances are, you're fooked.

LOL

Delphium · 16th Jan 2008, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bauul

All games teach you is that if you have to resort to the knife, chances are, you're fooked.

HRHRHR

Quote:

Originally Posted by skpstr

Maybe he should worry more about running the country, dealing with the possibility of teachers striking, the under funding of the armed forces, MRSA running rampant through our hospitals, the ever increasing dept burden due to rip off britain, etc.

The industry already age rates their games, the next step in kids getting hold of these games is the responsibility of the parents and the retail outlets.

Dam stright!!!!

However, if everyone was inside playing games, be it games with knifes in or not, then there would be less/no people out on the streets stabbing or getting stabbed =]

Almightyrastus · 16th Jan 2008, 10:48

It has been seen in cases such as the banning of cartridge firing pistols from mainland Britain (you can still get a license in NI for them) and the restrictions under the violent crime reduction act that the only people these bans affect are those who are willing to follow the law in the first place and as such are those who are going to be least likely to commit violent crimes.

The criminals who are carrying knives with the intent to use them in violent acts or who are even 'carrying them for defence' (as this makes any knife an offensive weapon when carried) are never going to hand them in just because Mr. Brown says so.

As far as the banning of hunting knifes, there is a LOT more evidence that ordinary kitchen knives are used in crime far more frequently than specialised fighting knives. You see this in the piles of handed in knives that the police love to parade after every amnesty they run, they have to search through to find the example they like to show as 'the evil pieces that our youths are carrying'

D3s3rt_F0x · 16th Jan 2008, 11:38

Playing counter-strike running around knifing people in the back makes me want to do it in real life............or maybe not

Thing is anyone ever seen him @ PMQs he seriously needs to box or maybe play computer games to get his anger out cause hes like a angry bear with a sore head lol

Gotta love the nanny state

*edit* Kieth Vaz just raised this during PMQ's asking for a more responsible games industry, new legislation and new classification laws

[USRF]Obiwan · 16th Jan 2008, 12:43

Well, then lets bring in the Crowbar. Much more useful then a knife. You can smash headcrabs with it. Open doors, smash in some wooden crates, or smash 'white-shirt-blue-trouwsers' wearing crazy people that wants to attack you with their extreme long vingernails. The only drawback is its size and weight. But some guy named Gordon did not mind to cary it around for ages alongside som guns,bazoka, rifles and some other devices. But then again he had a metal armor suit thing...

All jokes aside. I rather see people fight in games then on the IRL streets...

Delphium · 16th Jan 2008, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan

Well, then lets bring in the Crowbar.

hawky84 · 16th Jan 2008, 12:52

I wonder if Mr.Brown will ban Preditor from using that awesome wrist blade to gut an Alien in the real one and only AVP film?

If parents would get off their fat arses and start disciplining their kids or maybe even just stopping their 12 year old from watching / playing the R rated media.

Gunsmith · 16th Jan 2008, 12:55

perhaps mr brown should be more woried over the violence (towards him) over fuel pricing before videogames

16th Jan 2008, 07:29	#1
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16th Jan 2008, 11:38	#16
D3s3rt_F0x Hypermodder Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Near Middlesbrough Posts: 681	Playing counter-strike running around knifing people in the back makes me want to do it in real life............or maybe not Thing is anyone ever seen him @ PMQs he seriously needs to box or maybe play computer games to get his anger out cause hes like a angry bear with a sore head lol Gotta love the nanny state edit Kieth Vaz just raised this during PMQ's asking for a more responsible games industry, new legislation and new classification laws Last edited by D3s3rt_F0x; 16th Jan 2008 at 12:23.

16th Jan 2008, 12:43	#17
[USRF]Obiwan Ultramodder Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,220	Well, then lets bring in the Crowbar. Much more useful then a knife. You can smash headcrabs with it. Open doors, smash in some wooden crates, or smash 'white-shirt-blue-trouwsers' wearing crazy people that wants to attack you with their extreme long vingernails. The only drawback is its size and weight. But some guy named Gordon did not mind to cary it around for ages alongside som guns,bazoka, rifles and some other devices. But then again he had a metal armor suit thing... All jokes aside. I rather see people fight in games then on the IRL streets... __________________ Mascleta: "The most accurate simulation of thunder, humans can simulate..." The answer is 42, so... whats the question again? If you know what 'Peek' and 'Poke' represents, then you are probably as old as me.

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