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Old 6th Mar 2008, 11:35   #1
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Scythe makes even bigger coolers

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/03...gger_coolers/1

How big is too big? The Orochi from Scythe has 10 heatpipes and a 14cm fan and will passively cool your CPU if need be.

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Old 6th Mar 2008, 11:38   #2
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My god...a silly side of me just wants that...badly...seriously.. it looks awesome but I have to think even with a rear mounting plate it has to stress the motherboard?
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 11:40   #3
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person a: bloody hell, I've just caried my 30 KG Computer upstairs...
person b: I told you, you should have bought an Aluminium Case.
person a: I did, but then I saw that new Scythe Cooler and coudn't resist.

Seriously though, those coolers might be good as a epeen expander, but if they will actually fit in a case is very questionable and with Certain coolers *cough* Thermalright *cough* getting pretty close to Watercooling it's questionable if there will be much of an improvement any more in Aircooling or if we are simply getting to a point where water is necessary to get a improvement.
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 12:07   #6
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person a: bloody hell, I've just caried my 30 KG Computer upstairs...
person b: I told you, you should have bought an Aluminium Case.
person a: I did, but then I saw that new Scythe Cooler and coudn't resist.

Seriously though, those coolers might be good as a epeen expander, but if they will actually fit in a case is very questionable and with Certain coolers *cough* Thermalright *cough* getting pretty close to Watercooling it's questionable if there will be much of an improvement any more in Aircooling or if we are simply getting to a point where water is necessary to get a improvement.
Good point well made, I think Air Cooling also is sadly coming to an end in terms of the enthusiast area at least, home users will be happy with Air Cooled for ages to come yet.
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I don't think there's any reason for the average joe PC to be watercooled. Even some enthusiast PCs I struggle to believe really need watercooling sometimes.
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yup, water is a very nice e-peen tool, but with this aircooler even that last reason to go water falls away. Now the only real reason to watercool is that is just looks a whole lot better.

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That case looks quite nice
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That case looks quite nice
I don't like the look of the thing at the top behind the door - it looks like a row of 40mm fans

Did they say when the cooler might be released?

Edit: It looks like it will need a pole to hold it up!
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screw the cooler (my TR 120e works perfectly fine, and if i need better ill go water than putting that monster and snap my mobo), but the case looks pretty darn fine!
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I don't think there's any reason for the average joe PC to be watercooled. Even some enthusiast PCs I struggle to believe really need watercooling sometimes.
I wasnt really saying you have to watercool, but referring to the dimnishing returns that kick in at a certain point in aircooling which make aircooling not the best option after a certain point, yes, it could mean watercooling, but it could also mean that hw manufacturers should find a way to reduce the heat output of components.
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yup, water is a very nice e-peen tool, but with this aircooler even that last reason to go water falls away. .
Its actualy the way around. If I have the choice between this and a watercooler. Then Ii would absolutly go watercooled. This 'thing' will probably rip the socket right from the motherboard including a part of the motherboars itself. It then will fall onto your 'very expensive' videocard, and rip this right off by the part that sits into the pci-e socket. Or worse, make some nice sparks flying around in your case. And what about a simple change of memory? You cant get to it because this 'thing' is blocking the whole top part of the motherboard.

This 'thing' is so useless its not even funy...
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Ultimate HTPC cooler as far as i can see.. nothing less...
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Its actualy the way around. If I have the choice between this and a watercooler. Then Ii would absolutly go watercooled. This 'thing' will probably rip the socket right from the motherboard including a part of the motherboars itself. It then will fall onto your 'very expensive' videocard, and rip this right off by the part that sits into the pci-e socket. Or worse, make some nice sparks flying around in your case. And what about a simple change of memory? You cant get to it because this 'thing' is blocking the whole top part of the motherboard.

This 'thing' is so useless its not even funy...
I agree to almost all your statements, apart from the fact that this thing is not funny! I think this idiotic contraption is hilarious.

And umm may i remind you that anyone with enough of a brain to open the box and install will also have the sense to build something in the way of support. It's a cooler, not the stampede from Jumanji

That's one thing i do miss in this cooler: some sort of a bracket at the far end, so we have a point where we can support the weight other then the mobo.
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I dont know when the Orochi will be released, Scythe didn't say - more of "when it's ready".
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I was talking about this with some friends and we all agreed that a brace kit needs to be included to attach the cooler to the chassis. We also agreed that it needs more fin surface area to justify its sheer volume.
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people talk of these things being heavy, look at them, copper piping with extremely thin al sheeting to help disopate the heat. For that to be heavy you'd have to have trouble lifting your own mouse and i mean, how much of a stereotypical geek are you? if that is the case, get out side and do some exercise or some/a pressup in your room ffs.

My thoughts arent just plucked out of the air on this one, i own a scythe infinity, currently their biggest in the range and if that managed to break my mobo, i wouldnt be calling scythe, i'd be onto asus for selling me some piece 'o' crap mobo with no structural strength to be heard of.

I like the idea of the new heatsink, although it will only serve to create a better mean temp imo, as someone mentioned, current air heatsinks are that good. It would be like having 50 rads in a watercooling loop rather than 3 with fans, the idle wont stand to change much, but the load temps will probably only change by a degree. Furthering that line of thinking, with the green theme everywhere and processors becoming more efficient and less power hungry, even oc'ed cores, the need for such a massive sink is becoming less improtant.

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No, the fault is squarely on yourself, you overloaded your motherboard. A mobo is only a thin piece of plastic, you can't expect to put anything too heavy on this (and weighing in at 1kg this is incredibly heavy for a regular CPU heatsink). That's why things like the zalman superflower coolers said that to transport the case you had to remove the cooler otherwise you risk damaging the mobo. The main problem with this is diminishing returns, you can get plenty of other coolers that weigh a fraction of the scythe and are much smaller but the cooling won't be much worse.
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Love the case, LOVE it.
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