EA: "We blew it with Bullfrog, Westwood" - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 11th Feb 2008, 16:56

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/02...og_westwood_/1

In a frank admission of failure, EA's CEO has admitted that some acquisitions the company has made haven't turned out very well.

veryevil · 11th Feb 2008, 17:10

"Twenty minutes. Out front. Pufferfish" Ha Ha Ha Ha

Zero Punctuation is the funniest thing on the net.

Redbeaver · 11th Feb 2008, 17:11

admitting ur wrong is a step in the right direction.

Bauul · 11th Feb 2008, 17:13

Good on them. It's something the rest of the entire world already knew, but everystep in the right direction is a good thing.

Firehed · 11th Feb 2008, 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redbeaver

admitting ur wrong is a step in the right direction.

Agreed.

There will always be a place in my blackened, shriveled heart for Bullfrog's classic Dungeon Keeper. It's the only RTS-ish game that's really worked well for me. And who could ever pass up a game whose slogan is, "Evil is Good"?

CardJoe · 11th Feb 2008, 17:26

Sigh. Don't get Bauul started on Dungeon Keeper. It is to him what a mix of Monkey Island, Beyond Good and Evil and Deus Ex is to me - perfect.

Bungle · 11th Feb 2008, 17:41

I imagine Bit-tech is run a bit like Dungeon master. Work not completed on time? Slap your imp to make him work faster.

Back on thread. Agreed with comments above. EAs reputation is less than perfect for sure. Hopefully they will learn from their mistakes.

pendragon · 11th Feb 2008, 17:48

i will curse them if they ruin the awesomeness that is Bioware. Glad to hear they admitted they screwed up - hopefully that translates into: 'we won't make the same mistakes now!"

Faulk_Wulf · 11th Feb 2008, 18:24

But... Command and Conquer 3 didn't suck...
Nor does it seem like the expansion willl...
Nor does their shooter "Tiberium" seem poorly made...

I mean I miss Westwood but still...
CnC hasn't been rubish lately...

Flibblebot · 11th Feb 2008, 18:24

Isn't it curious that the same John Riccitiello used to be CEO of VG Holdings, the parent company of BioWare/Pandemic, before he left to become CEO of EA...?

samkiller42 · 11th Feb 2008, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faulk_Wulf

But... Command and Conquer 3 didn't suck...
Nor does it seem like the expansion willl...
Nor does their shooter "Tiberium" seem poorly made...

I mean I miss Westwood but still...
CnC hasn't been rubish lately...

Reason behind that is because Mike Verdu, CEO of Westwood (at the time) works at EA LA, and APOC seems to be a good guy with alot of knowledge on the C&C universe.

Sam

liratheal · 11th Feb 2008, 19:28

Holy zombie Jesus.

EA looking out for Mass Effect, and almost gamers as a whole, and now admitting they screwed up when they bought smaller companies.

Who's taken over EA?

completemadness · 11th Feb 2008, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by CardJoe

Sigh. Don't get Bauul started on Dungeon Keeper. It is to him what a mix of Monkey Island, Beyond Good and Evil and Deus Ex is to me - perfect.

DK was .... well ... _awesome_

sadly, DK2 sucked in comparison - seems to happen a lot with EA

Does this mean C&C4 (or whatever) will be a good game, made with originality? (i somewhat doubt it)

Brett89 · 11th Feb 2008, 20:02

If they actually put out a decent sequel to Renegade, I'll start to forgive EA, but none of this Tiberium stuff, I want Havoc back.

DXR_13KE · 11th Feb 2008, 20:42

that is impressive.......

also:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redbeaver

admitting ur wrong is a step in the right direction.

agreed

MonkeyNutZ · 11th Feb 2008, 20:58

"Twenty minutes. Out front. Pufferfish."

Well, we now know what you spend your time watching...

Gravemind123 · 11th Feb 2008, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by completemadness

DK was .... well ... _awesome_

sadly, DK2 sucked in comparison - seems to happen a lot with EA

Does this mean C&C4 (or whatever) will be a good game, made with originality? (i somewhat doubt it)

I'm guessing that they will continue with the Red Alert story line, as excluding generals they have alternated between storylines with each game. They make one GDI vs. Nod game, then an expansion, then make one Red Alert storyline game and an expansion, then start over again.

I don't really need them to make an original storyline, but it would be nice to have some new units and maybe some more gameplay choices(generals abilities style maybe?) in it.

dire_wolf · 11th Feb 2008, 22:57

I'm still upset they killed off DK3

*******s

Hamish · 11th Feb 2008, 22:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faulk_Wulf

But... Command and Conquer 3 didn't suck...
Nor does it seem like the expansion willl...

not compared to generals maybe, but compared to supcom? wic? sins of a solar empire?
it did bring back live action cut scenes though which was awesome

completemadness · 11th Feb 2008, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravemind123

I don't really need them to make an original storyline

Its more like some originality to the gameplay i think, C&C3 was very much a copy of the older games, with a fancier story
That's great and all, i liked the old games, but i don't see the point paying £30 (or more) over and over for practically a remake (or expansion)

Anyway, generals sucked, renegade is OK online but the SP is rubbish, Red Alert 2 was the last really good C&C game (IMO), Also, DK3 would have rocked, and another theme hospital would be very cool (if its done right)

So many good games, destroyed by EA (either by killing them off or making them rubbish)

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