Markey hopes to ban throttling - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 14th Feb 2008, 08:35

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/02...n_throttling/1

In a bill presented to the House of Representatives recently, Ed Markey is hoping to legislate the nasty practice of bandwidth throttling away.

HourBeforeDawn · 14th Feb 2008, 08:48

I hate bandwidth throttling, ugh I have already gotten two emails from my ISP saying I use to much bandwidth, honestly what the hell am I paying for really? I hope something goes through to stop throttling bandwidth. Then I can go back to fully using my internet for what Im paying it for.

Fod · 14th Feb 2008, 09:04

good!

now how about implementing the same legislation here instead of championing unworkable banning laws?

wuyanxu · 14th Feb 2008, 09:20

i second this notion.

bandwidth throttling is like when you have payed for a motorway (that payed one near Manchester) and once you got on, with no other cars, you are forced to drive at speed limit of 30mph.

Shadow_101 · 14th Feb 2008, 09:57

i think broadband needs to be in the title

[USRF]Obiwan · 14th Feb 2008, 11:07

Hmmzz..

I have unlimited bandwidth for yeeeeaars already. I collect around 500GB worth of data per month. (I watch a lot of series in HD from overseas that are not available here)

Is this a typical UK thing. I mean being left behind with everything. First the 8mbit ADSL connection introduction last year ( eh... we are on 20+ mbit ADSL now folks). and only now they are willing to discus bandwidth limitation removal?

rhuitron · 14th Feb 2008, 11:29

Markey Mark cheesecake!!!!!

By the way,
' Steve Largent has said that the bill is “an attempt to cure a problem that simply does not exist,” and that “Government intervention is not necessary.” '

Ohhh, so NOW it isn't necessary that big brother is in the mix?
But any other useless case and it would be!

cyrilthefish · 14th Feb 2008, 11:42

The sad thing is i could use more bandwidth per month on my old 512k line a had a few years back than i can now with a 10mb line

I'd quite happily pay extra to get an un-throttled connection, but the option simply isn't there

LeMaltor · 14th Feb 2008, 11:46

We need this in Britain too

freedom810 · 14th Feb 2008, 14:21

The people he is speaking too sure seem fasinated.

rhuitron · 14th Feb 2008, 15:24

^ Freedom810

I Second THAT! ROFL

p3n · 14th Feb 2008, 15:27

Im 'fine' with bandwidth limits, for example 50gb per month - if I pay for that I expect to be able to use that and at the speed im also paying for.
All this throttling based on ports/protocols HAVE to effect legit uses and unless its stated somewhere that you connection is actually 1:50-1000 contention (hi sky broadband/bt) then the telecomms companies are getting away with murder.
They're happy to sell 1 million people 10mbit connections but can only support this number of clients at worse contention than advertised.

naokaji · 14th Feb 2008, 15:28

just get rid of those old crappy copper cables so bandwidth throttling becomes unnecessary... (atleast for a while).

devdevil85 · 14th Feb 2008, 17:03

BW throttling is BS and tbh ISPs need to speed up connections rather than propogate who gets what because what I'm paying for every month is having access to the net at avg speeds of 8 Mbps download & 800 Kbps upload. Who are they to say how much of that I use every second of every day of every month? I'm paying for that access speed.

pendragon · 14th Feb 2008, 18:14

i've never had a problem with having my bandwidth throttled. However, I do support this legislation, as I think on principle, if it's advertised as unlimited it should *be* unlimited.

HourBeforeDawn · 14th Feb 2008, 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by devdevil85

BW throttling is BS and tbh ISPs need to speed up connections rather than propogate who gets what because what I'm paying for every month is having access to the net at avg speeds of 8 Mbps download & 800 Kbps upload. Who are they to say how much of that I use every second of every day of every month? I'm paying for that access speed.

exactly why should we pay for something and then not be able to use it, complete BS.

Lemur 6 · 15th Feb 2008, 00:36

Problem is, if these companies are told by the gov't that they can't throttle bandwidth, they'll just go and charge you more for it. Greedy buggers... all of them.

Sark.inc · 15th Feb 2008, 07:21

we get this in NZ

we pay for a "full speed connection" of 8mbps, but really at most the line is only capable of 3-5 because the network is so degraded, not to mention that crap data caps we get, 10gb for 60NZ= about 45USD or so

Don't get me started on the upload...

Lowsidex2 · 15th Feb 2008, 22:16

They'll get it in one form or the other. Either throttling or in a pay-per-byte subscriptions.. maybe both. But with more legit forms of p2p and online movie watching, I see the latter being the more likely outcome.

r4tch3t · 17th Feb 2008, 04:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnvrt

we get this in NZ

we pay for a "full speed connection" of 8mbps, but really at most the line is only capable of 3-5 because the network is so degraded, not to mention that crap data caps we get, 10gb for 60NZ= about 45USD or so

Don't get me started on the upload...

Yep ADSL sucks, I am with Telstra on cable and get my full 10Mbit but only 20GB for 70NZD I really miss my 16Mbit unlimited connection from the UK.

14th Feb 2008, 08:35	#1
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14th Feb 2008, 08:48	#2
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14th Feb 2008, 15:27	#12
p3n Hypermodder Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 731	Im 'fine' with bandwidth limits, for example 50gb per month - if I pay for that I expect to be able to use that and at the speed im also paying for. All this throttling based on ports/protocols HAVE to effect legit uses and unless its stated somewhere that you connection is actually 1:50-1000 contention (hi sky broadband/bt) then the telecomms companies are getting away with murder. They're happy to sell 1 million people 10mbit connections but can only support this number of clients at worse contention than advertised.

14th Feb 2008, 17:03	#14
devdevil85 Hypermodder Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 884	BW throttling is BS and tbh ISPs need to speed up connections rather than propogate who gets what because what I'm paying for every month is having access to the net at avg speeds of 8 Mbps download & 800 Kbps upload. Who are they to say how much of that I use every second of every day of every month? I'm paying for that access speed.

14th Feb 2008, 18:14	#15
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15th Feb 2008, 00:36	#17
Lemur 6 Multimodder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 121	Problem is, if these companies are told by the gov't that they can't throttle bandwidth, they'll just go and charge you more for it. Greedy buggers... all of them.

15th Feb 2008, 07:21	#18
Sark.inc Multimodder Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 148	we get this in NZ we pay for a "full speed connection" of 8mbps, but really at most the line is only capable of 3-5 because the network is so degraded, not to mention that crap data caps we get, 10gb for 60NZ= about 45USD or so Don't get me started on the upload...

15th Feb 2008, 22:16	#19
Lowsidex2 Multimodder Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Posts: 224	They'll get it in one form or the other. Either throttling or in a pay-per-byte subscriptions.. maybe both. But with more legit forms of p2p and online movie watching, I see the latter being the more likely outcome.