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Tim S · 17th Jan 2008, 09:42

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/01...ate_the_riaa/1

Not content with making the entire music-listening world (heck, and half the artists) hate their guts, the RIAA is seeking to alienate reviewers with a new low-tech anti-piracy 'system'.

Glider · 17th Jan 2008, 09:47

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“as a reviewer I have to review what is put in front of me, what my ears hear, [not] what I want them to hear.”

SO true...

Solidus · 17th Jan 2008, 10:14

what a bunch of idiots.

hawky84 · 17th Jan 2008, 10:31

well at least the RIAA are killing themselves so we don't have to

DXR_13KE · 17th Jan 2008, 10:34

what the f***? they are alienating their reviewers? either they crapping inside or they are eating spoons full of smelly brown stuff.....

mmorgue · 17th Jan 2008, 10:38

I think this sort of move goes to show just how a) desperate, b) out of touch and c) lacking in intelligence the RIAA are nowadays.

As said before -- nothing we need to do anymore -- just sit back and let them kill themselves!

naokaji · 17th Jan 2008, 10:57

reviewers are evil, because a positive review leads to better sales, and better sales = less reason for the riaa to exist.

that or something similar must have gone through the riaa's distorted minds when they came up with that complete bs idea.

Paradigm Shifter · 17th Jan 2008, 11:35

And when the reviewers stop reviewing, they'll blame that on piracy too.

plagio · 17th Jan 2008, 11:38

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---for some reason with an Italian accent--.

You are kidding right ?

DXR_13KE · 17th Jan 2008, 11:53

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Originally Posted by plagio

You are kidding right ?

"itsa me mario!!!!!"

Dr. Strangelove · 17th Jan 2008, 12:14

All in all sounds like a very stupid idea BUT:
The reviewers needs to review music, thats their job, if they refuse to review music because it's got Italian voice overs then the publication (whether website or magazine) will find other reviewers who will review the music because they need the reviews to sell. I'm sure that most reviewers will scream, cry and shout and then 99% of them will continue to review what ever the music industry sends them. One thing is for sure, music with voice overs will be a lot less attractive to pirate than movies with a bit of scrolling text.
So all in all, however much we hate the RIAA this might not be the dumbest thing they have done to date, from a "stop the piracy"-point of view.

mrb_no1 · 17th Jan 2008, 13:50

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Originally Posted by mmorgue

I think this sort of move goes to show just how a) desperate, b) out of touch and c) lacking in intelligence the RIAA are nowadays.

As said before -- nothing we need to do anymore -- just sit back and let them kill themselves!

lol i agree. What are they thinking? ... but we dont know what kind of pressures are coming from distributors to have the problem 'fixed'. The RIAA are probably scrambling around like a bunch of pikeys fighting for a new caravan to find something to enforce to show the world that it is doing something. All in all i find it quite ammusing to see what they are going to do next.

peace

Notional · 17th Jan 2008, 13:55

How completely retarded are these people?

Well now i want to pirate this album, just to hear the Italien voiceover

wolff000 · 17th Jan 2008, 14:31

I just love the RIAA. I don't think I have ever seen a corporate entity hang itself so publicly. Just one more step on the gallows for something that should have never existed in the first place.

Andune · 17th Jan 2008, 15:28

Soon game reviewers will get copies of games only playable for two minutes before they selfdestruct...

E.E.L. Ambiense · 17th Jan 2008, 15:37

I had pulled a copy of Type O Negative's "Life Is Killing Me" album a few years back on torrent, and it had fade-outs towards the end of the track stating the artist, album & release date. I thought it was an interesting way of advertising. I, of course, went out and bought it as I always do with Type O's material, but I just couldn't wait for the new album (if anyone's familiar with their work, they tend to put one out every 4-5 years so it's a LOOONG wait for fans).

This RIAA scheme is a new high in low.

lessthanjake · 17th Jan 2008, 16:13

This is nothing new, there have been voice stamped cd's doing the rounds for at least 5 years, the retail version of this cd was released may 2003 and it was not even a hugely commercial release.

Tuxcat · 17th Jan 2008, 18:00

The reason the voice on the munged record has an Italian accent is because -- and this will astonish you -- Frontiers Records is an Italian label. Being an Italian label, it is not a member of the RIAA, which represents U.S. record labels.

Blaming every stupid thing any record label does on the evil ol' RIAA is dubious anyway. The RIAA is a lobbying organization, not a governing body. But when the label in question is not, and cannot be, an RIAA member, it's just plain idiotic.

