Forget ISPs, your PC should snitch - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 8th Feb 2008, 08:45

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/02...hould_snitch/1

RIAA boss Cary Sherman would like to see anti-virus programs extended to scan for and prevent access to illicitly downloaded copyright materials on your PCs.

noobarino · 8th Feb 2008, 08:51

1 million to whoever shoots Cary Sherman

cyrilthefish · 8th Feb 2008, 08:56

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or is it a small price to pay for keeping the poor artists fed?

The RIAA doesn't care about that, only leeching as much money as possible for themselves... take this for example:

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...sticks-writers

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THE RIAA has long held that its court actions against P2P pirates were all about protecting the creative work of musicians and song writers.

However its agenda became fairly obvious yesterday when the record labels within the RIAA all agreed with Yahoo, Apple and Napster to lower royalties to songwriters.

Its argument is that music studios have suffered much from the switch to traditional records to digital media and they need the extra money. It should be songwriters who pay for the expensive court cases and the losses sustained.

The debate is about the "mechanical royalty", which are payments made for copies of sound recordings and music.

The RIAA wants the Copyright Royalty Board to reduce the rate to eight per cent of wholesale revenue. Currently the cash to be split between publisher and songwriter is about nine cents per song, according to the Hollywood Reporter. µ

Woodstock · 8th Feb 2008, 09:01

and yet another reason to love linux

yakyb · 8th Feb 2008, 09:12

i would rather run without AV to be honest

this guy has no clue tho why would i need a decoder on an MP3 they could only force the encoder on Legit stuff which they shouldnt be checking for anyway all this could possible do would be to stop people transfering Legit music accross PCs which would mean no playback in different rooms of the house the guy is a F@@@Tard

Cthippo · 8th Feb 2008, 09:32

Thanks, I needed a reminder as to why I switched to linux!

Seriously, why shoudl AV manufacturers, or for that matter OS manufacturers piss off their customer base to pander to an industry that creates no revenue for them?

Whatever this guy is smoking, I want some.

Woodstock · 8th Feb 2008, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Cthippo

Whatever this guy is smoking, I want some.

Id rather not sound like a d**k

iwog · 8th Feb 2008, 09:57

Yeah at that point i'd just install linux. There'd be a distro out there that wouldn't have any filtering.

Also how would the software be able to tell the difference between personal rips and stuff distributed over the internet without adding a load of bloat to the file structure or inventing a whole new codec that no one would use.

Woodstock · 8th Feb 2008, 10:08

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Originally Posted by iwog

Yeah at that point i'd just install linux. There'd be a distro out there that wouldn't have any filtering.

i honestly doubt any of them will have it, at least none of the ones with a true open source spirit

LeMaltor · 8th Feb 2008, 10:20

You wouldn't have to install Linux, in 5 mins it would be circumvented by the hackers and we can all live happily ever after

mmorgue · 8th Feb 2008, 10:29

Well, if it goes thru, then it sets a horrific precident and is yet another piece of personal freedom and liberty eroded away.

Xtrafresh · 8th Feb 2008, 10:52

Someone should make a timeline of all RIAA's stupid ideas, miserable failures, lost cases and outright insults to both musicians and listeners.

Stuff like this is important to document, so we can teach our kids in school to learn from past mistakes.

alextwo · 8th Feb 2008, 10:57

This just wouldn't work. It would require a new platform of bit torrent clients with this encryption built in. Current technology already circumvents this problem so why would people move to this crippled version of bit torrent. The RIAA really are idiots.

Woodstock · 8th Feb 2008, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

Someone should make a timeline of all RIAA's stupid ideas, miserable failures, lost cases and outright insults to both musicians and listeners.

Stuff like this is important to document, so we can teach our kids in school to learn from past mistakes.

would be depressing to write wouldnt it

samkiller42 · 8th Feb 2008, 12:12

In some respects, this sounds a bit like spyware (or equivilent of)

Sam

naokaji · 8th Feb 2008, 12:20

the riaa once again proofed that there are indeed humans that are less intelligent than a stone, now they just need to answer why they hire them in masses.

Mankz · 8th Feb 2008, 12:22

Great. So now I have NO PRIVACY WHAT-SO-EVER!. Thanks.

chrisb2e9 · 8th Feb 2008, 13:33

sure sure, force this into the next os from Microsoft. just gives me another reason to goto a different OS or keep using my old one.

chicorasia · 8th Feb 2008, 13:41

Oh, I see. If the RIAA has it its way, antivirus/antispyware software would become spyware itself!

What's next? Will they send an agent to every home and office to look over your shoulder, to make sure you are listening only to RIAA-approved-proprietary-encrypted-file-format on RIAA-approved hardware and software?

liratheal · 8th Feb 2008, 13:41

Agreeing with everyone else that's said it - If it crops up in Windows, I can see a mass migration to Linux. I'm not interested in spyware when it's free, let alone paying a company to give it me.

Besides, wouldn't it be easier to hook a linux box to your sound equipment and do your illegal on that, using a completely clean Windows/Mac environment with only legal music?

Bunch of colossal morons.

8th Feb 2008, 08:45	#1
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8th Feb 2008, 09:12	#5
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8th Feb 2008, 09:32	#6
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8th Feb 2008, 09:57	#8
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8th Feb 2008, 08:51	#2
noobarino Minimodder Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 33	1 million to whoever shoots Cary Sherman

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8th Feb 2008, 10:57	#13
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8th Feb 2008, 13:33	#18
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8th Feb 2008, 13:41	#19
chicorasia Multimodder Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 84	Oh, I see. If the RIAA has it its way, antivirus/antispyware software would become spyware itself! What's next? Will they send an agent to every home and office to look over your shoulder, to make sure you are listening only to RIAA-approved-proprietary-encrypted-file-format on RIAA-approved hardware and software?

8th Feb 2008, 13:41	#20
liratheal Just got a great book on tape Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: High Wycombe, UK Posts: 3,617	Agreeing with everyone else that's said it - If it crops up in Windows, I can see a mass migration to Linux. I'm not interested in spyware when it's free, let alone paying a company to give it me. Besides, wouldn't it be easier to hook a linux box to your sound equipment and do your illegal on that, using a completely clean Windows/Mac environment with only legal music? Bunch of colossal morons. __________________ Gigabyte MA790FX, X4 9950 Black Edition, 8gb Geil Black Dragon, 2x4870 512mb, Antec TruePower Quattro 850w I game, Do you?