TorrentSpy shuts its doors - bit-tech.net Forums

CardJoe · 1st Apr 2008, 15:20

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/04...ts_its_doors/1

BitTorrent search engine TorrentSpy has voluntarily shut up shop ahead of a court ruling that would force it to reveal personally identifiable information about its users.

chrisb2e9 · 1st Apr 2008, 15:33

sorry to see it happen. mainly becuase I hate the riaa/mipaa etc.

Lepermessiah · 1st Apr 2008, 15:36

Good, piracy is bad, what is sad are people like the guy above that think it is OK.

Darkedge · 1st Apr 2008, 15:49

piracy is bad but so is how the MPAA/RIAA are supposedly defending their clients rights - or more accurately keeping a bunch of lawyers in Limo's.
I support torrents in one way as they are changing the attitudes of the big ripoff merchants like the big 4 record labels and hopefully will kill DRM, or at least abusive DRM like Sony's rootkit or closing down peoples fair use rights.

Grasshopper · 1st Apr 2008, 15:56

I won't lie: I use illеgal software and there is no illigal software that I use, that I'll purshse if I can't get it for free. There are plenty of freeware on the net and I'm just too lazy to search for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lepermessiah

Good, piracy is bad, what is sad are people like the guy above that think it is OK.

Piracy is bad? Maybe, but not for me. I buy the software/movies/music I like and I think It worth the money and in fact I prefer to us legal software when I can, but I use many piaces of code I can't get where I live or cost a fortune (Vista Home Premium cost half a month sаlary here).

They won't stop piracy that way.

Firehed · 1st Apr 2008, 16:08

Um.. why on earth would torrent sites be keeping logs of downloaded files in the first place?

Buzzons · 1st Apr 2008, 16:10

sure it's not an april fools?

Eloquence · 1st Apr 2008, 16:13

Most webservers keep logs Firehed, be it basic access logs like the one used in Apache, or something more complex like statistical databases that log IP's and pages visited over long periods of time.

I for one am glad to see TorrentSpy go. There are plenty of other torrent sites out there, that are far better, and aren't riddled with javascript popups huge banner ads and other intrusive ads everywhere.

Cupboard · 1st Apr 2008, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Buzzons

sure it's not an april fools?

Well, it is after lunchtime

Good for them though, not bowing in to pressure. Even if you think what they do is wrong, you have to admire their effort/commitment to their "customers"

pendragon · 1st Apr 2008, 17:53

sigh..another one bites the dust ... yet another reason to familiarize yourself with the trusty RIAA Radar ...screw the RIAA and their tactics

.. vote with your wallet, folks

wharrad · 1st Apr 2008, 20:32

I don't usually post links, and given the date you can never be sure.... But if it is an April fools joke it's most definately slander...

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9362/So...ssets%20Seized

PS, sorry if it's old news

tech3312 · 1st Apr 2008, 20:44

in my opinion what's the point of them closing it down there just wasting millions of dollars closing one server down and more server is still on that are similar to torrentspy, and lastly a new server can just open up and be similar to torrentspy they should invest those money in police, and school cause lately police are not getting the respect they need and it pisses me off...

1ad7 · 1st Apr 2008, 22:45

Piracy is bad, but these people are being greedy. Most of the people I know only pirate things they plan on buying to try it out, the only exception was adobe products but now there are alot of free alternatives so in my circles piracy is down alot. I really have a great amount of respect for these guys at torrentspy, they had the courage to stand up for there word, and there users.Looks like to theses guys a privacy policy actually means something. I wish alot more people had the stuff to do things like that, it would be a better world for sure.
Major corporations cost most of the piracy dollars. There is a hospital system around here which I know 50% of there windows licenses and other software is pirated.... how is johnny Q downloading word to do homework hurting anyone?

Kierax · 1st Apr 2008, 23:31

Yup I agree 1ad7, I've seen and met people who just download to download, and they are a scurge of the internet, in my view.

adamc · 1st Apr 2008, 23:42

damn, i used torrentspy for my albums... had to get serj tankian's album off another site today

diasam · 2nd Apr 2008, 00:31

EDIT: Never mind.

LordPyrinc · 2nd Apr 2008, 00:58

Courageous? Falling on their sword? Yeah right... They know their number is up. Good or bad, they just are trying to make sure they don't loose any more money. They have already caught the attention of the MPAA and presumably had to spend $$ in lawyers fees for this particular case.

<Disclaimer> I don't agree with MPAA/RIAA tactics, all they are doing is filling a lot of lawyers pockets with money. </Disclaimer>

notatoad · 2nd Apr 2008, 01:17

not an april fools. first news about this came out yesterday.

Krikkit · 2nd Apr 2008, 01:30

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Originally Posted by LordPyrinc

Courageous? Falling on their sword? Yeah right... They know their number is up. Good or bad, they just are trying to make sure they don't loose any more money. They have already caught the attention of the MPAA and presumably had to spend $$ in lawyers fees for this particular case.