And I might point out that the reviewer linked to in this article did not make this error and doesn't even mention the RIAA. Sometimes it's better to find out what you're talking about.

Not that pointing this out will make the slightest difference, of course.

supermonkey · 17th Jan 2008, 19:32

Is this really such a bad thing? These aren't production copies of an album. They are review copies handed out to a select group of people to be used as such. If the middle of a song features a voice over for a couple of seconds, does it really ruin the entire album? Does a professional reviewer rely on every single note to create an informed opinion about a song?

If a studio wants to add protection to a review album, I don't have a problem with that.

-monkey

Da Dego · 17th Jan 2008, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Tuxcat

The reason the voice on the munged record has an Italian accent is because -- and this will astonish you -- Frontiers Records is an Italian label. Being an Italian label, it is not a member of the RIAA, which represents U.S. record labels.

Blaming every stupid thing any record label does on the evil ol' RIAA is dubious anyway. The RIAA is a lobbying organization, not a governing body. But when the label in question is not, and cannot be, an RIAA member, it's just plain idiotic.

And I might point out that the reviewer linked to in this article did not make this error and doesn't even mention the RIAA. Sometimes it's better to find out what you're talking about.

Not that pointing this out will make the slightest difference, of course.

Oddly, I have to agree here - Frontiers is indeed Italian, so that portion makes utter sense. What I'm curious about is whether the label does indeed come under the RIAA blanket for business here in the States - I'm looking into that now.

Though I will go against what you say about lobbying - the RIAA is a lobbying body, but it is also the key governing body of the industry. It started out its life much like JEDIC - it devised technical standards for recording methods and frequencies. Then it expanded...and more... and more...

EDIT:
http://www.riaa.com/aboutus.php?cont...boutus_members

Nope, not a member in proper sense. However, worth noting that the RIAA is the 'managing body' for the collection of royalty fees for foreign labels in the US. But I wonder how that works if the label were to choose not to be a part of it?

17th Jan 2008, 09:42	#1
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mmorgue Supermodder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mos Eisley, in the bar... Posts: 378	I think this sort of move goes to show just how a) desperate, b) out of touch and c) lacking in intelligence the RIAA are nowadays. As said before -- nothing we need to do anymore -- just sit back and let them kill themselves!

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Dr. Strangelove Supermodder Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dundee Posts: 306	All in all sounds like a very stupid idea BUT: The reviewers needs to review music, thats their job, if they refuse to review music because it's got Italian voice overs then the publication (whether website or magazine) will find other reviewers who will review the music because they need the reviews to sell. I'm sure that most reviewers will scream, cry and shout and then 99% of them will continue to review what ever the music industry sends them. One thing is for sure, music with voice overs will be a lot less attractive to pirate than movies with a bit of scrolling text. So all in all, however much we hate the RIAA this might not be the dumbest thing they have done to date, from a "stop the piracy"-point of view. __________________ If it isn’t broken, fix it. If it is broken, mod it till it looks like it's meant to be broken.

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17th Jan 2008, 16:13	#17
lessthanjake Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: UK Posts: 119	This is nothing new, there have been voice stamped cd's doing the rounds for at least 5 years, the retail version of this cd was released may 2003 and it was not even a hugely commercial release.

17th Jan 2008, 18:00	#18
Tuxcat What's a Dremel? Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2	The RIAA has nothing to do with it The reason the voice on the munged record has an Italian accent is because -- and this will astonish you -- Frontiers Records is an Italian label. Being an Italian label, it is not a member of the RIAA, which represents U.S. record labels. Blaming every stupid thing any record label does on the evil ol' RIAA is dubious anyway. The RIAA is a lobbying organization, not a governing body. But when the label in question is not, and cannot be, an RIAA member, it's just plain idiotic. And I might point out that the reviewer linked to in this article did not make this error and doesn't even mention the RIAA. Sometimes it's better to find out what you're talking about. Not that pointing this out will make the slightest difference, of course.

17th Jan 2008, 19:32	#19
supermonkey Space Monkey Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 2,710	Is this really such a bad thing? These aren't production copies of an album. They are review copies handed out to a select group of people to be used as such. If the middle of a song features a voice over for a couple of seconds, does it really ruin the entire album? Does a professional reviewer rely on every single note to create an informed opinion about a song? If a studio wants to add protection to a review album, I don't have a problem with that. -monkey __________________ But of bliss and of glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song. -J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion