IE 8 will actually follow standards - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 5th Mar 2008, 07:39

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/03...ow_standards/1

Microsoft's next iteration of the Internet Explorer browser will default to rendering pages in a standards-compliant mode that rejects broken sites written for earlier versions.

HourBeforeDawn · 5th Mar 2008, 07:56

well I suppose this could be a nice change but Im still a FF user at heart so ya.... not a real issue with me, although has anyone been using FF3beta, personally Im not liking some of the changes that has taken place but thats for another thread so umm ya.....

proxess · 5th Mar 2008, 08:16

this is probably only because they now have that silverthingy which is multiplatform multibrowser to clutter up teh tubes instead of activeX which was just erm... a hole in the tubes.

yakyb · 5th Mar 2008, 09:02

opera is awesome

nuff said!

steveo_mcg · 5th Mar 2008, 09:04

/watches pigs fly past window..

Jamie · 5th Mar 2008, 09:25

I'll believe it when I no longer have to write specific css for IE.

Bauul · 5th Mar 2008, 09:52

They've done this to help their own business and make people like them again, it isn't charity, but whatever the reason it's hopefully a good result.

Aankhen · 5th Mar 2008, 10:00

Microsoft++ # this. is. AWESOME.

BTW, your article is somewhat misleading. Microsoft said a while back that they're working on a whole new engine for IE8 that will have excellent standards compliance. However, they also said recently that while there'd be this great new engine, by default, pages would be rendered as if by IE7 in order to avoid "breaking the Web". In order to render pages with the IE8 engine, Web developers would have to opt in using certain HTTP headers (or, failing that, `meta` tags).

The IEBlog entry linked to represents a step forward because now IE8 will render pages using the new engine by default, and require Web developers to specifically ask for IE7 rendering if they want it. This quote from QuirksBlog is very appropriate:

Quote:

Microsoft has decided to put the interests of web standards above the interests of the Intranets of its corporate clients.

[…]

Nonetheless, the IE team has done exactly what many standards-aware web developers wanted: it has put the onus on non-standardistas. If you want IE7 behaviour, fine, but you have to take action. If you just want standards and progressive enhancement, do nothing.

Isn't that something? The IE team is listening.

Oh, and IE8 won't "reject" broken pages, it will simply render them as befits their brokenness.

naokaji · 5th Mar 2008, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by yakyb

opera is awesome

QFT

Xtrafresh · 5th Mar 2008, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by proxess

this is probably only because they now have that silverthingy which is multiplatform multibrowser to clutter up teh tubes instead of activeX which was just erm... a hole in the tubes.

lmfao

To the article:
I totally understand this move by the IE team has shaken you up a bit. But is it absolutely nessicary to keep ridiculing M$ through the entire article? I'd like to have seen some part of 'sarcasm-free' facts, so we can all start pointing and laughing at M$ again with some factual knowledge. At least for me it's the reason i read these articles.

It sure was an entertaining read though

UncertainGod · 5th Mar 2008, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Aankhen

BTW, your article is somewhat misleading. Microsoft said a while back that they're working on a whole new engine for IE8 that will have excellent standards compliance. However, they also said recently that while there'd be this great new engine, by default, pages would be rendered as if by IE7 in order to avoid "breaking the Web". In order to render pages with the IE8 engine, Web developers would have to opt in using certain HTTP headers (or, failing that, `meta` tags).

They have changed there mind on that, now by default the app will run the IE8 standard engine unless told otherwise by the page.

Millusdk · 5th Mar 2008, 11:26

This is great news.

Aankhen · 5th Mar 2008, 12:07

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Originally Posted by UncertainGod

They have changed there mind on that, now by default the app will run the IE8 standard engine unless told otherwise by the page.

Please read the rest of my post.

DXR_13KE · 5th Mar 2008, 13:45

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Originally Posted by steveo_mcg

/watches pigs fly past window..

and hell froze over.... again....

Andy Mc · 5th Mar 2008, 18:26

Pictures or it didn't happen.....just about sums this up for me, I'll believe it when i see it.

Is it me or was that a flying toaster that just went past the windows?

Aterius Gmork · 5th Mar 2008, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Jamie

I'll believe it when I no longer have to write specific css for IE.

+1

Awesome news.

cpemma · 5th Mar 2008, 19:31

"IE8 will hopefully follow standards."

Accuracy & Precision are ar watchwords.

quack · 5th Mar 2008, 21:04

I'm posting this message from IE8.

If you want to try it out, download it here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...ss/Install.htm - but be warned, IT'S BUGGY AS HELL!!

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)

specofdust · 5th Mar 2008, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by yakyb

opera is awesome

nuff said!

Exactly. No need to use the rest when you've got th....

cpemma · 5th Mar 2008, 21:35

As we're all so very keen on sticking to standards, maybe forum software should reject all ungrammatical posts. Direct misuse of 'your', 'there', etc, to the trash.

Or do I detect hypocrisy?

5th Mar 2008, 07:39	#1
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