But they are also stopping the MPAA getting their filthy mitts on any server logs before they get seized.

War-Rasta · 2nd Apr 2008, 16:41

I really liked the site and found it really good. The search engine was particularly good and that was what made the difference for me. I l liked other sites such as The Pirate Bay but the search engine of it is just plain bad. It had a lot of pop ups and ads but i thought it was worth it.

I admire them for shutting down instead of handing over their log files. My ip would have shown up there quite often. It's not that i'm afraid of a lawsuit (nobody has gotten sued for downloading anything in my side of the world yet), it's that I seriously think the media conglomerates that are hunting people down left and right are just hurting the very people they make their money from. I download tons of albums, that doesn't mean I would buy every album I have downloaded if I couldn't get it for free, it just means I would have a lot less music to listen to and I would know a lot less bands even existed. It also means I would have bought a lot of CDs i initially thought would be good after having listened to 1 song on the radio or at a friend's house just to realize that was the only worthy song on the whole album. The opposite has happened to me too where i didn't really think much of a particular album 'till I downloaded it, heard how good it was and went to the store and bought it for the added value of having a hard copy and the cover art. That goes for movies and software too. I'm not gonna buy a piece of software I haven't tried or that i have only tried a crippled Demo version of . If I had a penny for every time I installed something on my computer thinking it was the greatest piece of code to ever come out of human fingers just realize I was just another buggy ugly looking windows app I would have a looooot of pennys.

To me and to lots of people i know, torrents (and p2p in general) are a way to test things and also get things that you could use but would not buy for one reason or another. You may say "Well if you wouldn't buy you shouldn't use it because you're not helping the minds that built it" and you do have a point there because I'm not giving them money directly. But if I download an album of a band I like I still go to the concerts. By downloading and having access the the music or the software in question I also spread the word to about it to the people I know. Some of those people buy it, some get it the same way I did but the circle has now expanded and those people tell other people and so on.

I'm not saying piracy is good, but at least it's not what all these corporations make it appear to be and there are definetly other ways to see things.

1st Apr 2008, 15:20	#1
CardJoe Player Character bit-tech Staff Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,988	TorrentSpy shuts its doors http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/04...ts_its_doors/1 BitTorrent search engine TorrentSpy has voluntarily shut up shop ahead of a court ruling that would force it to reveal personally identifiable information about its users. __________________ this is joe's non-bit-tech blog

1st Apr 2008, 15:33	#2
chrisb2e9 Dont do that... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,068	sorry to see it happen. mainly becuase I hate the riaa/mipaa etc. __________________ attack life, it's going to kill you anyway. Long-term relationships are like urban tomatoes: they only grow under special conditions. - Prestidigitweeze Don't hold on to the reigns once you've fallen off the horse, your just going to get dragged to death - SNiiPE_DoGG

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Firehed Why not? I own a domain to match. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: An hour north of Boston Posts: 12,576	Um.. why on earth would torrent sites be keeping logs of downloaded files in the first place? __________________ hire me @ eric-stern.com - web developer and php ninja pics @ my smugmug :: Twitter @firehed :: blog @ firehed.net 40D\|580EXII\|285HV\|AB800\|70-200f/4LIS\|17-50f/2.8\|150f/2.8Macro\|50f/1.8 MacPro @ 8x2.8GHz, 10GB FBDDR2, 3TB HD :: MBP @ 2x2.2GHz, 4GB DDR2, 320GB HD

1st Apr 2008, 17:53	#10
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1st Apr 2008, 20:32	#11
wharrad Hypermodder Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Burford, Oxfordshire Posts: 866	I don't usually post links, and given the date you can never be sure.... But if it is an April fools joke it's most definately slander... http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9362/So...ssets%20Seized PS, sorry if it's old news __________________ Jimmy Carr - "It's easier to get forgiveness than permission"

1st Apr 2008, 15:36	#3
Lepermessiah Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 566	Good, piracy is bad, what is sad are people like the guy above that think it is OK.

1st Apr 2008, 15:49	#4
Darkedge Supermodder Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: UK Posts: 334	piracy is bad but so is how the MPAA/RIAA are supposedly defending their clients rights - or more accurately keeping a bunch of lawyers in Limo's. I support torrents in one way as they are changing the attitudes of the big ripoff merchants like the big 4 record labels and hopefully will kill DRM, or at least abusive DRM like Sony's rootkit or closing down peoples fair use rights.

1st Apr 2008, 16:10	#7
Buzzons Mod Master Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,086	sure it's not an april fools?

1st Apr 2008, 16:13	#8
Eloquence The cake is a lie! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24	Most webservers keep logs Firehed, be it basic access logs like the one used in Apache, or something more complex like statistical databases that log IP's and pages visited over long periods of time. I for one am glad to see TorrentSpy go. There are plenty of other torrent sites out there, that are far better, and aren't riddled with javascript popups huge banner ads and other intrusive ads everywhere.

1st Apr 2008, 20:44	#12
tech3312 Where's my dremel o.0 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hialeah Posts: 177	in my opinion what's the point of them closing it down there just wasting millions of dollars closing one server down and more server is still on that are similar to torrentspy, and lastly a new server can just open up and be similar to torrentspy they should invest those money in police, and school cause lately police are not getting the respect they need and it pisses me off...

1st Apr 2008, 22:45	#13
1ad7 Multimodder Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas, United States Posts: 190	Piracy is bad, but these people are being greedy. Most of the people I know only pirate things they plan on buying to try it out, the only exception was adobe products but now there are alot of free alternatives so in my circles piracy is down alot. I really have a great amount of respect for these guys at torrentspy, they had the courage to stand up for there word, and there users.Looks like to theses guys a privacy policy actually means something. I wish alot more people had the stuff to do things like that, it would be a better world for sure. Major corporations cost most of the piracy dollars. There is a hospital system around here which I know 50% of there windows licenses and other software is pirated.... how is johnny Q downloading word to do homework hurting anyone? __________________ E8500@ 4.3ghz on air->ASUS P5Q-E->4gb of OCZ DDR2 @1069-> 4890 @ 958 1080 ->ASUS Xonar D2->Win7 Ultimate 42" Polaroid LCD @ 1920x1080

1st Apr 2008, 23:31	#14
Kierax That Demo is a bloody SPY! Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 271	Yup I agree 1ad7, I've seen and met people who just download to download, and they are a scurge of the internet, in my view. __________________ due to death in the family i shall be back soon.

1st Apr 2008, 23:42	#15
adamc Modder Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 62	damn, i used torrentspy for my albums... had to get serj tankian's album off another site today

2nd Apr 2008, 00:31	#16
diasam What's a Dremel? Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 19	EDIT: Never mind.

2nd Apr 2008, 00:58	#17
LordPyrinc Legomaniac Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA Posts: 256	Courageous? Falling on their sword? Yeah right... They know their number is up. Good or bad, they just are trying to make sure they don't loose any more money. They have already caught the attention of the MPAA and presumably had to spend $$ in lawyers fees for this particular case. <Disclaimer> I don't agree with MPAA/RIAA tactics, all they are doing is filling a lot of lawyers pockets with money. </Disclaimer>

2nd Apr 2008, 01:17	#18
notatoad pretty fing wonderful Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: alberta, canada Special:very Posts: 3,180	not an april fools. first news about this came out yesterday. __________________ the old: gigabyte P35, e4300@2.8GHz, 4GB DDR3-1333, 8800gts 512, win7 the new: DFI M3H5 Jr, phenom 810, 4GB DDR-1600, OCZ Vertex, debian notatoad.net fdo eff

2nd Apr 2008, 16:41	#20
War-Rasta Supermodder Join Date: May 2002 Location: Santo Domingo, Dom. Rep. Posts: 380	I really liked the site and found it really good. The search engine was particularly good and that was what made the difference for me. I l liked other sites such as The Pirate Bay but the search engine of it is just plain bad. It had a lot of pop ups and ads but i thought it was worth it. I admire them for shutting down instead of handing over their log files. My ip would have shown up there quite often. It's not that i'm afraid of a lawsuit (nobody has gotten sued for downloading anything in my side of the world yet), it's that I seriously think the media conglomerates that are hunting people down left and right are just hurting the very people they make their money from. I download tons of albums, that doesn't mean I would buy every album I have downloaded if I couldn't get it for free, it just means I would have a lot less music to listen to and I would know a lot less bands even existed. It also means I would have bought a lot of CDs i initially thought would be good after having listened to 1 song on the radio or at a friend's house just to realize that was the only worthy song on the whole album. The opposite has happened to me too where i didn't really think much of a particular album 'till I downloaded it, heard how good it was and went to the store and bought it for the added value of having a hard copy and the cover art. That goes for movies and software too. I'm not gonna buy a piece of software I haven't tried or that i have only tried a crippled Demo version of . If I had a penny for every time I installed something on my computer thinking it was the greatest piece of code to ever come out of human fingers just realize I was just another buggy ugly looking windows app I would have a looooot of pennys. To me and to lots of people i know, torrents (and p2p in general) are a way to test things and also get things that you could use but would not buy for one reason or another. You may say "Well if you wouldn't buy you shouldn't use it because you're not helping the minds that built it" and you do have a point there because I'm not giving them money directly. But if I download an album of a band I like I still go to the concerts. By downloading and having access the the music or the software in question I also spread the word to about it to the people I know. Some of those people buy it, some get it the same way I did but the circle has now expanded and those people tell other people and so on. I'm not saying piracy is good, but at least it's not what all these corporations make it appear to be and there are definetly other ways to see things. __________________ Proud member of WarNet Inc. WarNet Rulez!!